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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169

    wsterdan said:

    Their last update said by the very end of July or in the month of August. I doubt very much they're just sitting on it, I'm sure they're trying their best to get it out as soon as they can, but they can't give it to us if it won't work at all.

    I'm sure we're close, just now quite yet...

    -- Walt Sterdan

    yes 

  • saksafridisaksafridi Posts: 0

    I just wasted 4 ours of my afternoon only to find out DAZ isnt compatible with Big Sur. Please let us know. 

  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,594

    DIM already received an update (as of today, version 1.4.0.80 that can run on macOS BigSur on BOTH Intel and Apple Silicon. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/382131/daz-install-manager-dim-1-4-0-80-now-available-updated/p1

    So I suppose we will see a first version of DAZ5 rather sooner than later

  • escrandallescrandall Posts: 487

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    DIM already received an update (as of today, version 1.4.0.80 that can run on macOS BigSur on BOTH Intel and Apple Silicon. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/382131/daz-install-manager-dim-1-4-0-80-now-available-updated/p1

    So I suppose we will see a first version of DAZ5 rather sooner than laterThat wa That 

    That was a surprise!  I only started checking in about once a month after the first of July..  Perhaps I'll increase the frequency now.  

     

     thanks!

  • DAZ_RawbDAZ_Rawb Posts: 817

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    DIM already received an update (as of today, version 1.4.0.80 that can run on macOS BigSur on BOTH Intel and Apple Silicon. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/382131/daz-install-manager-dim-1-4-0-80-now-available-updated/p1

    So I suppose we will see a first version of DAZ5 rather sooner than later

    Well, not quite: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/514751/daz-studio-5-preview-release-is-delayed-and-that-s-good-news

  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,594

    DAZ_Rawb said:

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    DIM already received an update (as of today, version 1.4.0.80 that can run on macOS BigSur on BOTH Intel and Apple Silicon. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/382131/daz-install-manager-dim-1-4-0-80-now-available-updated/p1

    So I suppose we will see a first version of DAZ5 rather sooner than later

    Well, not quite: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/514751/daz-studio-5-preview-release-is-delayed-and-that-s-good-news

    Thats not too bad either. I rather go with a 4.15.x version on BigSur that is somewhat reliable than just a DS 5 pre-beta. I do hope the developers get extra coffee and cookies laugh. 

  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 2,348
    edited August 2021

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    DAZ_Rawb said:

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    DIM already received an update (as of today, version 1.4.0.80 that can run on macOS BigSur on BOTH Intel and Apple Silicon. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/382131/daz-install-manager-dim-1-4-0-80-now-available-updated/p1

    So I suppose we will see a first version of DAZ5 rather sooner than later

    Well, not quite: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/514751/daz-studio-5-preview-release-is-delayed-and-that-s-good-news

    Thats not too bad either. I rather go with a 4.15.x version on BigSur that is somewhat reliable than just a DS 5 pre-beta. I do hope the developers get extra coffee and cookies laugh. 

    Exactly; while I had an Intel and an m1 Mac starnding by to start testing a pre-beta, I also had a non-Big Sur computer that I use to run D|S; people with only Big Sur computers would have been using a version of D|S that would likely have left them frustrated. DAZ made the right decision, and yes, extra cofffee and cookies at a mimimum!

    -- Walt Sterdan

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  • BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 1,371

    I like to install products into DS through DS itself by using the panel on the left that indicates the DAZ products, plus Poser Formats and DAZ Studio Formats. The Products are organized alphabetically. For example when I inspect the items listed under "S" I can pick the item I want to install. The uninstalled items are on the bottom of that location, while the installed items are located on the top of that location. 

    When I install an item that way, after it installs, its "location" in that pane shifts from the uninstalled items to the installed items towards the top immediately. In older versions of DS the newly installed items would remain where they were befor installation, until I click on the "Refresh" button. I found that more helpful for installing a number of items, and then copying them to "Categories."

    It would be great to see that option present in any new version of DS.

  • linkinbnulinkinbnu Posts: 18

    So.. this update is all about MAC and destroying script compatibilities? 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,905

    linkinbnu said:

    So.. this update is all about MAC and destroying script compatibilities? 

    Note that this isn't the just-released DS 4.15.0.25 public Build, which hasn't broken anything (at least by design, though some things do cause crashes on Mac M1 machines). With a 4.15.x.x branch that appears to resolve the Big Sur issue we may expect the timing and nature of the DS 5 releases to change, since the plan was for a pre-beta for Big Sur compatibility and that is not now needed.

  • RenhaRenha Posts: 12
    edited August 2021

    Noah LGP said:

    I hope dForce Shapeshifting Simulation will be added.

    What is "dForce Shapeshifting Simulation"? I've googled it and found basically only your message.

    Also, not in the pre-bera -- it is just to update the underlying structure, not to add or remove or fix or brake (intentionally, i mean) _any_ other features.

    Post edited by Renha on
  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 2,348
    edited August 2021

    Renha said:

    Noah LGP said:

    I hope dForce Shapeshifting Simulation will be added.

    What is "dForce Shapeshifting Simulation"? I've googled it and found basically only your message.

    Also, not in the pre-bera -- it is just to update the underlying structure, not to add or remove or fix or brake (intentionally, i mean) _any_ other features.

    The pre-beta for DAZ 5 was cancelled for now, this is just a regular beta for DAZ Studio 4.15...

    -- Walt

    Post edited by wsterdan on
  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    wsterdan said:

    Renha said:

    Noah LGP said:

    I hope dForce Shapeshifting Simulation will be added.

    What is "dForce Shapeshifting Simulation"? I've googled it and found basically only your message.

    Also, not in the pre-bera -- it is just to update the underlying structure, not to add or remove or fix or brake (intentionally, i mean) _any_ other features.

    The pre-beta for DAZ 5 was cancelled for now, this is just a regular beta for DAZ Studio 4.15...

    -- Walt

    Which means that the final version of DS 4 will include the changes made now - Good time to download the Current DS 4.15.02 installation files for safe keeping. 

  • angelolotitoangelolotito Posts: 0

    Is it officially safe now to upgrade to Mac OS Big Sur without causing problems to Daz and library-related files??

  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 2,348

    angelolotito said:

    Is it officially safe now to upgrade to Mac OS Big Sur without causing problems to Daz and library-related files??

    I can only speak for myself; with "DS 4.15.0.25 public Build", my Intel-based Big Sur machine was fine but my m1 crashed about 90% of the time due to shaders (I had 15 or 20 scene files I was working on that crashed on opening). With "DS 4.15.0.26 public Build", my m1 machine appears solid so far.

    -- Walt Sterdan 

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    angelolotito said:

    Is it officially safe now to upgrade to Mac OS Big Sur without causing problems to Daz and library-related files??

    It's a beta version that was not even meant to be... How comfortable are you hunting down possible problems and their causes? 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,905

    PerttiA said:

    angelolotito said:

    Is it officially safe now to upgrade to Mac OS Big Sur without causing problems to Daz and library-related files??

    It's a beta version that was not even meant to be... How comfortable are you hunting down possible problems and their causes? 

    It was not expected to be - but the work was done with input from Apple, and now it is possible.

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,146

    As a retired software/systems support guy, I say the dev team here needs a round of applause for this. This is very much a major accomplishment.

  • leemoon_c43b45a114leemoon_c43b45a114 Posts: 866

    namffuak said:

    As a retired software/systems support guy, I say the dev team here needs a round of applause for this. This is very much a major accomplishment.

    Also a retired software/systems support guy from the aerospace sector.  Kudos to the development team for this great accomplishment!

    Lee

     

  • inquireinquire Posts: 2,196
    edited August 2021

    +1 I wonder if there is any chance Apple will help the DAZ team add Metal GPU rendering to DAZ Studio?

    Post edited by inquire on
  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 2,348

    inquire said:

    +1 I wonder if there is any chance Apple will help the DAZ team add Metal GPU rendering to DAZ Studio?

    They might, if needed, but that probably won't be until DAZ Studio 5, I would guess.

    -- Walt

  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 2,348

    namffuak said:

    As a retired software/systems support guy, I say the dev team here needs a round of applause for this. This is very much a major accomplishment.

    I dunno, I ordered a new m1 iMac a few weeks ago expecting to not use it for any projects but just to test it to see if runs while waiting months for D|S 5 and instead, I get my iMac on Tuesday, have a beta that almost runs on the m1 hours later, and a short while later the shaders issue is fixed and now I'm stuck with a machine running perfectly. 

    I had months of whining all lined up and now all I have is a machine that's working perfectly.

    Hmmm, yeah, I guess you're right!

    Great job, guys, thanks so very, very much!

    -- Walt Sterdan

  • rafed_alwanirafed_alwani Posts: 26

    I am getting the error

    You do not have permission to open the application “DAZStudio”.

    I am running it on M1 Macbook air

    Any ideas on how to fix it?

  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 2,348
    edited August 2021

    You can try the suggestions here:

    https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/open-a-mac-app-from-an-unidentified-developer-mh40616/11.0/mac/11.0

    -- Walt Sterdan

    Post edited by wsterdan on
  • TotteTotte Posts: 13,970

    rafed_alwani said:

    I am getting the error

    You do not have permission to open the application “DAZStudio”.

    I am running it on M1 Macbook air

    Any ideas on how to fix it?

    First is that the 4.15.0.26 beta (which works) or the 4.15.0.x that doesn't?
    Second, to tell GateKeeper to trust the applciation, right click and select Open...  (If you do not have a two/tree button mouse CTRL-click).

  • rafed_alwanirafed_alwani Posts: 26
    edited August 2021

    Thank you for the reply. I believe it is not the beta version as the DC manager can not install it. Is there a way to install it manually?

    Totte said:

    rafed_alwani said:

    I am getting the error

    You do not have permission to open the application “DAZStudio”.

    I am running it on M1 Macbook air

    Any ideas on how to fix it?

    First is that the 4.15.0.26 beta (which works) or the 4.15.0.x that doesn't?
    Second, to tell GateKeeper to trust the applciation, right click and select Open...  (If you do not have a two/tree button mouse CTRL-click).

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 2,348

    You'll need to install the latest version of DIM:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/382131/daz-install-manager-dim-1-4-0-80-now-available-updated/p1

    And install the public beta from DIM.

    -- Walt

  • rafed_alwanirafed_alwani Posts: 26

    wsterdan said:

    You'll need to install the latest version of DIM:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/382131/daz-install-manager-dim-1-4-0-80-now-available-updated/p1

    And install the public beta from DIM.

    -- Walt

    It worked thank you very much

  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 2,348

    rafed_alwani said:

    wsterdan said:

    You'll need to install the latest version of DIM:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/382131/daz-install-manager-dim-1-4-0-80-now-available-updated/p1

    And install the public beta from DIM.

    -- Walt

    It worked thank you very much

    I'm glad you're up and running!

    -- Walt Sterdan 

  • mcorrmcorr Posts: 1,084

    Installed DIM ok, then Studio 4.15.02, but Iam getting the message:

    "You do not have permission to open the application “DAZStudio.app”.

     

    Not sure why it wouldsay this,unless this is not the beta (as Totte said). If that is the problem, how do I get a hold of the beta?

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