Genesis 8, Genesis 8.1, Victoria 8 compatibility questions
In the store I see items listed for G8 and G8.1; just for G8 and just for G8.1. Is there a compatibility issue there?
Also, V8 is a G8 figure, as I understand it- if an apparel item says 'G8' will it auto-fit V8? What about other characters based on V8?
So far I am having trouble with auto-fit for things like socks with pre-G8 figures, even though the item appears in the content window with 'context on'. Is this just life in DAZ world or am I missing something?
Also, if an item is listed as 'genesis' compatible, does that mean genesis zero/1, however that's counted, or does it mean 'all genesis figures'?
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Clothing items made for either G8 or G8.1 should be compatible with either figure, though occasionally one will pop up the autofit dialog.
V8 is a morph for G8, not a distinct figure. Not every item for G8F will fit every G8F morph perfectly, but the closer a morph is to the base figure (and V8's body is not that different from base G8F) the less likely it is to cause problems. Also, clothing makers will generally include corrective morphs for different figures.
Footwear is the hardest thing to fit across generations, so you're definitely best off finding something made for G8 if possible.
Genesis is the fifth generation of Daz's original figures, which is why the Genesis versions of Victoria, Michael etc. are Victoria 5, Michael 5, and so on. This continued with Genesis 2 (Victoria/Michael 6), and Genesis 3 (V/M7), before Daz finally converged the naming conventions for Genesis 8. If an item is compatible with "Genesis", that means the original Genesis, otherwise the item would specify which generation of Genesis it's made for/compatible with.
Thank you, that's very helpful.
I wasn't clear about one thing- I'm having trouble fitting socks that are listed as being 'for' the figure I'm trying to put them on, on pre-G8 figures. Most of them seem to be pretty seriously off, not just a little bit of poke-through.
So, for example, you're trying to put socks for G2F on a G2F?
what is the product in the store so maybe we could check it out if we have it.
Yes.
I'm not sure- some striped socks for G2F, I think, but I didn't take notes. I'm just trying to figure out the basics at this point.
Also, will facial expressions for G8.1F work properly on G8F? I need some expressions, and those are on sale...
The facial rigging is one of the main differences between 8 and 8.1, so I wouldn't expect expressions for 8.1 to work on 8. Also, while 8.1 is backward compatible with most 8 products (expressions being the most notable exception), 8 is not forward compatible with things made specifically for 8. As I said earlier, clothing for one should work on the other, but the same is not generally true of textures, expressions, scripts, etc.
The bones and rigging are the same, but the pose controls for compound expressions are different.
Does this mean they will work on the other model, but you need to apply them differently if the facial expression is not 'for' the model you're using?
If you've already got G8F, is it worthwhile to buy G8.1F?
Any pose that affects the expression controls from the Genesis 8 Expressions will fail to apply as their targets are not there. if you applied to Genesis 8, then used Edit>Figure>Bake To Transforms, and saved a Pose Preset I think that would work on 8.1.
Thank you.
You can get Genesis 8.1 simply by downloading and installing the updated Starter Essentials package if you havent already, it's free. Then if you're running one of the versions of DAZ that came out since 8.1 did, you can load a 8.1 default figure and apply the morph and materials from whichever 8.0 figure you want to use and have access to the new facial rigging and expressions. Maybe that is easier?
Yes! Thanks.