August 2022 - Daz 3D New User Challenge - Open Render Challenge

New User's Challenge - August 2022

Sponsored by DAZ 3D

Are you new to the 3D World? Are you at the beginning stages of learning 3D rendering? Have you been around for a little bit but feel you could benefit from some feedback or instruction? Have you been around awhile and would like to help other members start their creative journey? Well then come and join the fun as we host our newest render challenge.

New this year, we are breaking down each month into 2 different challenges. A Beginner Challenge and then also an Intermediate Challenge.

So which "Challenge" should you choose?

Follow the Beginner Challenge if you are:

  • New to the New User Challenges
  • New to Daz Studio
  • Newer to 3D Rendering in General

Follow the Intermediate Challenge if you have:

  • Participated in the New User Challenge for awhile
  • Know the basics of Daz Studio and would like to learn more in depth topics
  • Been using 3D Rendering Applications for awhile and feel comfortable with learning Intermediate Topics

 



"Open Render Challenge"

The Open Render Challenge is also referred to as a "free" month, where you can concentrate on using and combining the skills you learned in the past few challenges.
Please be sure to mention in which Open Render Challenge (Beginner or Intermediate) you wish to enter into when you add your image to the thread. 
 



If you would like to review the previous topics and information you can find the topics/threads here:

Beginner/IntermediateComposition/Instancing, & Duplication
Beginner/IntermediateLighting/Light Effects
Beginner/IntermediatePosing/Posing II
Beginner/IntermediateUsing Props/Push Modifiers/Deformers
Beginner/IntermediateScenes and Landscapes/Working Modularly
Beginner/IntermediatePortrait Rendering/LIE

I will be checking in as will the rest of the Community Volunteers to try and help with anything you all may need.
For a list of the current challenge rules, please see this thread: Challenge Rules
 


Closing Date: August 31st, 2022

Comments

  • Daedalus-7Daedalus-7 Posts: 168
    edited August 5

    As usual I'll open up the month :)

    Admittedly, this one drove me crazy to achieve the proper contrast & color balance in Photoshop but, eventually I (hopefully) got the inspiration on how to do it.

    Intermediate challange, rendered in Daz Studio/Iray.

    Summer in the city

     

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  • redbankmickredbankmick Posts: 27

    Intermediate Challenge. This was created for an illustrated story I am creating and the biggest challenge was trying to light it. I wanted a noir-ish vibe and an image that intrigued the reader while also suggesting a story. Rendered in DAZ.

     

  • Daedalus-7Daedalus-7 Posts: 168

    redbankmick said:

    Intermediate Challenge. This was created for an illustrated story I am creating and the biggest challenge was trying to light it. I wanted a noir-ish vibe and an image that intrigued the reader while also suggesting a story. Rendered in DAZ.

    I would like to make some observations about your render, so please take them as constructive criticism:

    1) The smiling girl: Something strange seems to be going on with her dress, both on her stomach, and her breast. 

    2) The girl in the dress: It seems strange to have such a pose in a moving vehicle. I think that it would look more natural if her hand, instead of being on her hip, would be on the metal bar in front of her.

    3) The guy with the hat: The hat seems that it could a bit of adjustment. Maybe consider removing it? It's up to you.

    4) The guy in front of the smiling girl: That grip looks incredibly uncomfortable. Just try doing it yourself. It almost feel like dislocating your shoulder. Consider the grip...with the thumbs up.

  • LinwellyLinwelly Posts: 5,365

    Daedalus-7 said:

    As usual I'll open up the month :)

    Admittedly, this one drove me crazy to achieve the proper contrast & color balance in Photoshop but, eventually I (hopefully) got the inspiration on how to do it.

    Intermediate challange, rendered in Daz Studio/Iray.

    Summer in the city

     

    great start here, I like the setting and the details, but I feel the light looks to artificial (now this could be summer in London or some other rainy / cloudy place but I think for the summer feeling a sunlight type of light would be good. if this is iray you want to adjust you light temperature a bit to the warmer tones. you could do it as well in tone mapping but personally I woudl advice using tonemapping as last option

  • Daedalus-7Daedalus-7 Posts: 168

    Linwelly said:

    Daedalus-7 said:

    As usual I'll open up the month :)

    Admittedly, this one drove me crazy to achieve the proper contrast & color balance in Photoshop but, eventually I (hopefully) got the inspiration on how to do it.

    Intermediate challange, rendered in Daz Studio/Iray.

    Summer in the city

     

    great start here, I like the setting and the details, but I feel the light looks to artificial (now this could be summer in London or some other rainy / cloudy place but I think for the summer feeling a sunlight type of light would be good. if this is iray you want to adjust you light temperature a bit to the warmer tones. you could do it as well in tone mapping but personally I woudl advice using tonemapping as last option

    Thanks a lot for the tips! I indeed had a bit of a hard time with the color balance and lights on this one. I'll try to make it a bit more...summery :)

  • Daedalus-7Daedalus-7 Posts: 168
    edited August 5

    Intermediate challange (1st entry), rendered in Daz Studio/Iray. I added a slight yellow/white tint as well as some brigthtness/contrast balancing.

    Hopefully, these changes make it better. At least, the cat looks 10% fluffier!

    Summer in the city

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 82,438

    How are you lighting the scene? I'd think sharper shadows would do a better job of saying "hot sun".

  • Daedalus-7Daedalus-7 Posts: 168
    edited August 5

    Richard Haseltine said:

    How are you lighting the scene? I'd think sharper shadows would do a better job of saying "hot sun".

    I am just using an HDRI, admittely, at this point, the easier thing would be to change the title. :)

    But, that's a really good point. I hadn't consider it. I'll try to change the "Environmental Light Resolution" for sharper shadows, then.

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  • redbankmickredbankmick Posts: 27

    Hey, Daedalus-7-- thanks for the feedback! You make a lot of good points. 

     

     

  • ElliandraElliandra Posts: 292

    Morning All!
    Love the renders so far!! I did notice a couple of things if you don't mind some suggestions:

    @Daedalus-7
    I actually like the bright lighting on the scene, but it is rendering in cooler tones.
    There is a lot of reflection on her legs that is causing some strange markings on her right leg
    The top of the dress is folding between and under the breasts, have you tried simulating it with dForce using a timeline animation?
    The details on the cat are getting lost with him posed fully sideways, I would suggest rotating him a little but towards the front edge of the step to make the details pop a little more.

    @redbankmick
    Nice moody feel to the render!
    The girl in the front is having issues with the dress, it may work better for you using a timeline simulation with dForce.
    I do agree with the arm pose on the gentleman in front of the first girl, it looks a little awkward.
    The lady in the back, I would suggest having her grab one of the metal poles with her right arm to have her interacting in the scene a little more.
    Also the rear lady's dress has some slight crumpling at the crotch and might need to have smoothing applied or increased to correct it.
     

  • tommyskypilottommyskypilot Posts: 117
    edited August 5

    Dawn Brings Safety

    Intermediate Challenge

    Dawn Brings Safety

    Thanks for looking. Comments are welcome.

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  • Daedalus-7Daedalus-7 Posts: 168
    edited August 5

    Elliandra said:

    Morning All!
    Love the renders so far!! I did notice a couple of things if you don't mind some suggestions:

    @Daedalus-7
    I actually like the bright lighting on the scene, but it is rendering in cooler tones.
    There is a lot of reflection on her legs that is causing some strange markings on her right leg
    The top of the dress is folding between and under the breasts, have you tried simulating it with dForce using a timeline animation?
    The details on the cat are getting lost with him posed fully sideways, I would suggest rotating him a little but towards the front edge of the step to make the details pop a little more.
     

    First of all, thanks a lot for all the tips!

    I was using a geoshell to give extra shine on the legs, I have disabled now certain parts that don't need to shine. 

    I also fixed the strange underbreast behaviour of the cloth by re-running dForce.

    I also moved the cat closer to the camera and rotated it, hopefully it's a bit more visible.

    Finally, I also used an HDRI with sharp shadows. Hopefully, now it looks better.

    Intermediate challange, rendered in Daz Studio/Iray.

    Summer in the city

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  • ShimrianShimrian Posts: 108
    edited August 5

    Hi @Daedalus-7, I really like your image (even the original post), but for some reason the shadows are confusing me. Where is the source of light? I feel like the light source is coming from the top left, but the shadows on the right stair hand railing seem to show a light source coming from the top right side. Other than that (and it could just be me), I like the stronger shadows. They make it look like it's a very sunny, summer day!

    @redbankmick - I agree with comments from @Daedalus-7 and @Elliandra. I don't have anything extra to add, but I'm looking forward to your next image. :-)

    @tommyskypilot - I really like your scene. The colours and lighting give it a nice mood. Small things that I noticed, 1) the leg looks like it is too far into the stomach area, 2) the mist edges look a little too round, like little dome tops. Can you make the edges softer or fade out more?

    Great job everyone!

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  • Daedalus-7Daedalus-7 Posts: 168
    edited August 6

    @Shimrian Thanks for the appreciation :)

    The light is coming from the sun (I am using just a skydome HDRI), and it's up and slightly right. The shadow on the left rail comes from the pot and the plant standing on top of it.

    And...yes, I agree that the sharper shadows make a big difference. 

    Post edited by Daedalus-7 on
  • ElliandraElliandra Posts: 292
    edited August 6

    Morning!

    Great renders!!

    @Daedalus-7
    The updated render looks great I am loving the new drape on the dress and the crisp shadows!!
    *Squees at the cute kitty*

    @TommySkyPilot
    Love the mood and atmosphere you have going on here! A couple of things jumped out at me:
    The fog as mentioned by Shimrian
    The spear sticking out of the ground has a "new" look to it, while the rest of the items in the scene look more aged. Maybe drop the specular on it or darken the color on it.
    On the Female there is something going on with the back of the hair like the details have sunken into the head or something like that.
    I also agree with the legs, but if you make the breasts a little bit smaller it should help with this without having to redo the pose.
     

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  • Alewis478Alewis478 Posts: 70

    Intermediate challenge

    "Checkmate"

    Bases are from Chess for Genesis 8

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  • Alewis478Alewis478 Posts: 70

     

    First of all, thanks a lot for all the tips!

    I was using a geoshell to give extra shine on the legs, I have disabled now certain parts that don't need to shine. 

    I also fixed the strange underbreast behaviour of the cloth by re-running dForce.

    I also moved the cat closer to the camera and rotated it, hopefully it's a bit more visible.

    Finally, I also used an HDRI with sharp shadows. Hopefully, now it looks better.

    Intermediate challange, rendered in Daz Studio/Iray.

    Summer in the city

     

     

    I really like the colors. Almost a water color effect. 

  • tommyskypilottommyskypilot Posts: 117
    edited August 7

    Dawn Brings Safety (2)

    Intermediate Challenge

    Thank you @Elliandra and @Shimrian for the observations. Sometimes it's difficult to remain objective after a few hours of working on an image. That's what I like about this communiity. So I made some adjustments.

    I liked the way the ground mist looked on the right side of the image and I wanted to keep that intact so, I made two renders, one with and one witihout the ground mist, layered them in PS and used simple masking to adjust the mist domes over by the equipment.

    This is a great place to learn and get feedback.

    Dawn Brings Safety

    Thanks for looking.

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  • DarkSoulDarkSoul Posts: 13

    Title: It's a Kind of Magic

    Intermediate challenge,
    -Portrait, lighting effects, duplication and instancing, posing II
     

    Pure Iray render. No postprocessing.

     

     

  • sueyasueya Posts: 756

    Here's my entry for the intermediate challenge

    I have altered the textures of the Girls' outfits

    Constructive feedback welcome

  • DarkSoulDarkSoul Posts: 13

    Try a different  camera angle instead of bird eyes view and use depth of field, use HDRI lighting in combination with scene lights, try using dynamic poses instead of static ones. Dforce simulation would also improve the clothing

    To see what I mean, check my entry: It's a kind of magic 

    sueya said:

    Here's my entry for the intermediate challenge

    I have altered the textures of the Girls' outfits

    Constructive feedback welcome

  • ElliandraElliandra Posts: 292

    Morning!!

    Gorgeous renders guys keep 'em coming!!!

    @TommySkyPilot
    The new render looks great! The adjustment to the fog in the background makes it feel cohesive across the scene!
    The adjustment to the hair looks great as well!

    @Darksoul
    Lovely render I really dig the magic effects and movement you have going on!
    Her eyes look like are looking at something other than what she is creating in her hand, maybe have them point down more so she appears to be looking at the summon?
    Her hair looks a tad stiff as well, I think it's because there is not enough separation at the ends of it like you would get with naturally moving hair. You can add dForce to non dForce hairs as well and use the dForce Cloth Engine, most require a custom weight map though. The results however are really, really nice once you have them nailed in! If you would like to know how to do this, let me know and I'll whip up a tutorial!

    @Sueya
    Lovely scene hun!
    I agree with the dForce on clothing, either that or double check to see if there are movement morphs for the skirts to pose them a little more
    For the posing, I would rotate them to be facing each other a little more, use the fingers grasp at a low setting on the front female's left hand and the back female's right hand to give them a more natural relaxed look. The front female also needs her feet bent down a little more, so they are flat on the floor with her boots.
    I like the crisp shadows on the figures, but they are not carrying down to the ground. Is that a background plane or a physical set in the scene?

  • aki3daki3d Posts: 53

    sueya said:

    Here's my entry for the intermediate challenge

    I have altered the textures of the Girls' outfits

    Constructive feedback welcome

    The first thing before rendering a scene should always be the question: what I wanna say, what is the story, what is the meaning.

    Than you can put the focus on the important things of the scene.

    You can do this with the perspektive, d.o.f.,lighting, expressions and gestures.

    I'm starting my criticism a little bit general, because many pictures here in the forum have basic difficulties and thinking about some basic rules can always help.

    Now a little bit more specific.
    If the story is, that two friends meet each other, than the question is, are they happy about it.

    If there are emotions, it's not possible to see them, because of the camera angle.

    Two faces but none of them is crearly visible. I could go on like this forever, but just you know what you wanna say with your picture.

    The point is, if there is a failor in the beginning the whole rest is meaningless.


    An example for a picture would be:
    One person is greating another one. the greeted person is happy about it. The happy person with the smile in her face would be my center of the picture. the other person I can show from behind or from the side.
    If the scene is outside, I would give the smiling Person sunlight in the face but a little bit from the side to get some interesting shadows. If the street has no importance for the scene, than use a shallow depth of field to put the attention of the viewer on the smiling face. It's always nice to have some reflective things in the background specially when the BG is not in focus. For example a window or some metall etc. If you work with human skin than a little reflective surface can make the difference between a flat and boring picture and something interesting to look at. A little Reflection in the eyes is one of the most important things in a picture with a human face.

    Gestures should look natural and if necessary dynamic. Shadows should never been seen as a simple result of existing light, but as something important to support the story. You can create contrast which is also used to lead the viewer to the important parts of the picture, for example the face.

    The point is, that if you respect some basic rules (and there are many more than the few I was talking about) than all your pictures become more interesting and not just one. 

     

     

  • Hello Everyone :- ) Here is my entry

    Title: The Competition 

    Beginner Challenge - I worked with Posing, Portrait Rendering, Lighting and Composition 

    Comments and critique are most definitely appreciated. I am also wondering if anyone knows of any specific tutorials that deal with how to light scenes that have multiple characters/multiple areas of focus. Thanks so much!

     

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