Deviantart AI Art Generator
IceCrMn
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looks like devaintart has released it's own Ai art generator.
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And they've also allowed everyone on dA to opt out of allowing AI to use learn from their images, according to a friend of mine that's on there.
I saw that option while uploading some AI art I created from another site.
Tried it…and found it very limited and (ironicly), even more restrictive with “prompt language”
than All of the others I have tried.
Also My AI gallery images are supposedly images are restricted from being used to train other AI’s
(not sure how that is enforced )
Along with Renderosity, D.A . have fully embraced AI for their online galleries.
I went from Zero to Forty two followers in the 48 hours since uploading my AI art to D.A.
How does it compare to Stable Diffusion? I have installed SD but have not yet produced anything of the quality I've seen on YouTube, etc., but then I have a lot to learn about how to use it. Out of interest I tried a similar text input on the DevArt site and the results were similar (and just as poor) as those I got from my tentative first steps with SD. At least I can have unlimited tries for free on my home PC and am not restricted by a TOS imposed on a commercial site.
I do love the "opt out" option not being the default.
Even if artists do opt out, others will steal artists work, upload the pieces on their own pages, and the AI will still learn from stolen pieces. My dashboard has become littered with stolen artwork. The comments are flooded with, "You can at least give the original artist credit for taking their work" remarks.
It's definitely an internet thing where people say 'I'M LEAVING FOREVER' and slam the door and the next week they are complaining about something else.
I wouldn't know. I usually block or mute people like that, because I already deal with stuff like that IRL.
Besides, AIs can't learn nothing from me. My DS renders are too random and mundane, and my regular drawings confuse Google Lens.
Thanks for the info on the "opt out ' option, juist went and applied it since I have no interest in AI and don't want my work used for it either
DA just updated that the optout is now automatic to everyones art unless they choose to opt in - https://www.deviantart.com/team/journal/A-New-Directive-for-Opting-Out-of-AI-Datasets-934500371
And like the time people deleted their entire gallery/accounts when Eclipse was forced upon us all... *rolls eyes*
I'd give it a try, but I don't have the imagination for writing AI prompts.
DA now has "noai" option as default account setting. Based on the community feedback.
Anyway, 3d renders aren't really endagered by this.
Opt out after it has already been using your images.
It IS Stable Diffusion.
I signed in to try it and despite it saying I had 31 of 50 credits left (?) it wouldn't work from my iPad... maybe a glitch or it doesn't like iOS or Safari.
I'll keep using Hugging Face's Stable-Diffusion to generate dumb images.
The weird thing about D.A. is the I have made about 130 uploads of AI images since thursday this week..
somehow the site knows where I generated all of them and posts a creation credit to the website I used ..but ONLY on a few random images ( about 2 % of them)
the rest are given a copyright tag with my D.A. user name and the year….strange.
Is it opt out from the start or do you actually have to choose to opt out? Ok, after looking it seems that is on by default ijn your settings. Good for them.
Add the "noai" flag to all my deviations.
I have SD installed locally with the AUTOMATIC1111 webui branch plus have combined some different models via the webui.
Didn't even know that DA AI was a thing. Set to "noai" by default in my account settings.
I'm not convinced the "no ai" flag will do anything. Anything anyone has posted online will likely end up as somebody's ai fodder. It's the way of things. Scrapers scrape. They're not choosy and they're obviously not asking permission. It's likely your images are on imgur, pinterest, or any of a thousand other places and you don't know it. Even if you do know it, there's not always a lot you can do about it. It's all just internet whac-a-mole.
I think the making an AI gallery and tagging AI art automatically is a very good idea and helps split the categories.
I find it really aggravating with all the new AI art showing up in the Daz gallery for example and not being tagged as AI art; not because I don't like AI art (I do, it's fun) but because it can create the wrong idea of what Daz Studio does, and most of what is in the Daz Gallery is 3D art- it's kind of where people go to see "what can Daz Studio do these days" and "what is the program/Daz figures capable of in the recent iterations"? so when it's full of untagged AI art and I see people making comments like "oh wow how long did that take" and "what hair is that" or something (and it's clearly AI art to those who have used AI generators and know the signs) it's misrepresenting the art and misleading viewers.
I love seeing AI art and view it as another tool set- but its just smart for galleries to set up tags and subgalleries for AI art to stand on its own.
Tried it, Feel very uncomfortable to take any credit for the output results. Atleast with 3D you had to work at the lighting and the posing and the kitbashing to get something work out. With these outputs, a few choice words as prompts, and you get a random output. There is no creative connection though. It's all very empty.
And have'nt seen this _ Thanx //
AI uses a pre-trained database that has been trained on thousands of images from the Internet. This training is no simple task, as it can take many GPUs and/or several weeks to process. I don't think you can simply add or remove images from the database after it has been trained. If that's true, how are they including or excluding specific artwork?
Databases get updated. AIs get retrained to new versions at intervals. The version in use has the images it has. They don't change without retraining - At least that's my understanding of it.
I'm just saying Stable Diffusion's database, the one trained with with 2-5 billion images from the Internet, is already made and won't get retrained. Deviantart has no control over it. They only have control over the databases they train themselves.
If there is pure AI art please flag it as it should not be there. AI tools used to refine a render or to create elements placed in a render are fine, however.
@Richard, what if the render is pure AI but was originally sourced from Daz-Poser? I have a few pieces that were generated this way by feeding some of my old art I made with Daz models in Poser 8/up and Studio into Stable Diffusion, etc. just to see what the generator would make of it. Haven't posted any yet since other projects & all but I'm wondering if that's okay here? The ones in my gallery now all are mixed AI/other 2D work so I think they're all right unless the rules change. Just like to know before I accidentally get myself in trouble. ;-)
Oh, and I am always very clear as to the source of my work, be it Daz, Poser or whatever. In my Rendo gallery everything I've done with AI is marked as such. I have absolutely zero problems with Deviant Art or any other site that allows AI art insisting it be properly labelled. That way it's easier to find for those that want or avoid if it ain't your cuppa.
That would be up to the gallery team, but I would think - from the description - that it might count as using the AI for a form of post work in at least some cases.
Thanks. I consider it post-postwork, but in any case I'll check with whoever the gallery mod/person in charge is before uploading to be on the safe side. Assuming I ever get anything worthwhile out of it -- these are very old Poser-Daz pieces we're talking, stuff I did maybe 10-15 years ago if not longer. Michael 3 and David 3, fer gosh sake's. Ancient artifacts. ;-)
You are quite correct .
I dunno... I am torn about the AI thing.
I studied art in college (not major), took a lot of Art History Classess etc etc,
It all has affected the art I produce... I mean, really, doesn't some credit go to Frazzetta for every hulking muscle-bound sword wielder we make?
There is promo art in daz store that you could make a case is "heavily" influenced by Frank F's work... Yet I've never seen any credit given... And how about that Bikini Armor? I could swear I've seen it before (or awfully close) for sale here or other Daz Asset sites.... again, no credit.
It happens in literature too... Is there any work in Fantasy/Sci Fi that ISN"T Influenced by Tolkien, Lewis, Heinlein or Asimov?
You can't read Christopher Paolini's Eragon series and not say, "Yep, heavily influenced Tolkein"..
I can hear the Hate Train pulling into the station, so I'll close by saying that i believe AI Now/Today, is where MP3s were in 2002-2004 (and I am sure all the artist here have Legit music in their collections)... but anyway, Artist then were presented with a Paradigm shift, and the natural tendency is to push against it (Yea! for artist clinging to the status quo!).
It took a while before it became mainstream and a new cog in the wheel of the system, but those musical artist that were flexible and adapted kept on keeping on.
The AI genie is out of the bottle, and ain't going back