DAZ Studio to install on Most Recent Windows 11
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I'm going to have a new pc computer, which will come with Windows 11 installed. I watched some videos to get familiar with the new version, 11. I noted that in the most recent 'build' 22H2, that Windows 11 may install with S mode. S mode will not allow installation of 3rd parties, only apps and products from the MS apps store. I have been watching how to allow 3rd party, which of course, would include DAZ studio. Since I don't usually go there and fiddle with the innards, I am a bit anxious. Has anyone had their downloads not allowed, and or found a workaround? The purpose of this S mode is said to help old folks and children to not download all the junk that pops up. I do not know anything techy stuff, I rely upon my home computer guru, but he doesnt know about this. I am a user not a tinkerer but this seems like a huge issue.
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Windows 10 and Windows 11 in S mode FAQ - Microsoft Support
Switching out of S mode in Windows 11:
On your PC running Windows 11 in S mode, open Settings > System > Activation.
Find the Switch to Windows 11 Pro section, then select the Go to the Store link.
Note: Don't select the link under Upgrade your edition of Windows. That's a different process that will keep you in S mode.
On the page that appears in Microsoft Store (Switch out of S mode or a similar page), select the Get button. After you confirm this action, you'll be able to install apps from outside Microsoft Store.
@AgitatedRiot, wow, that looks a lot easier than CMD, regedit etc. Thank you so much for the help!
...is this standard with all versions or just the Home Edition?
It's not even standard with the Home Edition. I have Windows 11 Home, and I've never even head of this.
This is something that more budget oriented products are doing now. If you get a cheap laptop odds are it will have S mode. So there must be a lower cost for OEMs to install these versions. Since many buyers will not bother to turn off S mode, then all the apps those people download will be through the MS store, and you know what that means.
...ah, OK thanlks. I tend to build my own. So what about OEM DVDs, from say Newegg or Prime, are they set to S mode?
I believe it would have to legally disclose that if it does. But I don't think you can buy Windows in S mode at a customer level.
As far as I know, S mode is only found in certain prebuilds.
Microsoft is advertising S mode as being safer for customers. "Peace of mind". Ok, LOL. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/clp-computers-tablets/windows-10-s-mode/pcmcat1561578429803.c?id=pcmcat1561578429803
S mode is not totally new, there is a Windows 10 S mode, as that link shows.
I recently helped a friend get out of S mode, and it was just as easy as AR described. So not really a big deal, it is just MS trying to replicate that Apple garden, and at least MS doesn't lock the user in it.
,...so I should be OK purchasing a system builder OEM then. Going to have enough work ahead of me getting rid of all the telemetry and feature rubbish I don't need or want after install. Going with 11 Pro as it does offer more options.and I don't need an MS account.
I had to turn it off on my Dell Laptop. If your system comes installed from a major manufacturer, you might have S mode active.
Solved: Moving out of Windows S Mode - Dell Community
Oem Disk install will ask if you want to download from other sources. If you go 11, you will need an account; it's the first thing they want to set up.
Unless you go this route How to Install Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)
Another note if you buy the OEM disk from anybody but Microsoft, you'll have all kinds of problems with Microsoft support if you ever need it.
Oh, I forgot that your activated key is linked to your account.
Not just budget, unless my sense of the divisions is off - my father bought a new Lenovo laptop that didn't seem particularly budget to me (well over £500) and it was in S mode, threw me as I was trying to install things for him.
Mine is a Dell Inspriron 17. It was well over a grand US. It had S mode on.
One interesting new wrinkle that I found while installing a recent version of Windows 11 is that at some point during the install it insists on connecting to a network and there doesn't appear to be a way to skip past. This caused me to come to a dead stop as the drivers for my motherboard haven't been rolled into windows yet. A quick google showed that you can open a console window at that point and force an install with default options. As soon as I got to the desktop the motherboard installed some functional network drivers and asked if I wanted to download and install the manufacturer's motherboard software.
One benefit of an MS account is that it made transferring a licence to the new machine from one of my other PCs trivial.
This is why I posted this link How to Install Windows 11 Without a Microsoft Account | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com). Once you get into Windows, uninstall Onedrive from add and remove programs. You will get a notice from Windows security wanting you to sign in. Just dismiss them.
You could also use this if you are not familiar with all the Windows settings to stop most of the data Microshaft wants to track. O&O ShutUp10++ – Free antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11 (oo-software.com)
...but OEMs cannot be transferred to other machines, that only applies to the "retail" version. Also OEMs don't provide any MS support so no point in having an account. Also as I understand with Pro edition you can go through workgroups to avoid needing an MS account. Last thing I care to deal with is being spammed by MS for other software and apps I don't need.
I've been running W7 (OEM) for almost 12 years now and never needed to deal with MS support.
I use an OEM to install Windows 10. I went ahead and went to Win 11 free upgrade, I went and looked at my License, and it's in the Retail Channel.
...however that is on the same system as the W10 OEM was registered to, not a different system.
Yeah an OEM of 10 pro is a bit cheaper than 11 but I'd rather do a full clean install of 11 so I can remove as much rubbish I don't need as I can .ahead of time instead of go the online upgrade route.
My new system started with Windows 10 PRO OEM
My new system started with Windows. That's something else. You can install Windows 10 Pro cheaper. Upgrade to 11, then do a clean Install for 11. Wipe partitions and recreate them, then Format. If you want to do all the work, you can download it from Microsoft to put II on a thumb drive or make a DVD for Fresh Install.
Download Windows 11 (microsoft.com)
...like I mentioned I'll have a big enough task ahead of me just cleaning out all the "fluffware" I don't need before I start re-installing other software. With Windows7 abandoned by the side of the road like an old bald tyre, and the tread on W10 running thin (it has seen its last update), I find it better to just make the full leap to 11 directly from 7.and skip all the extra time messing around.
I have read that installing S mode is cheaper, and that is prompting the new push in the past couple years. If you look up cheap laptops at Best Buy or Walmart, S mode seems to becoming the norm rather than exception. Once you look below a certain dollar amount, it gets hard to find a prebuilt that is not in S mode, unless it is old and predates the push.
But it is not limited to budget products. The license is simply cheaper, so any prebuild company might choose to install S mode to save a buck even on higher end devices.
Now I cannot say that for certain it is cheaper, I've just heard that it is. But it is logical that MS would have to give the companies an incentive to install S mode, or they wouldn't bother with it. Most feedback I've seen hates S mode for one reason or another, so it doesn't make sense to me to ship S mode without compensation. MS has tiered pricing for Windows based on the device specs. This was the pricing guide in 2018, so this may be out of date, but it gives an idea. I would imagine that S mode is either slightly cheaper or required for certain tiers or specs.
≤ 11.6" (2-in-1/tablet)
≤ 17" (all-in-one)
≤ 500GB HD
AMD Ryzen 3/5/7
..on systems with Threadfrippers? Yikes. Glad I build my own. (based on a 5900X).
They might get a kickback to put them in S mode, so unexpecting users don't know better, so they can only buy from the Microsoft store, Instead of another store that has better utilities