Can't get G3F's naughty bits to work.

The problem: I load G3F base figure into DAZ Studio 4.8 (64Bit) on my Windows 10 PC. I then double click on the Genesis 3 Female Genitalia and it seems to load fine. The problem is that the original geometry that the genitalia geograft is supposed to hide is still showing and covering large parts of the grafted geometry. I get a patchwork of the textured base figure and parts of the grey geograft.

I have gone back to G2F and G2M and tried loading the geografts for these figures with the same result.

If I hide the base figure I can see the new geometry in all its, untextured, glory. If I hide the genitalia then the base figure is displayed as if I hadn't loaded anything.

Is this a bug? Am I missing some subtle setting or extra step?

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    It could be, you could try reporting it via the helpdesk, I've always found them to be great with helping out.

    It's possible that something is corrupted somewhere too; maybe try uninstalling Daz and other plug ins. I remember once haveing to delete the library as a third-party item was the issue, now I have seperate ones for differnet merchants: Daz, Renderosity etc. I also keep one for freebies. In addition I keep downloaded files for these issues too.

    So depending on how much stuff you have and how its organised will affect how easy it is to try deleteing your library; I'd try other stuff first though and see if others have any suggestions.

  • Are these the Daz Genesis 3 Female Genitals? Are they fitted to Genesis 3 Female? Are you applying the specific genital materials to the genital, not the main body texture (the G3F genitals are not a refit of the older Genesis/Genesis 2 Female set and don't take the body maps)?

  • Are these the Daz Genesis 3 Female Genitals? Are they fitted to Genesis 3 Female? Are you applying the specific genital materials to the genital, not the main body texture (the G3F genitals are not a refit of the older Genesis/Genesis 2 Female set and don't take the body maps)?

    I am, starting from a new scene, just loading the basic Genesis 3 Female from the 'Smart Content/Figures' tab and then adding the 'Genesis 3  Female Genitalia' by double-clicking it in the ''Smart Content/Anatomy' tab. I am not applying any materials other than the base one that is already applied the G3F. Both items are Daz originals.

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449

    The G3F Genitals don't seem to be made right, possibly the vertex don't match the figure exactly.  You can see this if you change to Wire Shaded.

  • IceCrMnIceCrMn Posts: 2,129

    I have gone back to G2F and G2M and tried loading the geografts for these figures with the same result.

    I got a dumb question :)

    Did you have the character selected in the scene tab?

    If you don't the geograft will load into the scene free standing, so to speak.

  • Are these the Daz Genesis 3 Female Genitals? Are they fitted to Genesis 3 Female? Are you applying the specific genital materials to the genital, not the main body texture (the G3F genitals are not a refit of the older Genesis/Genesis 2 Female set and don't take the body maps)?

    I am, starting from a new scene, just loading the basic Genesis 3 Female from the 'Smart Content/Figures' tab and then adding the 'Genesis 3  Female Genitalia' by double-clicking it in the ''Smart Content/Anatomy' tab. I am not applying any materials other than the base one that is already applied the G3F. Both items are Daz originals.

    I'm not seeing an issue here following those steps - the genital mesh is a clean, untextured block and hiding it leaves a holw in the base figure. If you installed manually try redownloading and reinstalling in case you are missing an update, though I can't recall this being an issue at any point.

  • icecrmn said:

    I got a dumb question :)

    Did you have the character selected in the scene tab?

    If you don't the geograft will load into the scene free standing, so to speak.

    The base character was selected. I did check.

    I'm not seeing an issue here following those steps - the genital mesh is a clean, untextured block and hiding it leaves a holw in the base figure. If you installed manually try redownloading and reinstalling in case you are missing an update, though I can't recall this being an issue at any point.

    I used the DAZ Install Manager to download and install everything. As far as I can tell, if set to 'Base' resolution, the two meshes match perfectly. It does seem to be a problem with my installation or a specific problem with my configuration.

    It is looking like I may have to reinstall DAZ Studio, If it comes down to reinstalling my content I will have a problem as I have nearly 600 items in my library. I am hoping the help desk will come up with some suggestions.

  • I doubt it's a reinstallation thing - except perhaps for those specific items (G3F and the G3F genitals). Reinstalling won't help with settings, and other content shouldn't be able to break GeoGrafting even if (for example) a morph was loading at a non-zero value.

  • I assume that when double clicking on the genitalia a script is executed that hides the required parts of the base mesh. I think that, on my system, that this script is either not running or is not working. Does anybody know what script is suposed to be and how I can replace it?

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,009

    Did you try some bourbon and soft music?


    Sorry, I had to.

     

  • IceCrMnIceCrMn Posts: 2,129

    If you put the graft on the wrong character you will get the result you are describing.

    Be sure you are using the correct graft.The grafts are specific to each character.G2F graft will only work on G2F.

     

    @WIll *giggle*

  • Did you try some bourbon and soft music?


    Sorry, I had to.

    G3F seems willing enough, it's the extra bits that are being prudish and they don't seem to respond to booze or music.

  • icecrmn said:

    If you put the graft on the wrong character you will get the result you are describing.

    Be sure you are using the correct graft.The grafts are specific to each character.G2F graft will only work on G2F.

     

    @WIll *giggle*

    I am doing the G3F Genitalia geograft to the G3F base figure and the G2F Genitalia on G2F base etc.(if that is what you mean).

    I have tried uninstalling DAZ Studio and G3F Genitalia and reinstalling them with no change.

  • IceCrMnIceCrMn Posts: 2,129

    What character specifically are you trying to get this to work on?

  • icecrmn said:

    What character specifically are you trying to get this to work on?

    Genesis 3.

    The help center asked me to uninstall the G3F and the Genitalia and then to reinstall them. I did this without changing anything. I am starting to suspect that installing to a directory other than User/.../My Library could have something to do with it. Does anybody else override the default library directory?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,781
    edited October 2015

    Yes, I am using a non-default content directory. Are you loading the Genesis 3 Female from \People\Genesis 3 Female and the genitals from \People\Genesis 3 Female\Anatomy under DAZ Studio Formats in the Content Library?

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • IceCrMnIceCrMn Posts: 2,129

    I'm using a non-default location for mine as well.

  • You might also check the locations by right-clicking on the thing you are loading in Smart Content and selecting Show in Content Library.

  • Yes, I am using a non-default content directory. Are you loading the Genesis 3 Female from \People\Genesis 3 Female and the genitals from \People\Genesis 3 Female\Anatomy under DAZ Studio Formats in the Content Library?

    It seems that that is not the problem either then. I am running out of ideas. I normaly load from the smart content but those are the paths the content loads from.

     

    Fortunatly I am getting a new laptop soon, so I will load DAZ studio up on that and see if it works. If it works then the problem is with my desktop. If not then the problem must be in my brain (or Windows 10).

     

  • FollyFolly Posts: 13

    Sorry for the really late response. Do you have the 'Node Weight Brush' or 'Geometry Editor' tool selected? Either of those will cause hidden geometry to show.

  • MoonTalkerMoonTalker Posts: 12
    edited October 2015
    Folly said:

    Sorry for the really late response. Do you have the 'Node Weight Brush' or 'Geometry Editor' tool selected? Either of those will cause hidden geometry to show.

    Good thought but no. I did work around the problem by using the geometry editor do delete the offending polygons, but this was too much effort and I assumed that the problem was with my system somehow.

    I have since loaded DAZ Studio onto my new laptop. So far I have tested it with only the G3F essentials and the genitalia components loaded. I works. I will now load the rest of my component library a bit at a time to see if it breaks and if so what broke it. If I can mount everything without problems then I will have to do a complete uninstall, delete and reinstall on my desktop.

    Feel sorry for me.

    UPDATE: I had another think about Folly's suggestion and went back to have a second look. It seems that my DS was defaulting to loading with the geometry editor active. I turned it off and now my desktop is working fine. I feel a complete idiot. How I didn't spot this when trying to use the geometry editor for a workaround I don't know. I just got into the habit of loading G3F then loading the genitalia without puting the cursor on the figure. As soon as I did it was obvious.

    Oh well King of the forum to Folly and i will stand in the corner with the conical hat on my head.

    Post edited by MoonTalker on
  • Folly said:

    Sorry for the really late response. Do you have the 'Node Weight Brush' or 'Geometry Editor' tool selected? Either of those will cause hidden geometry to show.

    Thank you so much Folly! I had the same problem.  Yes, just selecting another tool solved it.

    One should always search the forums before reinstalling all the stuff!

  • lolitojfr said:
    One should always search the forums before reinstalling all the stuff!

    Something to keep in mind; "reinstalling all the stuff" is almost never the proper solution, no matter what the problem. Either a program file is corrupted, in which case reinstall only D|S; or a single content item needs updating or has a corrupt file, in which case reinstall only that item; or the content settings are incorrect, in which case fix the settings — the content is installed properly but D|S doesn't know how to find it.

    Anything else not covered by that should be easily fixable by firing off a query to the forums here.

  • lolitojfr said:
    Folly said:

    Sorry for the really late response. Do you have the 'Node Weight Brush' or 'Geometry Editor' tool selected? Either of those will cause hidden geometry to show.

    Thank you so much Folly! I had the same problem.  Yes, just selecting another tool solved it.

    One should always search the forums before reinstalling all the stuff!

    I have to second this, this is the first time I've posted here but thank you so much! I was about to reinstall everything again, I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out what was going on! I really am glad I saw this

     

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