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MFD vs. MFD vs. MFD....

SethMSethM Posts: 65
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I am easily confused, so even if this is a very simple or stupid question, I'd love an answer. Maybe in crayon. Reading shader docs has melted what I used to use for a brain.

I have (and generally love) the V4 MFD and expansions. I am working up to the plunge from generation 4 characters to generation 6 (adding some G2F and G2M characters in as I go, using invisible G1 characters to position supersuit over M4, etc.) and can't tell what, if anything, the G2F MFD would offer me. I can fit the V4 MFD to G2F, but I haven't really played around with how that will work for posing. Does the G2F MFD work that much better with the extended abdomen rigging, for example? Should I spend the $6? Or less, if the expansions offer different value? Reading the lists of morphs  for the bazillion not-quite-variants of the MFD (G2F, Genesis, V4, V3, S3, G4, S4, ...) just confuses me more.

Sigh. Yes, sadly, I am--at 45--once again at a point in my life where I have to think this hard before committing $6. It would mean three $2 prop or outfit retextures I'd have to wait a month or two on.

Comments

  • srieschsriesch Posts: 4,241

    Is autofit really autofitting as expected?  It has often been my experience (using V4 to Genesis1) that long dresses do not autofit (it has dramatic texture distortion lower down), plus it sometimes clings to the breasts in an undesired way, in which case you might need the version actually designed to your figure

  • VhardamisVhardamis Posts: 576

    You are better off buying the G2 version of the MFD. 99% of the older MFD textures do work on it and you can transfer its bones to other skirts to help in posing them.

  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885

    Here, as an example: Red is V4 MFD autofit to G2F, Green is G2MFD

    Autofit zapped all the bones in the V4MFD, so I'd have to use transfer tools to get the the bones over correctly.  The G2MFD has upper and lower bones for Front, Back, Left and Right.  So not quite as many posing bones, but arguably more useful ones.

    MFD Demo.png
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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited October 2015

    ...one thing I noticed about autoifitting most dresses from V4 to G2F is that the texture map will "stretch" badly along the X axis in the centre panel of the skirt in when posing. I've tried to use the G2F dress smoothers, but they don't often tame this issue.  In a recent scene I did using the the Bunny Dazed dress on a G2F character, I ended up manually fittting, parenting, and adjusting the skirt so the texture wouldn't distort when posing.

    I've also seen this occur in the centre back panel as well.

    This seems to be an issue, particularly when a skirt has handles or morph targets like the MFD does..

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  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511

    I would get the MFD for the generation you are using, otherwise it's autofit trash pile stuff.

    If you are using G2F, get the G2F version. As others have said, its going to look better...Autofit for long dresses stinks, you don't want that hampering your render.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    Yep, have to echo the rest, get the G2 MFD, at least the dress and any add-ons that are long skirt type things (was there an add-on with a train overlay?  I thinks so..)  The $2 is was worth the lack of frustration and mangled mesh/stretched textures.  All textures made for the MDF work with all MDF's with the exception of the MDF for Stephanie 3, she was the odd one out, and it will be clearly marked on the product pages which ones those are (there's not many)

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    Fisty said:

    All textures made for the MDF work with all MDF's with the exception of the MDF for Stephanie 3, she was the odd one out, and it will be clearly marked on the product pages which ones those are (there's not many)

    And that includes all several hundred freebie texture sets for it...or maybe that's close to 1000.

  • UthgardUthgard Posts: 863
    Also, if the $6 are an (understable) issue, wait till it goes on sale. The PC anniversary is almost guaranteed to give a discount on the mfd--by itself, as part of a bundle or as a store wide discount.
  • DarkSpartanDarkSpartan Posts: 1,096

    Well, there's always the G3F MFD. New today and just $3...

    And like before, all the textures from previous iterations work, with the exception of those for Stephanie Petite.

  • SethMSethM Posts: 65

    Thank you all for the feedback. I guess I'll write up a purchase request to the CFO (Chief Female Officer approves all purchases over my limit in this household....)

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    Just show her this thread and tell her it will save your hair.  (It will)

  • DarkSpartanDarkSpartan Posts: 1,096
    Fisty said:

    Just show her this thread and tell her it will save your hair.  (It will)

    Might save some stripes in his backside too. One MFD with near-total texture compatibility is worth hundreds of other dresses if you don't mind brushing up your texturing skills. I know my wife was thrilled to hear about it, if only because potential spending will go down sharply.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    It's also probably the most cost effective item in the daz store, like mjc said there are hundreds of free textures available for it, some of the best live here: http://chohole.ovbi.org/chohole_home.htm

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943

    Or try here for textures:

    https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/MFD

     

  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 1,577

    Just in case anyone doesn't know, Stephanie Petite textures are not compatible. With anything.

  • RCTSpankyRCTSpanky Posts: 850

    The new dress follows all of Genesis3 Females poses without problems and poke throughs . It the best version of the dress that was ever made.

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