How to Get a Rag Doll Posing Effect With DAZ Figures?

Fauvist

When a person is standing or sitting and suddenly becomes unconscious (for whatever reason), their body collapses randomly.  Similarly, with a rag doll, if you throw it in a box of toys, it collapses randomly over whatever it lands on.  Does DAZ Studio have a way of achieving that posing effect with DAZ figures?  Or does some other software have the capability of making a DAZ figure fall randomly like a rag doll?
 

Thanks!

richardandtracy

Yes DAZ Studio does. It's the normal posing facility that is used by the person who wants to create the pose. When someone rag dolls, their bones remain intact inside their body, so all the usual poses and limits exist. It's just down to the judgement of the person doing the posing.

leemoon_c43b45a114

I would also love to have rag doll physics for the various Genesis figures.

One of the things I miss from my Poser days was the rag doll physics add-on.  I would use it to drop a figure into/onto something to get a pose that I could quickly make final adjustments to.  Especially useful for sitting or laying down poses.  Just drop the figure into a chair, sofa, bed, etc. then adjust the pose as/if needed.

Yep, I'm with Fauvist on this.  It does seem like all the pieces are there, just not in one product. :)

Lee

 

richardandtracy

And as a product isn't there, create the pose/poses by hand. Good judgement will help enormously.

leemoon_c43b45a114

I generally started with my figure posed roughly where I wanted, then elevated it slightly above the thing I wanted it to rest on/in. After running the rag doll utility, I would find the figure had a more settled/relaxed final pose that looked more natural without having to excessively tweak all the body parts.  Good judgement and a good utility do help enormously. :)

Lee

 

Fauvist

richardandtracy said:

Yes DAZ Studio does. It's the normal posing facility that is used by the person who wants to create the pose. When someone rag dolls, their bones remain intact inside their body, so all the usual poses and limits exist. It's just down to the judgement of the person doing the posing.

 When you are posing a battlefield of fallen soldiers, it's impossible to manually pose each figure so that it looks like it fell naturally.  I need software that recreacts the rag doll random fall with the push of a button, not by moving hundreds of limbs using sliders.

Fauvist

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

I would also love to have rag doll physics for the various Genesis figures.

One of the things I miss from my Poser days was the rag doll physics add-on.  I would use it to drop a figure into/onto something to get a pose that I could quickly make final adjustments to.  Especially useful for sitting or laying down poses.  Just drop the figure into a chair, sofa, bed, etc. then adjust the pose as/if needed.

Yep, I'm with Fauvist on this.  It does seem like all the pieces are there, just not in one product. :)

Lee

 

POSER has the ability to create a fallen rag doll pose?

Richard Haseltine

Fauvist said:

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

I would also love to have rag doll physics for the various Genesis figures.

One of the things I miss from my Poser days was the rag doll physics add-on.  I would use it to drop a figure into/onto something to get a pose that I could quickly make final adjustments to.  Especially useful for sitting or laying down poses.  Just drop the figure into a chair, sofa, bed, etc. then adjust the pose as/if needed.

Yep, I'm with Fauvist on this.  It does seem like all the pieces are there, just not in one product. :)

Lee

 

POSER has the ability to create a fallen rag doll pose?

Yes, though rag doll simulations are not always that realisitc themselves. But you would not be able to use it with most Daz figues.

leemoon_c43b45a114

Fauvist said:

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

I would also love to have rag doll physics for the various Genesis figures.

One of the things I miss from my Poser days was the rag doll physics add-on.  I would use it to drop a figure into/onto something to get a pose that I could quickly make final adjustments to.  Especially useful for sitting or laying down poses.  Just drop the figure into a chair, sofa, bed, etc. then adjust the pose as/if needed.

Yep, I'm with Fauvist on this.  It does seem like all the pieces are there, just not in one product. :)

Lee

 

POSER has the ability to create a fallen rag doll pose?

It did as an add-on.  The product is/was called PoserPhysics.  Don't know if it's still available or even working on newer versions of Poser.

Here's a youtube link showing what it can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMsXTqE5fTg 

Lee

 

Leana

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

Fauvist said:

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

I would also love to have rag doll physics for the various Genesis figures.

One of the things I miss from my Poser days was the rag doll physics add-on.  I would use it to drop a figure into/onto something to get a pose that I could quickly make final adjustments to.  Especially useful for sitting or laying down poses.  Just drop the figure into a chair, sofa, bed, etc. then adjust the pose as/if needed.

Yep, I'm with Fauvist on this.  It does seem like all the pieces are there, just not in one product. :)

Lee

 

POSER has the ability to create a fallen rag doll pose?

It did as an add-on.  The product is/was called PoserPhysics.  Don't know if it's still available or even working on newer versions of Poser.

Apparently it's still available as an open source project: https://bitbucket.org/PhysicalcSoftware/poserphysics/src/master/

richardandtracy

Fauvist said:

...

 When you are posing a battlefield of fallen soldiers, it's impossible to manually pose each figure so that it looks like it fell naturally.  I need software that recreacts the rag doll random fall with the push of a button, not by moving hundreds of limbs using sliders.

You are quite right. And it would have been extremely useful information to give in the initial question to limit the answers given.

Regards,

Richard 

WendyLuvsCatz

the Poser7 plugin results can be saved as pz2

I use those animated in DAZ studio 

if it's loaded and saved on Genesis 1 you can use it on Genesis 3 (and 8 with A position pose control adjustments)

or use Bone Minion etc

RobotHeadArt

Houdini could ragdoll a rigged figure.

https://www.sidefx.com/docs/houdini/character/kinefx/ragdoll.html

And for an army, there's ragdoll on crowds.

https://www.sidefx.com/docs/houdini/crowds/ragdoll.html

Cybersox

There's a tutorial here for doing ragdoll sims for G8.1 using Unreal https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/527856/tutorial-ue5-make-ragdoll-physics-for-g8-1-characters but the results can be a bit weird as Genesis figures don't hold their shape in the way that V4/M4 did.  Personally, I just have a large collection of hundreds of "dead/unconcious" poses  that I use, as there are several vendors who have done massive sets of them over the years, and then do minor tweaking using PowerPose/Puppeteer, etc.   

wolf359

Leana said:

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

Fauvist said:

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

I would also love to have rag doll physics for the various Genesis figures.

One of the things I miss from my Poser days was the rag doll physics add-on.  I would use it to drop a figure into/onto something to get a pose that I could quickly make final adjustments to.  Especially useful for sitting or laying down poses.  Just drop the figure into a chair, sofa, bed, etc. then adjust the pose as/if needed.

Yep, I'm with Fauvist on this.  It does seem like all the pieces are there, just not in one product. :)

Lee

 

POSER has the ability to create a fallen rag doll pose?

It did as an add-on.  The product is/was called PoserPhysics.  Don't know if it's still available or even working on newer versions of Poser.

Apparently it's still available as an open source project: https://bitbucket.org/PhysicalcSoftware/poserphysics/src/master/

 

I have been looking for this for over a year  THANK YOU !!!!!