Dain 9

vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,889
edited October 2023 in The Commons

I will say, I did not expect to see Dain again this generation.https://www.daz3d.com/dain-9-hd-pro-bundle

He does appear to have lost his chest hair this time through. And the Kingdom Come body art is ... unexpected. Quite.

Dain 9 does look rather surprisingly similar to Dain 8 ... although, according to the Measure Metrics data, he seems to have lost a full eight inches in height somewhere along the way.

And his alternate versions actually do seem to bring something alternative to the table -- I don't know how easy or difficult it would be to make those versions with existing morphs, but they're definitely different.

Pro bundle pricing isn't horrifying. Isn't cheap, but isn't bad for as much stuff is in it.

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  • alienareaalienarea Posts: 526

    He's short. With a large chest. Basically, a cube.

    ... the most realistic characters ...

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,614
    Nice to see Dain back in action. The 1950's Army outfit is nice addition to the catalogue. The bike is pretty nice too. But the price, whew!
  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,458

    A somewhat ordinary, not overly intelligent-looking face - like Dain 8. And that exaggerated trapezius muscle again! It distorts the proportions quite terribly, but is perhaps popular in the bodybuilding scene. 

    On the other hand, Daz learned quickly and this time also gave the age morphs to a male core character. And they look really good! That should actually be honoured - if you didn't have to buy the Pro Bundle for it. With all the military stuff (again! indecision) it is unfortunately uninteresting for me.

  • Already in my cart. 

  • sidsid Posts: 439

    The alt shapes look fun. Hope you guys can post some renders while I'm on holiday!

  • PancakePancake Posts: 69
    I want him but I can wait. The main draw for buying new to me has been the bundled interactive licenses which are missing this time round. By the time the next "all licenses for £5" sale comes round he'll be heavily discounted
  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,343
    The nice thing with Genesis 9 is that proportions are very easy to change, but I already own Dain 8 and I don't see anything here in the pro bundle that justifies me spending $125. It's all stuff I already have similar enough of that isn't an improvement on what's already in my library.
  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,173

    I had projects a month ago that used vintage military uniforms like each of those.  Always the way, right?  Will put together a test cart, but unfortunately I no longer have the token help.  The bundle is likely to be outside of my remaining budget, but I do still have my October PC coupon.  Bundle is a maybe.  If not, will get at least one of the uniforms separately.

  • The neck/traps area is so badly proportioned that he just doesn't even look human. And the shoulders are a mess, again. Seriously, I don't care how good the faces are... I can't imagine buying G9 figures when they look this weird in the bodies. I bought a lot of G9 at the outset and I look at every new one that gets released but the bodies are just such a mess, I can't do it. And Dain is not an improvement.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,363

    It is interesting how none of the three military uniforms released today actually state what era of history they are from, but are instead given neutral names and descriptions. This is despite the fact one looks inspired from WWII uniforms and another from the Napoleonic era. Of course that does mean if you seach for Napoleanic or WWII neither of these items will come up (unless DAZ have added some hidden meta data on the web pages).

    I suspect this is done so that we will not get the usual complaints that they are not historically accurate for one reason or another, but it seems a shame they can not describe them as they are.

     

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,343
    Havos said:

    It is interesting how none of the three military uniforms released today actually state what era of history they are from, but are instead given neutral names and descriptions. This is despite the fact one looks inspired from WWII uniforms and another from the Napoleonic era. Of course that does mean if you seach for Napoleanic or WWII neither of these items will come up (unless DAZ have added some hidden meta data on the web pages).

    I suspect this is done so that we will not get the usual complaints that they are not historically accurate for one reason or another, but it seems a shame they can not describe them as they are.

     

    They aren't very realistic, so it's easier to think of them as a costume version or creative interpretation of the idea of the uniforms.
  • CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,179
    No. Just no.
  • Who knows what's going on in the product artwork. The traps don't look like that.

    nope.jpg
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  • I like Dain okay, and his alternate shapes are great. But I'm not interested in enough of the pro bundle content to buy it. The only insta-buy for me was the 18th century military uniform. I grabbed that and it's textures.

  • tjcall_88c6a765f8tjcall_88c6a765f8 Posts: 39
    edited October 2023

    What happened to the nipples on the pro bundle fit alternate shape?

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  • ElorElor Posts: 1,518

    tjcall_88c6a765f8 said:

    What happened to the nipples on the pro bundle fit alternate shape?

    The third shape ?

    It's a Young Adult shape and the previous ones had no nipples too but were for feminine characters: the absence of nipples on the skin texture was hidden by a bra.

  • lou_harperlou_harper Posts: 1,163

    Damn, I don't have much use for the bundle, but the alt shapes, especially the creepy guy one are great.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,651

    The store seems to be in a groove with the type of male characters it's been releasing lately.

    I may get the pro simply because the cost is better for the few items I want, im undecided. I'm not hugely a fan of the under pec lines in genesis 9 that Dain has, or the limp looking dforce combat uniform. But the hairs look okay. Im still trying to decide.

  • morrisonmp said:

    The neck/traps area is so badly proportioned that he just doesn't even look human. And the shoulders are a mess, again. Seriously, I don't care how good the faces are... I can't imagine buying G9 figures when they look this weird in the bodies. I bought a lot of G9 at the outset and I look at every new one that gets released but the bodies are just such a mess, I can't do it. And Dain is not an improvement.

     I know several people who actually have very developed traps, more extreme than this. One of them doesn't work out at all. That's just how he's built.  I also have overdeveloped traps that make my shoulders look as if they're dropped, so to me this doesn't really look out of proportion. It's not uncommon in people whose jobs involve heavy lifting, especially overhead lifting. I see it a lot in furniture movers, for example. What I don't understand is why so many of the new characters have those "droopy" eyes. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with droopy eyes. My mother-in-law had them and all her children and grandchildren have her eyes. It's a common enough trait. But it seems like most new DAZ characters have this thing with the lower outer eye.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024
    edited October 2023

    I like the uniforms, they do look believable for someone like me (not a history or military expert) and the motorcycle is almost there. But the mechanical engineer/car hobbyist in me doesn't quite buy it. It does have features and design elements that could have been used in the 40's, but the creator has not understood how the front suspension works, why are the springs there? Where are the exhaust pipes and what are the two canisters in front of the cylinders and on the left side of the rear cylinder? What are the small pedals for, surely not for pedaling? The rims are missing the deeper section in the middle, how does one change the tires?.

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  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    I wish there was a way to make your own starter bundle. The infantry outfit, gentle stream hair, and demon outfit are stunning. I want them! I need photo realism or well executed fantasy. The motorcycle and combat outfit will work for graphic novels and comics and therefore will not work for me. Dain itself? Meh. Redundant to what I already have. Bundle is too expensive for what I want out of it, the items I want are too expensive individually, into the wishlist it goes. So yeah, hey Daz, figure out a way going forward to build your own starter bundle, no money from me today. Kudos to the PAs who made the three items mentioned above.
  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,131

    Not surprised at all that Dain 9 is a return product and as a better likeness this time.

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,400

    While I wasn't super enthusiastic, I got the Dain Pro Bundle down to $26.47 by putting alt textures and using 8 tokens, so, sure, why not.

    Dain 9 HD Pro Bundle

    $179.99 $26.47  

    With a cart total of $40.73

    I call it 'Library Building".

  • tjcall_88c6a765f8tjcall_88c6a765f8 Posts: 39
    edited October 2023

    Elor said:

    tjcall_88c6a765f8 said:

    What happened to the nipples on the pro bundle fit alternate shape?

    The third shape ?

    It's a Young Adult shape and the previous ones had no nipples too but were for feminine characters: the absence of nipples on the skin texture was hidden by a bra.

    The character doesn't look as young as the Young Teen Max character who has them. I was concerned that maybe the moprh was putting them in an incorrect location.

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  • Insta bought the pro bundle. Got it for the morphs. Dain is one of my favorite guys. I look forward to Brute and Holt 9. Especially if they have the other morphs like Dain does

  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,145
    edited October 2023
    Dain 9
    Famine Approaches
    Famine? If they're going for some kind of Four Horsemen theme, shouldn't Dain be called War? Bodybuilder, combat outfits, etc.

    The bundle does temporarily include an alternate shape called "Emaciated" for the first 30 days, but that will be vaulted on Nov. 17, so... Yeah. Strange way to market the character.

    Pancake said:
    The main draw for buying new to me has been the bundled interactive licenses which are missing this time round.
    The inclusion of the additional licenses has been a significant factor in my purchases of several recent bundles, too. The added value was an honest and attractive way to make purchasing on release more appealing. Much better than artificially scarce alternate shapes.
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  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 5,944

    doubledeviant said:

    Dain 9
    Famine Approaches

    Famine? If they're going for some kind of Four Horsemen theme, shouldn't Dain be called War? Bodybuilder, combat outfits, etc.


    The bundle does temporarily include an alternate shape called "Emaciated" for the first 30 days, but that will be vaulted on Nov. 17, so... Yeah. Strange way to market the character.

     Maybe the new world overlords told Daz to start the predictive programming now.

  • ElorElor Posts: 1,518
    edited October 2023

    tjcall_88c6a765f8 said:

    The character doesn't look as young as the Young Teen Max character who has them. I was concerned that maybe the moprh was putting them in an incorrect location.

    It's a PA product, not an 'numbered' character: all YA alternatives shapes I have don't have nipples on their YA skins textures (strangerly enough, Josie 9 does have them, so it's maybe a recent rule).

    An example with Mira 9 YA skin textures on Michael 9:

    Michael - Mira YA.jpg
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  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,889
    edited October 2023

    So I did end up getting the pro bundle. I used the Actor/Character presets to check out the different shapes. And ... has anyone noticed that the "emaciated" version isn't so much emaciated as kind of ... insanely ripped? Like, this guy has not had a carb in his long and evil life (that face was meant to be an evil wizard), but he has never EVER been what anyone would call undernourished.

    He does have scrawny legs. I'll give him that. His arms are kind of ... normal, really, for your average not-emaciated guy (if lacking a bit of muscle bulk compaired to main Dain). The rest of him ... guy works out. A LOT.

    I tried dialing out the Dain 9 Body slider but leaving the Dain 9 Emaciated body slider active. On the one hand, looked much more convincingly emaciated. On the other hand, grew breasts. So clearly, he's functioning as designed. It's just a somewhat odd design.

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  • sidsid Posts: 439
    edited October 2023

    vwrangler said:

    So I did end up getting the pro bundle. I used the Actor/Character presets to check out the different shapes. And ... has anyone noticed that the "emaciated" version isn't so much emaciated as kind of ... insanely ripped? Like, this guy has not had a carb in his long and evil life (that face was meant to be an evil wizard), but he has never EVER been what anyone would call undernourished.

    He does have scrawny legs. I'll give him that. His arms are kind of ... normal, really, for your average not-emaciated guy (if lacking a bit of muscle bulk compaired to main Dain). The rest of him ... guy works out. A LOT.

    I tried dialing out the Dain 9 Body slider but leaving the Dain 9 Emaciated body slider active. On the one hand, looked much more convincingly emaciated. On the other hand, grew breasts. So clearly, he's functioning as designed. It's just a somewhat odd design.

     

    I don't mind the sculpt but with that discriptor I would be expecting something a bit more like this, for sure!

     

    But I don't think Daz does ribs.

    Here are the four shapes together. I have some Dain 8 vs 9 comparisions rendering while I clean my arpartment for a rental inspection, will post soon.

     

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