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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,732

    Looking at today's new releases I spotted this (which jumped into my cart): https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-madame-bleu-outfit-for-genesis-9-feminine

    Not exactly what you're looking for but the dress has the puffy sleeves and a plunging neckline, and is meant to be used with an obi so a corset should work.

  • sidsid Posts: 439

    I do have MD still installed, so if you're deseprate enough to do the rigging/dforce I could probably make you the obj on Sunday.

    (Attached is 5 minutes with the modular shirt that comes with MD, just with the sleeves widened. I would still need to do the collar, lining, seams, work out the fabric weights, topology etc. You could use your own shaders to the material zones or I could add some textures with the obj. It's been on my todo list to work out how get MD stuff back into Daz for simulation (usually I export the pose and do the simulation in MD).)

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    sid said:

    Heh, you mention rigging an obj, and I'm like, well MD would be waaay easier....

    No worries. The only other thought was if you had https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-mi-two-piece-business-suit-for-genesis-8-and-81-males how far does the shirt open? Because your reference image looks like it has a dropped-shoulder seam, maybe you could expand the whole shirt, shrink the cuffs back to tight, then sim? I can't think of anything else high-quality with a collar. I have an openable unitard (deforce Union suit - I think my version is a freebie, not the one in the store) I can get to work like that with a clincher (timeline sim the corset/clincher 200% scale to 100% to pull in the shirt fabric), but it still has no nowhere near that much gather in the sleeve.

    Look foward to seeing if anyone else has a suggestion

    It doesn't look like that shirt has any open morphs beyond the first button. I'll have to take a look at other button down shirts...I know there's a bunch out there.  

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    nemesis10 said:

    This is so difficult since most of those attributes aren't medieval at all. This made me think of a few products at Renderosity: Dzheng's Poet set 1 & 2 or his Fazhion set 4.  You might be able to use morphs to open the shirt more or a little transparency and texture work would give more of that bare chest/Chippendale look. He also has a corset set in there.

    That's why I said fantasy, lol.

    Dzheng's sets were already mentioned above and sadly, there's not much to them. I'm looking for stitching detail, etc...and that is difficult/impossible to add with tiled shaders...unless one is good at making real textures specific to that uv. The clothing needs to be able to stand up next to a photoreal model. That's the problem with a lot of clothing out there...it's just dforce tubes with no real detail work, so it can look ultra fake. 

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited December 2023

    Leana said:

    MelissaGT said:

    sid said:

    MelissaGT said:

    Here is an example of exactly what I'm looking for just for reference - 

    Oh, I didn't see this until I posted. OK, more MD stuff but https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/d5Y8M/20-medieval-man-shirt-vol-01-video-tutorial (and https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/0elY7/5-medieval-men-s-belt-marvelous-designer-clo3d-zprj-fbx-obj)

    These are nice, but they don't come with materials. That is beyond my scope of expertise.  

    If they come from MD they must be UV-mapped, and using a cloth shader preset on them should work. One of them seems to be free so it might be worth a try.

    It is difficult/impossible to add stitching detail with tiled shaders. I have a few wonderful tiled shader sets (I collect Fabiana's as they are my favorite)...but if the starter outfit is missing stiching detail to pull in from a normal map, then the end product won't have stitches or any of that sort of detail...and then it looks off. From a distance, that's ok, but not up close. 

    I'll check out the free one, however.  

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited December 2023

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    would the top of this dress work?

    can hide bottom with geometry editor, or not

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-cb-avast-sea-clothing-set-for-genesis-8-and-genesis-81-females

    I have this and if I remember right, the top ends right under the boobs so it would be a bit too short. The corset I'm going to use will be an underbust style (but more of a waist cincher compared to the one pictured), so I'll need at least some shirt material on the torso.  

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited December 2023

    This shirt from Linday could work as well using the method described above to puff the sleeves and then pull the cuffs back in - 

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-wet-and-dry-boyfriend-shirt-dress-for-genesis-8-females

    I like Linday's clothing because it is typically super-detailed. 

    This one might be a winner. 

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,228
    edited December 2023

    MelissaGT said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    would the top of this dress work?

    can hide bottom with geometry editor, or not

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-cb-avast-sea-clothing-set-for-genesis-8-and-genesis-81-females

     

    I have this and if I remember right, the top ends right under the boobs so it would be a bit too short. The corset I'm going to use will be an underbust style (but more of a waist cincher compared to the one pictured), so I'll need at least some shirt material on the torso.  

    I didn't but tossed it into my wishlist after suggesting it here and just got it as my Advent calendar 2.99 item

    now I am going to try it on a muscley guy yes 

    update Maxx 

    I see what you mean about the shirt, did not realise all separate bits

    used shirt and corset with Corssican pants and boots

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,058
    edited December 2023

    ...never mind, thought you were looking for that particular outfit.

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,732

    Current flash sale reminded me of this set, which includes a nice shirt: https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-giuro-vendetta-hd-for-genesis-8

    The expansion pack has several different open morphs for the shirt: https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-giuro-vendetta-hd-expansion-pack

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    Leana said:

    Current flash sale reminded me of this set, which includes a nice shirt: https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-giuro-vendetta-hd-for-genesis-8

    The expansion pack has several different open morphs for the shirt: https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-giuro-vendetta-hd-expansion-pack

    I have this - I'll have to take a look to see how well it works with G9. Thanks! 

  • sunnyjeisunnyjei Posts: 502

    I'm invested- and curious with what you end up getting and how you end up using it :) Might have missed it but did anyone mention this one? It's open, has a collar, gen 8, and doesn't look too modern- not sure if it is what you are after though- good luck!

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-latin-dancer-outfit-for-genesis-8-males

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