Michelle for Michael 9, the new musketeer
Elor
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After Vick for Victoria, Michelle for Michael 9:
The bundle: https://www.daz3d.com/michelle-for-michael-9-bundle
The shapes and the feminine textures: https://www.daz3d.com/michael-9-hd-feminine-shape-add-on
I like the hairs with the hat and the victorian outfit. The musketeer outfit would be great without the missing half leg (and really great with an option for a flat footed boot, but it should not be too hard to replace the boots with other options in my library), but still look good overall.
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The bundle doesn't mention Michael 9, but the shapes product page mentions it as a requirement, so I suppose there is mistake on the bundle page.
Edit: same mistake on Vick for Victoria 9: no mention of Victoria 9 being required when it is very much required: someone ( @columbine if my memory is not failling me) did some tests and when Vick's shape was used, Victoria 9 morphs were dialed in. I edited my last message on the reporting thread to report both problems.
I would've been much more enthusiastic about the Musketeer outfit if the sword belt had a place for an actual... y'know... sword. It's like rigged toilet seats for warriors, I swear.
I loved that hat with the hair, though; it really fills the gap of realistic braids that are only one braid instead of two... would've loved it even more if there was an option for a longer length, but c'est la vie, I'll just keep waiting. Something will come along eventually.
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LOL. But yeah, that IS strange. The belt even has loops for scabbards on it. I guess the thought is that since a lot of swords come with scabbards, the user can just pop one on there and parent it, though I notice that the sword in this bundle does NOT come with a scabbard.
I really like Michelle. I like Michael 9's skin tone and had wanted a version without facial and body hair, and here I go. Michelle's body seems to land somewhere between Freja and "standard waif" in muscularity, which is great. I like Freja a lot but seem to recall not having a lot of success mixing her with smaller morphs.
I really like the character, even if some of the facial expressions look horrible again. But that's not because of Michelle. Why is it that such unfortunate expressions keep appearing in the promo pictures?
I like the bundle too, especially the hair. Why a Victorian (!!) lady of all people should walk around with an open skirt and her pants peeking out is beyond me (she would have been immediately imprisoned or taken to a lunatic asylum back then), but the outfit looks very well made - like everything by fjaa3d. I would love to have the boots (without the cuffs) 'for real'! ;-) Perhaps the term 'Victorian' was just used incorrectly here; this lovely outfit looks more like a 17th century pirate's.
It really is a nice outfit, but the missing trouser leg and the heels bothered me too. However, men also wore higher heels at the time of the musketeers. The height is almost correct; they were just thicker back then.
The trouser leg should have been more torn, then it would have been more believable. As it is, you have to use a different pair of tight trousers that fit into the boots.
Yeah, the missing leg looked like they were going more for some pirate look. Shame really, but I hopefully have pants from some other outfit that can replace it. I guess since this being a more fantasy leaning set explains the no flat footed boot option -- which should be standard by now, because any type of period clothing for me that represents actually footwear with a heel is just a waste of disc space. I like the Victorian Steampunk dress which comes off looking a lot more Victorian than much steampunk stuff does. Overall, the package is a buy for me; with the sale there is enough good stuff in there to spark the imagination and have me doing some rendering again after these last few months.
I dont get why the shape ifs for Michael 9? Why not just for G9 and be done with it just like the other G9 characters for sale.
If it's like Vick for Victoria 9, the shape was made with Michael 9's shape as a base (loading Vick will automatically dialed in Victoria 9's head and body morphs according to test done by @columbine).
why though ... it doesn;t make sense to me, other than getting us to buy G9 Vic or Mike if you hadn't previously. I guess its easier just to develop a shape vs. a character, but why reverse gender even? I'm not getting this.
An extremely quick preliminary test on Michael 9 Feminine.
Like Victoria 9 Masculine, if you really want to genderswap these two characters then the customized shapes are likely to improve upon, or at least be a better starting point than, anything you're going to get by trying to work slider magic on the original figures--in particular, they do a much better job than just tweaking Base Masculine and Base Feminine.
On the other hand, if you didn't particularly want to Rule 63 either Michael or Victoria, you can be excused for wondering what the point of either kit is.
A more serious thing about Michael 9 Feminine, though--buyer beware!--is that if you own Karmen, you basically already own Michael 9 Feminine.
Karmen's the one in the front.
I am not buying them either but I guess people rendering families may want brothers and sisters parents and adult offspring that look very similar as some do
Good to know I'm not the only one. Vick and Michelle are probably the most incomprehensible products I've seen come out of DAZ in years. Why on earth do you make masculine and feminine shapes for the opposite genders when they both use a UNISEX figure? Is this just because people can't be bothered to turn dials and mix a little bit of a feminine shape into a masculine one or vice versa?
I'm not super fond of these mixed figures. Bought the Victoria one and it required Vicky to be dialed in at 100 percent and it caused a problem every time I wanted to mix and match other male figures with him because it caused problems with whatever morph was used to flatten the chest. They should have just made a breastless male body. The body itself wasn't that different from the base male figure anyway.