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Nice render with a scene more complex than I would ever attempt. Maybe I should buy the new RTX 4070 Super with 12GB rather than spend the extra $200 for an RTX 4070ti Super with 16GB...
I'm sure this is going to sound stupid to anyone who knows anything about computers, but (assuming there is room) is it possible to have two different cards in the same rig? like for example a 3060 and a 3070 side by side? or would you just never want to do that even if it's possible? and if it is possible / a good idea, do you need anything else to make it stable?
Yes, it can be done. Both will endure performance hits. As for DAZ3D, it might be a huge problem
Yes, I currently have a 1660 Super and a 2080Ti - though really, i should probably remove the 1660 and add something more modern.
Edit: I am not sure about performance hits (for rendering) - the only real issue i am aware of is that generally adding a second card will slow the data bus, which would matter for gaming but would be very minor for rendering.
The case is a Cooler Master HAF XB EVO. It's basically a cube 15" dimensions. Yes there is plenty of room.
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A quick search of Amazon showed an RTX 3060 12GB for $289.99 and an RTX 4060 12GB for $319.99. The RTX 4060 uses less power and is much faster, why would you buy an RTX 3060?
As far as browsing and music only my laptop's limiting factor is not the GeForce GTX 1650 (uses shared system RAM) but the 8GB system RAM. Modern browsers are very fat if you habitually open scores of tabs you may, or may not, ever look at.
After a bit of deep thought, I’ve come to the conclusion I was totally wrong to suggest that any modern computer or a Galaxy S5 could handle 4K video.
In order for you to properly watch videos on your 4K television, you’re going to need at least two RTX 4090Ti cards, a Core i9, and 128 gigabytes of system RAM. This will enable the subpixel post processing necessary to get the most out of your quantum dots.
I know you’re budget-minded so probably either an Amazon AWS or Microsoft Azure contract should be adequate for preprocessing all of your video at lossless 16K and resample them down to 4K. That should save you money versus maintaining your own server farm and your own air conditioned building to keep them.
Of course no video is great without great sound. Except maybe silent videos... There should definitely be oxygen-free copper wire in your HDMI and power cables, and maybe you should consider magnetically shielding the room itself. And you’re going to need an amplifier with vacuum tubes. Seven of them if you want Dolby Atmos.
I recommend two 1000 watt power supplies each on a separate circuit on your breaker box with a Tesla Powerwall as a backup. That should meet the minimum power requirements for now.
Modern 4K TVs upscale lower resolutions and it's imperceptible to the eye not trained what to look for specifically, although one might 'feel' one picture is better than the other.
For playing 4K video on a 4K TV just buy an nVidia Shield for $200 and stream/attach a usb storage.
Sorry for the RTX 4060/ RTX 4070 8/12/16GB confusion. The only RTX 4060s I can find have only 8GB. It looks like Ron's choices are:
RTX 3060 12GB - ~ $300
RTX 3060ti 12GB - Mid $300s
RTX 4060ti 16GB - Mid $400s
RTX 4070 12GB - Mid $500s
THe RTX 4060ti is a good choice, as it uses less power than the 3060s, and is higher VRAM capacity makes it more "futureproof". Remember how DAZ IRay memory requirements have risen in the past few years?
Thanks, everyone, for your thoughtful replies. I won't spend any great amount in order to watch 4K video, I don't see the need to buy an nVidia Shield when I have built a multimedia computer for that purpose.
I've been ripping all my movies and TV shows, and chose to go for at least 1080p resolution. I've already purchased a 14TB Toshiba Enterprise drive. I will also buy a 4-bay external USB drive case. I plan to have a backup drive for every data drive.
I've been using a Nvidia Shield for streaming, which has a now ancient Maxwell based chip from 2015 in it. Maxwell is the 900 series. Not only is it old, but it is essentially a mobile chip, much smaller than desktop GPUs. A 3060 is complete and total overkill for streaming purposes and will handle every streaming task just fine. I can even remote play a video game in real time to a friend 200 miles away and they say it has a very good picture (meaning, he is playing the game on my computer with me. It shares my screen with him so we can enjoy a sort of couch coop experience like we did when we were kids.) This is big task. My big old 1080ti did not handle that particular task well because it didn't have all the CODEC support.
As for the 4060, sure it is faster. But it only has 8gb of VRAM. Is that going to be enough not just now, but for the future? The 3060 has a whopping 50% more VRAM than the 4060 does. It is sad that Nvidia went the way they did with memory, but that is how it is. This is something only the buyer can decide on. More speed or more memory? For me, even 12gb would be too low for a number of scenes I do, but that's me. For others 8gb might be just fine for everything they want. That is something a lot of people don't think about when they make these recommendations, they project what they want rather than what the user might want. Also, it's not like the 3060 is a firehose sucking down electricity. Most people are not going to notice or care about the difference in power draw. Even in Europe it would take a few years for the electricity cost to equal the difference in price between the 3060 and 4060. To me, power draw is not a factor in this range. However, it can make a difference if the cooler is crappy. It can be annoying if a cheap cooler sounds like a jet taking off while rendering, and some of the 3060s have really cheap coolers. It is good to look at some reviews for any particular model. You don't really need to look at performance metrics too much model to model, especially since most will be entirely focused on video games, just look at the reviewer's take on the cooling solution. This applies to any GPU, though. For long Iray renders, you don't want a crappy cooler that causes a card to run hot. It is worth noting that Iray tends to run a little cooler than demanding video games do. A little, but it is something. My 3060 will hit around 74C during Iray but can go over 84C playing a video game. It is a EVGA Black, which is a very basic cooler...so it can get a bit loud. My 3060 is much, much louder than my 3090, even though the 3090 uses much more power. That's because of the cooler. In fact, my 3090 also run a lot cooler, too.
But it really just comes down to the memory. The user has to determine if 8gb is going to be enough for them.
Wow, are you ripping at 4K? You must have almost exclusivel BR. I try to avoid those or at least buy the 'all formats' set on the rare occasions when I do buy anymore. I've ripped my thousand or so music CDs at 320 CBR 20 years ago and that took up not so much space. Llikewise, if you have mostly DVDs I calculated my 1000+ DVD collection could be ripped at native resolution and all fit on one 4TB SSD. DVDs are either 480i or 480p and upscale by the TV software just fine. Since I rarely watch any of them I have yet to rip them. Mostly just Christmas, Thanksgiving, Halloween specials and the Wizard of Oz is what I watch. Well that reason & remembering how much work it was ripping all my music CDs was. I'd just soon stream pre-70s content on the free streaming channels as spend time ripping a lot of movies advertisers conned me into buying that I really have no interest in watching. I gave a big lot of them to the GoodWill a decade ago but far from all of them.
The new video card would be for my multimedia computer. I would not use it for DAZ Studio.
I prefer to have my videos in 1080p or higher. I don't want low resolution.
You certainly don't need a high-end GPU for that.
Thank you, Richard.
Here's an update:
After much thought I decided to buy an external 4-bay USB hard drive encosure. I don't want to install more hard drives in my home-built Cooler Master case. It is too heavy to work on.
Eventually I will buy an nVidia Shield, and place that in my entertainment center. The nVidia Shield is just what I need. But I need to space out my purchases a bit.