Young Adult and Elder versions of Sophia 9

Lev_c

Is anyone able to answer if there are plans to do Young Adult and Elder morphs of Sophia 9? She's a gorgeous character, but I really appreciate these extra options, like Olympia and van Helsing had.

Ninefold

I love it when core characters come with older and younger versions and hope to see more of that. I'm all about what's going to make my library more versatile, and older and younger textures and morphs are more difficult for me to approximate with other stuff I own than a slimmer or more muscular version of a character is. 

Gordig

I haven't spent much time with G9 and have very few assets, so bear that in mind. Are the young/old morphs of figures full morphs, or additive morphs to the base figure? In other words, if you dialed say, young Mira on top of Sophia, would it make it look more like Mira, or just younger?

Lev_c

Gordig said:

I haven't spent much time with G9 and have very few assets, so bear that in mind. Are the young/old morphs of figures full morphs, or additive morphs to the base figure? In other words, if you dialed say, young Mira on top of Sophia, would it make it look more like Mira, or just younger?

 

Theyre supplementary morphs if that makes sense. They require the base morph to work, but they have a very specific look, so no the young adult Mira with Sophia wouldn't work. They also have young textures. It's a good product addon. More useful then the body shape morphs we've gotten so far (Which imo are kind of unnecessary as you can get a curvy look for example pretty easy without needing a specifically shaped morph) 

vwrangler

They seem to only do three alternate shapes per name-and-number character, and Sophia 9 already has an alternate shapes bundle that doesn't include younger/older options.

https://www.daz3d.com/sophia-9alt-shapes-bundle

That said, the only people who can answer that, if they will, would be Daz themselves, so you'd need to file a help ticket (sales, not tech support) to ask the question of the only ones who can tell you for certain if there are future plans for more shapes. https://bugs.daz3d.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

 

sid

You can apply the young and old morphs to other characters, sometimes takes a bit of tweaking. The older versions don't have their own materials, but the younger versions pretty much all do.

The alt shapes also have proportions sliders or individual proportions adjusted, so have a look which sliders are active when you load an alt shape so you can adjust the same ones on destination figure.

I took youth Olympia and Olympia Youth skin and applied to Sophia and worked pretty good for the face, but because of the subtractive nature of the morph the bust needed tweaking (grown up Olympia is very busty).

You might get different effects if you are mixing HD and non HD morphs 

OrangeFalcon

I think a better idea is to scrap the alternate shapes and just give us something else.  All these alternate shapes and ages can be morphed individually.  Between the two, I'll definitely say the age ones are better as they actually have key differences.  And with all that's out there-if you have one age/body morph you can apply it to them all.  If they want to do an alternate shape, do something like Tara, where it's, you know, actually something unique and has a theme.  Snow Queen was okay with the blue skin but the different ages look very strange to me; like old Genesis 8 models that weren't finished.

stelari

The alternate age shapes of other characters are definitely usable - as mentioned, they're additive/subtractive so you'd probably want to do some tweaking, but here's how Mira/Van Helsing/Karmen/Amelia (left to right) young shapes & materials look applied to Sophia with no tweaking.

OrangeFalcon

Yes-the alternate age shapes are the better of the two I mentioned. The morphs look different and can be applied to other models. 
I think we just have too much of the same. Either do something creative or forgo the additional shapes and give us a different asset.  There are so many possibilities and themes that can be used. 

Lev_c

Thanks for the info all, I was unaware the age morphs worked well with other characters - I guess the main issue is textures. I love the look of Sophia 9, with the freckles and other blemishes, so a younger version of those materials would be very advantageous, but I suspect I could get something workable my toning down or swapping out the normals for something softer looking.