What fandoms would YOU like to see? (springboarding from fan art discussion)

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  • eric suscheric susch Posts: 133

    Babylon 5

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,062
    edited May 17

    Eboshijaana said:

    The Dark Crystal, we already have pseudo-gelfling in the store.

    ...yes I have both of them.   Loved that film.  All we need are some Skeksis, Ancient Ones, and Land Striders.(really loved the look of those)

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,230

    and that thing Frank has as an Avatar

  • CricketCricket Posts: 460

    I second Kamen Rider. Also Cutie Honey and Judge Dredd.

  • TercelTercel Posts: 101

    There's no end of things I would like to see represented.  I see some movement in the Penny Dreadful direction and absolutely love that!  Sherlock Holmes I suspect would tie in there with that era so anything Sherlockian would get my money.  Offerings styled on book series would also be an instant buy for me - Little House on the Prarie,  Little Women, authors like Sarah J. Maas, Jack London, Shakespeare, Leigh Bardugo, the list goes on . . .  

  • PixelSploitingPixelSploiting Posts: 898
    edited May 17

    This:

      Yes, I have no good taste left in me so Bobby The Girlyman and his blue boys are my favorite chapter.

     

    I also ship him with Yvraine, so maybe The Aeldari too.

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  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,340

    Warhammer 40k is cool. It also owes a ton of debt to a lot of other IPs, ideas, influences, and more.

  • AgitatedRiotAgitatedRiot Posts: 4,437

    None whatsoever.

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,340

    AgitatedRiot said:

    None whatsoever.

    Look at some of the more recent kits and figures. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • ShimrianShimrian Posts: 533

    Cosmere...

  • EboshijaanaEboshijaana Posts: 505

    Obscure addition, but because you'd think they'd already exist;



    This specific coat, these specific gloves and that black belt to break the white of the coat.

    While there are similar coats, none of them play nice with any black belts and those flared gloves cannot be found anywhere.

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  • One of the things I've been slowly accumulating, but not finding very many of, is stuff in the look and the style of 2001: A Space Oddyssey, and of Space: 1999, but not specifically tied to either one.  Something that has that sort of late-60s to mid-70s impression of what the then near future would look like.  A bit of mid-century mixxed in with gleaming white walls with automatic sliding doors and with large windows showing outer space or the surface of the Moon.

    But, among other period-look stuff, I also want something looking about like the 1960s space-opera style of future, akin to the original Star Trek, but more generic... basically like the other space-adventure shows of the 1960s that had a similar sort of look.

    Also, I'd like to find something Art Deco but retro-future-hightech, partly inspired by Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" in its outlook and archetecture.  Some people call this Decopunk.

    Come to that, I've also seen a handful of things that look like a sort of present-day-as-if-designed-by-elves kind of design motif, and have grabbed a few of those.

    Yeah, I wanna hop between various retro-future sub-genres.

  • VenomisbeautyVenomisbeauty Posts: 109
    edited May 28
    Beverly Hills 90210, characters and obviously some 90s style oufits ;)
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  • ladywolf1ladywolf1 Posts: 123

    More military fandoms - modern specifically not "ultra scifi or old style ww themed" - stuff like resindent evil, callofduty, halo, gears of war.

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776

    PixelSploiting said:

    This:

      Yes, I have no good taste left in me so Bobby The Girlyman and his blue boys are my favorite chapter.

     

    I also ship him with Yvraine, so maybe The Aeldari too.

    If only gw was not so sue happy.

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776

    PixelSploiting said:

    This:

      Yes, I have no good taste left in me so Bobby The Girlyman and his blue boys are my favorite chapter.

     

    I also ship him with Yvraine, so maybe The Aeldari too.

    Oh, and that's Rowboat Girlyman.  :P

  • The Expanse.

  • GeorgehazeGeorgehaze Posts: 170

    Well, since you ask...

    You guys have recently done a Star Trek week, and a Battlestar Galactica week, and a Pirates of the Caribbean week, and at least one (maybe more) Star Wars week, and what I can only guess is a GI Joe week.... It goes on and on.

    But, considering that a new chapter just dropped into the Planet of the Apes film franchise (which did very well at the box-office, practically guaranteeing another one or two), I'm a little surprised that there hasn't been a corresponding entry along these lines for your themed offerings.

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,062
    edited June 1

    ...seems we have a Bladerunner week (well at least one item).

    https://www.daz3d.com/brs-spinner

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,072

    kyoto kid said:

    ...seems we have a Bladerunner week (well at least one item).

    https://www.daz3d.com/brs-spinner

    By that standard, it's also Altered Carbon week.

  • AntManAntMan Posts: 2,051

    Hello, As a PA I have a question. I am a huge SciFi fan and I made the Spinner more or less for fun. The new Editorial License allows me to offer it here at Daz so I figured let's see what happens. But while this thread seems to enjoy the idea there are others that are not so happy with these items. I like the idea of making art from popular stories but now I'm confused, is it worth doing or not. I have "FallOut" items I have made for fun, mostly the interior of the shelter and large vault door but are people into this idea or do I listen to the other thread where they seem to hate it????

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,072

    AntMan said:

    Hello, As a PA I have a question. I am a huge SciFi fan and I made the Spinner more or less for fun. The new Editorial License allows me to offer it here at Daz so I figured let's see what happens. But while this thread seems to enjoy the idea there are others that are not so happy with these items. I like the idea of making art from popular stories but now I'm confused, is it worth doing or not. I have "FallOut" items I have made for fun, mostly the interior of the shelter and large vault door but are people into this idea or do I listen to the other thread where they seem to hate it????

    Most people have interpreted the editorial license (reasonably, in my opinion, if not correctly) to mean that they can't make money off of anything made using items with such a license. For quite a lot of people, that means that there's no point to buying something with the license.

  • AntManAntMan Posts: 2,051

    Yes and no is my take. If you are selling your fan art and it's clearly fan art not using their logo and type trying to make it seem like Lucas Merch, then you are going to be fine. I have worked for Lucas for many years freelancing and everyone that I have asked has told me the same thing. If you are honoring the franchise you are not going to get a "stop and desist" order. They are not fans of Star Wars porn. Parody is covered by parody law and is legal so that covers that. The same is true for DC and to a lesser degree the other comics companies. I'm good friends with Mike Mignola and he is totally fine with HellBoy fan art. Don't publish a HellBoy comic as that is taking money out of his pocket. Fanfiction is fine, just don't try and publish it via a publishing house. They wouldn't let you anyway. Any StarTrek stuff that I have done professionally has been through book publishers so I have no idea what Paramount thinks but I get the impression it's the same as Lucas. Copyright is good for I think 70 years beyond the life of the creator than it's up for grabs by anyone. Fables and such. Mickey Mouse is now up for grabs. Disney has always gotten a reputation for taking people to court but it's mostly to protect the holsome nature they want to project. 

    Not sure if that is helpful to anyone but I thought I'd share what I have found to be the case with Fan Art.

     

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,059

    AntMan said:

    Hello, As a PA I have a question. I am a huge SciFi fan and I made the Spinner more or less for fun. The new Editorial License allows me to offer it here at Daz so I figured let's see what happens. But while this thread seems to enjoy the idea there are others that are not so happy with these items. I like the idea of making art from popular stories but now I'm confused, is it worth doing or not. I have "FallOut" items I have made for fun, mostly the interior of the shelter and large vault door but are people into this idea or do I listen to the other thread where they seem to hate it????

    I believe you're seeing the two halves of the user base looking the issue from the point of view of their own particular interests.  There is a large contingent who basically use DAZ assets primarily to create fan art and iems directed towards other fans (and yes, this includes those who occupy their time making renders that depict likenesses of popular celebrities), while on the other side is a large contingent who use DAZ assets as elements to create art that serves their own creative interests.  For this latter group having something that is clearly lifted directly from a well known franchise like Star Wars is generally pointless, as it's both a potential barrier to distributing/monetizing their creations, but also because, say, using something like a TIE fighter promenently in a space scene alongside other less easily placed items immediately shatters the notion of the resulting image being part of a unique and separate universe... like if you were watching a Godzilla movie and in one shot all of the miniature cars being tossed around clearly have the word TONKA painted on them.  There is, obvously, some grey zone where the two groups and their intents overlap, but with the overzealous attitude that some companies have towards potential trademark and copyright infringements, it's generally wiser for those who lean toward the more commercial applications of their work to avoid products that step too visibly over the line.        

    The point is the both sides have their reasons for what they want and prefer, and while it's unlikely that neither is ever likely to agree, it's obviously far easier for the fan art group to use products made for the non-fan universe, whereas the second group is unlikely to buy something that is made to cater to the interests of the first group.  That implies that, conversely, a product not aimed specifically at the fan art focus has a greater potential market in the end, overall.  Honestly, though, I think the main problem right now is that DAZ has handled this sudden change of policy poorly, and what should have been done was the creation of a seperate sub-store section devoted specifically to items that cross too closely over into fan-art specific markets so that siad items can be easily identified... because, after all, there have ALWAYS been products here that are pushing the edge when it comes to duplicating something or someone seen in a feature film or TV series, and many times those purchasing those items are doing so completely unware of that fact they are using the likeness of a movie set or TV starlet.        

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,072

    AntMan said:

    If you are honoring the franchise you are not going to get a "stop and desist" order. They are not fans of Star Wars porn. Parody is covered by parody law and is legal so that covers that.

    A) Your examples kind of work against each other. Star Wars porn is just as transformative as, if not more than, fan art of Star Wars, so theoretically porn should be just as acceptable as fan art; Star Wars porn arguably IS parody, so should be covered under the same exception. Fair Use isn't determined by whether the rights holder likes what you created.

    B) The letter of the law is only worth so much. Even winning a copyright battle would be financially ruinous to most people, so there's a strong incentive to simply not use items with an ambiguous legal status because it's not worth the risk.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,059
    edited June 1

    AntMan said:

    Yes and no is my take. If you are selling your fan art and it's clearly fan art not using their logo and type trying to make it seem like Lucas Merch, then you are going to be fine. I have worked for Lucas for many years freelancing and everyone that I have asked has told me the same thing. If you are honoring the franchise you are not going to get a "stop and desist" order. They are not fans of Star Wars porn. Parody is covered by parody law and is legal so that covers that. The same is true for DC and to a lesser degree the other comics companies. I'm good friends with Mike Mignola and he is totally fine with HellBoy fan art. Don't publish a HellBoy comic as that is taking money out of his pocket. Fanfiction is fine, just don't try and publish it via a publishing house. They wouldn't let you anyway. Any StarTrek stuff that I have done professionally has been through book publishers so I have no idea what Paramount thinks but I get the impression it's the same as Lucas. Copyright is good for I think 70 years beyond the life of the creator than it's up for grabs by anyone. Fables and such. Mickey Mouse is now up for grabs. Disney has always gotten a reputation for taking people to court but it's mostly to protect the holsome nature they want to project. 

    Not sure if that is helpful to anyone but I thought I'd share what I have found to be the case with Fan Art.

     

    First, what we are dealing with here is often is not copyright law, but Trademark law.  Trademark law is eternal, which is why the Edgar Rice Burroughs estate still holds firm control of the names of all the main Tarzan charaters and is how Paramount clawed the early episodes of Star Trek back from Public Domain when their copyrights were accidentally not renewed after Paramont's acquistion of the original producer of Star Trek, Desilu.  As a result, while majoprity of ERB's most significant books have slipped into the public domain, no one can make a movie of them while using the name Tarzan, Jane Porter, John Carter, Pellucidar, Opar, etc, without the approval of ERB INc.... and that costs money.  Ka-ching!  And even when the original creator didn't take the time to trademark portions of IP, owners can still execute quite a bit of power over a property by manipulating the application of related existing copyrights, hence the reason the A Conan Doyle estate continues to sue companies producing works based on Sherlock Holmes using the argument that "this is clearly based on the later books which are still under copyright protection."  That argument doesn't always work, but quite often it's far easier for those sued to settle with the Doyle estate rather than run a prolonged legal battle.  And here we come to Disney, who now own Lucasfilm and almost all rights to Star Wars.  Disney is well known for their habit of suing anyone and everyone for the least provocative of reasons, and for the literal army of lawyers they employ to overwhelm and financially exhaust their targets.  For example, Disney once sued the Academy Awards for having a woman dressed like Disney's Snow WhiteTM on an Oscars broadcast... there was no way that impacted Disney in any real way financially, but they felt it was better to take the black eye in publicity rather than portentially weaken the hold they had on a property that is otherwise completely in the Public Doman.  Likewise, Disney sues children's Daycare center for having handpainted Disney images on the wall without a license, because if they didn't, they could sell the rights to do similar paintings to other institutions.  And, of course, Disney has literally had Congress re-write exisiting copyright law in order to keep a stranglehold on their most prized IPS.  It doesn't matter what ANYONE at Lucasfilm tells you UNLESS the person you're dealing with is an actual IP attorney and the information was given to you as part of a binding legal agreement with full corporate approval.   Otherwise, if corporate Disney decides at some future point in time that something created by a fan artist isn't to their taste or is somehow damaging to their potential earnings, their army of lawyers will make sure that it disappears. Other companies may or may not be as aggressive, but as companies discover new ways to monetize IP properties, expect for what is considered "acceptable" to continue to shrink.   

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  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776

    AntMan said:

    Hello, As a PA I have a question. I am a huge SciFi fan and I made the Spinner more or less for fun. The new Editorial License allows me to offer it here at Daz so I figured let's see what happens. But while this thread seems to enjoy the idea there are others that are not so happy with these items. I like the idea of making art from popular stories but now I'm confused, is it worth doing or not. I have "FallOut" items I have made for fun, mostly the interior of the shelter and large vault door but are people into this idea or do I listen to the other thread where they seem to hate it????

    Me personally, I would be all over some Fallout stuff. Would love to find a pipboy 3000 MK IV  somewhere, only ever find the 3000 though. Fallout is the one  franchize that I would be all over  if they sold it here lol  I'm a sucker for vault suits.

  • AntManAntMan Posts: 2,051

    This has been a good exchange, thanks for everyones input and I hope everyone gets something out of it. It's important to share what we have all experienced so we can safe guard others from making our mistakes.

     

  • One Piece! There's lots of pirate stuff already that could be cross-promoted, and with the live action series and the anime both being super popular at the moment, the treasure is there, you just have to find it!

  • I like the sort of 1950s retro-future feel of the Fallout universe, and would love to see more stuff that's merely in the same vein as that sort of retro-future-1950s, since things inspired by Fallout can merely look like a futursticified 1950s without having to be directly modelled on things seen in the games or the TV show.  I suspect a lot of stuff that's in the same motif but isn't directly based on actual objects used in those would probably sell well as and of themselves, and wouldn't need an EL license.  Alongside it, you could also recreate actual items from the game and show, slap the EL on them, and the Fallout fan-art people would snap them up.

    I myself would buy the products that are merely futuristic-50s, since I'd likely use them in a general retro-future space-opera instead, mixed in with futuristic-60s and even futuristc-70s props.  Heck, sometimes I've tossed Steampunk items in there, such as some hand tools, to fill out a scene.

    So, yeah, I vote Aye on Fallout-inpsired props.

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