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  • fool said:

    I need to sign in because my configuration has changed nearly every other time too

    Are you using the beta that was just released to fix this issue?

    Yes but maybe thats why, maybe next time ok?

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,533

    In the defense of D|S: Open Fusion without any instructions ahead of time, and you might not be able to understand what to do, but that doesn't mean that it is uncomprehensive crap software... quite the opposite. Some things just require a little 'getting used to' before expecting them to sing without hurting your ears.

    D|S is quite the amazing tool and this whole DAZ Connect things seems to me to be, above and beyond anything else, a pretty kick ass move to make Smart Content much closer to living up to its name. I look forward to seeing it in action. But I use D|S as a separate tool, pretty much, rather than a Carrara work-along, except for those times when I'm just sending things into D|S from Carrara, which makes the whole connect issue mute.

    Just two cents

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    In the defense of D|S: Open Fusion without any instructions ahead of time, and you might not be able to understand what to do, but that doesn't mean that it is uncomprehensive crap software... quite the opposite. Some things just require a little 'getting used to' before expecting them to sing without hurting your ears.

    D|S is quite the amazing tool and this whole DAZ Connect things seems to me to be, above and beyond anything else, a pretty kick ass move to make Smart Content much closer to living up to its name. I look forward to seeing it in action. But I use D|S as a separate tool, pretty much, rather than a Carrara work-along, except for those times when I'm just sending things into D|S from Carrara, which makes the whole connect issue mute.

    Just two cents

    One word...Blender.

     

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,533
    edited February 2016

    mjc1016 wrote:

    One word...Blender.

    Right! I was going to type that instead of Fusion

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  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited February 2016
    fool said:
    fool said:

    I need to sign in because my configuration has changed nearly every other time too

    Are you using the beta that was just released to fix this issue?

    Yes but maybe thats why, maybe next time ok?

    Fixmypcmike,
    While I don't forsee any problems... who knows. Note that I have DS 4.9 Beta before DS4.9 Release I've not used neither since DS4.9 Release which is installed. I also have waiting to install in DIM a new update for DS 4.9 Beta after DS4.9 Release. I'm know reluctant to install it at all even though I don't bother with encrypted content and work offline only. I'd be very upset if I did install it, DS 4.9 Beta only to find I'd created problem(s). Am I being too paranoid?

    With my purchase of Carrara 8.5 Pro upgrade and V7 Pro pkg late last summer I started fnally learning DS in order to become a PA. I'm now in doubt of even this as I'd not want my own PA content "encrypted only". As long as it would also be available as DIM and Manual installation as well I would be ok with, I think, an encrypted *option*.

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  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    diomede said:
    I loaded the carpet in Studio.  I selected the carpet in the scene.

    I used File : send to Hexagon.

    Hexagon opens with the carpet opened.  I immediately used "save as" for the carpet and saved it in Carrara .car format (a save option in Hexagon).

    I repeated for one of the lamps, which I had applied a green preset to in Studio.

    I started Carrara.  I opened the carpet and the lamp natively from the .car files that I had passed through Hexagon.

    Textures appear correct as these things go.  As I said, this should work reasonably well for static props. A rigged figure like conforming clothes would probably not work this way, I think.

    Thanks for pointing out how to do this. Why there is no "send to Carrara" or "Save As .car" in Studio by now I've no idea.

  • 3DAGE3DAGE Posts: 3,311

    HI John :)

    You can load files from studio directly in to Carrara,.  and if you're predominantly working in DS "offline" (not using it to buy products, or to download / install encripted content)  ...and you're only using DIM to download your content,.

    I don't really see a huge issue at this point,. since only new content is being supplied as encripted for DS, and that content also sems to be available in Un-encrypted versions for download using DIM.or manual download and install.

    As far as making conforming clothing,. you can already use carrara to model items,. export as obj,. then use the "transfer utility" in Studio, to add the rigging from the figure, to make conforming clothing,. 

    Hope it helps :)

     

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited February 2016
    3DAGE said:

    HI John :)

    You can load files from studio directly in to Carrara,.  and if you're predominantly working in DS "offline" (not using it to buy products, or to download / install encripted content)  ...and you're only using DIM to download your content,.

    I don't really see a huge issue at this point,. since only new content is being supplied as encripted for DS, and that content also sems to be available in Un-encrypted versions for download using DIM.or manual download and install.

    As far as making conforming clothing,. you can already use carrara to model items,. export as obj,. then use the "transfer utility" in Studio, to add the rigging from the figure, to make conforming clothing,. 

    Hope it helps :)

    Thanks, you always help... I do work offline and only use DIM. While I did grab the 1st 3 encrypted only free files I'll likely never bother with using 4.9 to download them... time will tell.

    Please excuse me for being a bit unclear, my error... I meant that for those who did and will choose to purchase and download the encrypted only content. Also partially agree that "I don't really see a huge issue at this point". "Partially" because as more and more encrypted only content is released the more Studio will have a need for the options I mentioned. I don't forsee encrypted only to go away... again time will tell.

    I did know about creating content with Carrara but as a fairly new user to DS since 4.8 I'm not yet familiar with the transfer utility... that will hopefully change very soon. I've previously had DS 2.9 and up only for it's content to use in in Carrara 4 Pro and up as well as Poser.

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  • 3DAGE3DAGE Posts: 3,311

    I agree,. time will tell whether this is something which will stick, and be sellable to customers,.  or not,. there are other content suppiers,. and customers have a choice.

    I'm not a big DS user,. i use some functions,. and the transfer utility is one of the easiest things to use,. (It's all simple menu options)

    you can model your own items in carrara aroud the figure in the assembly room,. then eport that object,.

    Open DS,. load the figure you were using , load your object and use the transfer utility to auto rig your OBJ, by transferring the bones from the figure to the object to make conforming clothing,. Save that and load it in Carrara  just like any other content

    This makes Carrara less relant on purchased content, encoded or not.

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited February 2016
    3DAGE said:

    I'm not a big DS user,. i use some functions,. and the transfer utility is one of the easiest things to use,. (It's all simple menu options)

    you can model your own items in carrara aroud the figure in the assembly room,. then eport that object,.

    Open DS,. load the figure you were using , load your object and use the transfer utility to auto rig your OBJ, by transferring the bones from the figure to the object to make conforming clothing,. Save that and load it in Carrara  just like any other content

    This makes Carrara less relant on purchased content, encoded or not.

    Why thanks again,

    The transfer utility does sound easy peasy if I understand you correctly... In Carrara I only form the object around a DAZ figure, *not* bothering with creating bones in Carrara since the bones will get created in Studio for example from G2 or G3 with the transfer utility which take the bones from the figure, G2 or G3, and apply them to the figure automagically. Absolute piece of cake. :)  Note that in the case of G3 especially I would first export from DS as a simple object to load into Carrara. Actually it would also be best for other generations as well to save as objects in the default T pose to speed up loading into Carrara. Please correct me if I have misunderstood you.

    I did watch a video, by DAZ I believe, on youtube for creating a dress... however I don't think it continued on into Studio... from start to finish, so to speak. It didn't mention setting up material zones either... oh well.

    Thanks again :)

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,165
    edited February 2016

    The following thread has a lot of tutorials on creating content for genesis and genesis 2 figures. It includes a lot of information on the transfer utility. For modeling, the thread includes information on a variety of programs (hexagon, blender,...), including Carrara.

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/65357/the-male-content-creation-mutual-support-group-thread/p1

    One example of another general resource thread for creating content is here

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/14421/

    One example of a specific Blender-related tutorial is here.

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/939565/#Comment_939565

    One example of a hexagon-related tutorial is here

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/939745/#Comment_939745

    One example of a Carrara-related tutorial is here

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/941921/#Comment_941921

    A thread dedicated to using all of that genesis or genesis-2 related content in Carrara is here.

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/45361/best-practices-using-genesis-and-genesis-2-content-in-carrara/p1

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  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited February 2016
    diomede said:

    The following thread has a lot of tutorials on creating content for genesis and genesis 2 figures. It includes a lot of information on the transfer utility. For modeling, the thread includes information on a variety of programs (hexagon, blender,...), including Carrara.

    Wellll... I'll just take my off topic talk over there! :)  Seriously though... Thanks!  Looks like I will be spending some time in those 3 threads also.

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,050

    after my first attempt at downloading the encrypted file which made browsing the internets wofull I tried again...

    this time I just let it chug away... finally downloaded the ecrypted wish and once again DS49 crippled my browsing speeds..

    I have pretty fast internet.. fastest in my street anyways ... and this has happenned two times from two attempts..

    The only fix is shutting down and rebooting.. what is DAZ doing?

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    Stezza said:

    after my first attempt at downloading the encrypted file which made browsing the internets wofull I tried again...

    this time I just let it chug away... finally downloaded the ecrypted wish and once again DS49 crippled my browsing speeds..

    I have pretty fast internet.. fastest in my street anyways ... and this has happenned two times from two attempts..

    The only fix is shutting down and rebooting.. what is DAZ doing?

    As far as crippling your browsing speed I believe the oposite is true for your downloading speed is also crippled by browsing.

    Internet speed is the lowest for myself with ATT internet, not dial-up. That doesn't sound good for myself. Hope you have better luck after re-boot.

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,986
    Stezza said:

    after my first attempt at downloading the encrypted file which made browsing the internets wofull I tried again...

    this time I just let it chug away... finally downloaded the ecrypted wish and once again DS49 crippled my browsing speeds..

    I have pretty fast internet.. fastest in my street anyways ... and this has happenned two times from two attempts..

    The only fix is shutting down and rebooting.. what is DAZ doing?

    DAZ has picked yout out specially because you are no longer pc.... :)

     

  • MiloMilo Posts: 511

    I noticed the freebie today is also encryped only. 

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    Was there a freebie today?  I must have missed it

     

  • MiloMilo Posts: 511

    Well It may have not come out today, but it was the one I grabbed today http://www.daz3d.com/make-a-wish-props

  • chickenmanchickenman Posts: 1,202

    That was firday's

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited February 2016
    Milo said:

    Well It may have not come out today, but it was the one I grabbed today http://www.daz3d.com/make-a-wish-props

    chicken man is correct about the day. For a short time "Make A Wish Props" was listed as a PC+ Encrypted Only freebie which got removed from there rather quickly and changed to an Encrypted Only freebie to all. I chose not to grab it since I'm opposed to anything encrypted even when it's free. IMO free means free of encryption.

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,050

    I finally got it .... what a pain it was..

     

    wanted to try and see if I could get it into Carrara with textures... Failed miserably! no

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited February 2016
    Stezza said:

    I finally got it .... what a pain it was..

    wanted to try and see if I could get it into Carrara with textures... Failed miserably! no

    diomede did this the other day using send to Hexagon... see his instructions and final Carrara render in this thread on the 6th of this month... they are near the bottom of page 2.

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,050
    edited February 2016

    deleted double wierd post!

    even the speling is wong

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,050
    wgdjohn said:
    Stezza said:

    I finally got it .... what a pain it was..

    wanted to try and see if I could get it into Carrara with textures... Failed miserably! no

    diomede did this the other day using send to Hexagon... see his instructions and final Carrara render in this thread on the 6th of this month... they are near the bottom of page 2.

    yep.. did that

    still failed miserably crying

     

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634

    I'm no expert on flying carpets... never rode one before. :)

    Went back and looked at the render diomede made and it's similar to yours except of course his is lower light. Don't know what magic he worked to get the fringe at back to look so good... even in his I don't care for the carpet's texture for a number of reasons... I'd export the carpet as an obj file then pitch the texture and create my own texture file. 

  • RoygeeRoygee Posts: 2,247

    Being of a reasonably open mind and not wanting to knock until trying, I "purchased" the carpet and got Connect to work its magic, as per the promo video.  After close on an hour of "getting data" and "installing X of 139", it was finally ready.  What is with the 139 items?  There are only three in the scene!

    Anyhow, here are some renders - first, Daz Studio, iRay on CPU - 15.5 minutes, second Blender Cycles on CPU - 28 seconds, third Carrara internal - 2 seconds.  The exports from Studio were done using MCJ's plugin - everything done at default settings, with no effort to make "great" renders.

    If this is going to be the "normal" experience in getting Connect content, I'll give it a miss - don't see how Connect is going to stop piracy, though!  Unless the next step is to stop all exports from Studio and make it like Vegas?  :)

     

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  • RoygeeRoygee Posts: 2,247
    edited February 2016

    Being of a reasonably open mind and not wanting to knock until trying, I "purchased" the carpet and got Connect to work its magic, as per the promo video.  After close on an hour of "getting data" and "installing X of 139", it was finally ready.  What is with the 139 items?  There are only three in the scene!

    Anyhow, here are some renders - first, Daz Studio, iRay on CPU - 15.5 minutes, second Blender Cycles on CPU - 28 seconds, third Carrara internal - 2 seconds.  The exports from Studio were done using MCJ's plugin - everything done at default settings, with no effort to make "great" renders.

    If this is going to be the "normal" experience in getting Connect content, I'll give it a miss - don't see how Connect is going to stop piracy, though!  Unless the next step is to stop all exports from Studio and make it like Vegas?  :)

     

    Edit - sorry about the weird double posting - was not of my doing - the last one is the blender render:)

     

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,986
    Stezza said:

     

     

    Roygee said:

    Being of a reasonably open mind and not wanting to knock until trying, I "purchased" the carpet and got Connect to work its magic, as per the promo video.  After close on an hour of "getting data" and "installing X of 139", it was finally ready.  What is with the 139 items?  There are only three in the scene!

    Anyhow, here are some renders - first, Daz Studio, iRay on CPU - 15.5 minutes, second Blender Cycles on CPU - 28 seconds, third Carrara internal - 2 seconds.  The exports from Studio were done using MCJ's plugin - everything done at default settings, with no effort to make "great" renders.

    If this is going to be the "normal" experience in getting Connect content, I'll give it a miss - don't see how Connect is going to stop piracy, though!  Unless the next step is to stop all exports from Studio and make it like Vegas?  :)

     

    Edit - sorry about the weird double posting - was not of my doing - the last one is the blender render:)

     

    thanks Roy, it will stop people pirating the stuff because by the time they have downloaded it they could have modelled rigged and textured it themselves..... ;)

    do you need the latest daz studio before you can download it ? I almost 'purchased it' before i saw it was daz connect only

     

  • head wax said:
    Stezza said:

     

     

    Roygee said:

    Being of a reasonably open mind and not wanting to knock until trying, I "purchased" the carpet and got Connect to work its magic, as per the promo video.  After close on an hour of "getting data" and "installing X of 139", it was finally ready.  What is with the 139 items?  There are only three in the scene!

    Anyhow, here are some renders - first, Daz Studio, iRay on CPU - 15.5 minutes, second Blender Cycles on CPU - 28 seconds, third Carrara internal - 2 seconds.  The exports from Studio were done using MCJ's plugin - everything done at default settings, with no effort to make "great" renders.

    If this is going to be the "normal" experience in getting Connect content, I'll give it a miss - don't see how Connect is going to stop piracy, though!  Unless the next step is to stop all exports from Studio and make it like Vegas?  :)

     

    Edit - sorry about the weird double posting - was not of my doing - the last one is the blender render:)

     

    thanks Roy, it will stop people pirating the stuff because by the time they have downloaded it they could have modelled rigged and textured it themselves..... ;)

    do you need the latest daz studio before you can download it ? I almost 'purchased it' before i saw it was daz connect only

     

    good one yes

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited February 2016
    Roygee said:
    Anyhow, here are some renders - first, Daz Studio, iRay on CPU - 15.5 minutes, second Blender Cycles on CPU - 28 seconds, third Carrara internal - 2 seconds.  The exports from Studio were done using MCJ's plugin - everything done at default settings, with no effort to make "great" renders.

    Good going Roygee. Is MCJ's plugin part of studio or where do I get it? I suppose that your 2nd example was Carrara. Are the times still the same for each program?

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