How to Make an Object Move When it Can't?

n.aspros123

I have the Jill's Apartment Environment. It has a chair with a white towel and green cloth(?) I would like to know the step by step proceedure of how to make these objects move when they cannot move?

The chair and it's accessories are not selectable to be moved. I think it needs to be modified with Geometry selector tool but I don't the exact method of how to add a XYZ Axis to make it movable?

See attached screen.

felis

I have no clue which product you are talking about.

What gets selected if you click on the chair with the Universal Tool?

Looking in the part of the scene tab I can see, it looks like there is many individual objects.

If the chair/towels isn't their own objects, you can convert the overall obect to an figure (if it isn't already), and then with the geometry tool select all the geometry on the chair/towels and create a new bone from selected. Then you can move the bone.

n.aspros123

felis said:

I have no clue which product you are talking about.

What gets selected if you click on the chair with the Universal Tool?

Looking in the part of the scene tab I can see, it looks like there is many individual objects.

If the chair/towels isn't their own objects, you can convert the overall obect to an figure (if it isn't already), and then with the geometry tool select all the geometry on the chair/towels and create a new bone from selected. Then you can move the bone.

 

It's the Chair, White Towel and Green Material on the chair. 

felis

If you can select them in the scene tab, then go to the parameters tab, and check if translate is locked. If so unlock them.

If not locked, what happens if you move a slider, or type a new value in?

n.aspros123

felis said:

If you can select them in the scene tab, then go to the parameters tab, and check if translate is locked. If so unlock them.

If not locked, what happens if you move a slider, or type a new value in?

 

They Chair, white towel and green material don't show up in the Scene tab. That's why I asked my question.  

n.aspros123

n.aspros123 said:

felis said:

I have no clue which product you are talking about.

What gets selected if you click on the chair with the Universal Tool?

Looking in the part of the scene tab I can see, it looks like there is many individual objects.

If the chair/towels isn't their own objects, you can convert the overall obect to an figure (if it isn't already), and then with the geometry tool select all the geometry on the chair/towels and create a new bone from selected. Then you can move the bone.

 

It's the Chair, White Towel and Green Material on the chair. 

 

They cannot be selected and are not there in the Scene Tab.

frank0314

n.aspros123 said:

felis said:

If you can select them in the scene tab, then go to the parameters tab, and check if translate is locked. If so unlock them.

If not locked, what happens if you move a slider, or type a new value in?

 

They Chair, white towel and green material don't show up in the Scene tab. That's why I asked my question.  

What product is that?

n.aspros123

n.aspros123 said:

n.aspros123 said:

felis said:

I have no clue which product you are talking about.

What gets selected if you click on the chair with the Universal Tool?

Looking in the part of the scene tab I can see, it looks like there is many individual objects.

If the chair/towels isn't their own objects, you can convert the overall obect to an figure (if it isn't already), and then with the geometry tool select all the geometry on the chair/towels and create a new bone from selected. Then you can move the bone.

 

It's the Chair, White Towel and Green Material on the chair. 

 

 

 

 They cannot be selected with the translate tool and are not there in the Scene Tab.

SofaCitizen

Google suggests that this is a game-rip not a proper Daz product. Therefore, it's likely that this has been designed to run effiiciently in the game it came from and probably doesn't have the separated objects you were hoping for.

You are probably better off taking something like that into Blender I would imagine.

n.aspros123

frank0314 said:

n.aspros123 said:

felis said:

If you can select them in the scene tab, then go to the parameters tab, and check if translate is locked. If so unlock them.

If not locked, what happens if you move a slider, or type a new value in?

 

They Chair, white towel and green material don't show up in the Scene tab. That's why I asked my question.  

What product is that?

 

They're part of the Jill's Apartment Environment app. I'd link it here but moderaters chuck a wobbly.

frank0314

SofaCitizen said:

Google suggests that this is a game-rip not a proper Daz product. Therefore, it's likely that this has been designed to run effiiciently in the game it came from and probably doesn't have the separated objects you were hoping for.

You are probably better off taking something like that into Blender I would imagine.

I just looked it up, and it seems to be an app and if that is the case it won't be able to move anything without that app I'm thinking. As you suggested, it would be best to take it into Blender or some other modeling app and separated out if you want to move each object.

n.aspros123

SofaCitizen said:

Google suggests that this is a game-rip not a proper Daz product. Therefore, it's likely that this has been designed to run effiiciently in the game it came from and probably doesn't have the separated objects you were hoping for.

You are probably better off taking something like that into Blender I would imagine.

 

The Fridge and Laptop can be selected and moved along the XYZ axis. Why can they be selected? Look at the list in the Scene tab. There's a couple more items that can be. Surely there's a proceedure to make the Chair, Towel and Green Material be able to be moved.

felis

You haven't actually said what get selected in the scene tab, when you select the chair in the viewport.

SofaCitizen

n.aspros123 said:

The Fridge and Laptop can be selected and moved along the XYZ axis. Why can they be selected? Look at the list in the Scene tab. There's a couple more items that can be. Surely there's a proceedure to make the Chair, Towel and Green Material be able to be moved.

That's a question for whoever you got that product from. It would appear that only some of the items in the scene are separate objects - the ones that are not separate are not designed to be moved or adjusted independantly. If you paid for it then ask for your money back - if it was free then you often get what you pay for.

Daz Studio is primarily for compositing, arranging and adjusting existing models - it's not really a modelling application (although there are tools and plugins to do some stuff). Therefore, you are usually at the mercy of how things are split up. If you need an apartment environment then there are plenty of others available in the store and the vast majority will have the furniture and other objects as separate props.

Richard Haseltine

SofaCitizen said:

n.aspros123 said:

The Fridge and Laptop can be selected and moved along the XYZ axis. Why can they be selected? Look at the list in the Scene tab. There's a couple more items that can be. Surely there's a proceedure to make the Chair, Towel and Green Material be able to be moved.

That's a question for whoever you got that product from. It would appear that only some of the items in the scene are separate objects - the ones that are not separate are not designed to be moved or adjusted independantly. If you paid for it then ask for your money back - if it was free then you often get what you pay for.

Daz Studio is primarily for compositing, arranging and adjusting existing models - it's not really a modelling application (although there are tools and plugins to do some stuff). Therefore, you are usually at the mercy of how things are split up. If you need an apartment environment then there are plenty of others available in the store and the vast majority will have the furniture and other objects as separate props.

That isn't entirely true - the Geometry Editor, with a bit of export/reimport, can be used to separate items or, as long as they aren't welded, the item can be covnerted to a figure and grouped (if it isn't) then made into a bone with the Joint Editor and Node Weightmap Brush.