Is 4.23 a joke? [Solved] Driver issue fixed
Starkdog
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After the constant nagging screens, I updated to 4.23 this morning. I then loaded a G9 character, which took just as long, if not longer to load. I tried rendering, and nothing. I even double-checked the render settings, and it's using my 1070 card like 4.22 did. Tried to render again, still nothing. I even tried the iRay preview, and it just stuck in the loading bar for over 10 minutes. Not liking this experience so far. Been using D|S since the v 0.96 days (2004), and spent a ton here. I'm just really disappointed. Is there anything else I need to set-up?
Thanks, -David
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Which version of GPU drivers are you using?
Hello Leana,
I'm using Studio Driver 528.49 for my GTX1070 card, as shown below(attachment).
Thanks, -David
I finally updated a couple days ago, too, and it has been a lot laggier and such for me as well. Thanks for the reminder to check my drivers. I'll have to look into that today (after proper amounts of coffee).
For me coffee is essential for early morning DAZ work!
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8578521/#Comment_8578521 REQUIRES: NVIDIA Driver 537.13 (R535) on Windows
I have been experiencing the exact opposite. I feel like the newest versions are much quicker when it comes to loading times and such.
This is my experience as well. I'm very pleased with DS 4.23, but it does require attention to the correct nvidia driver.
Hmm,
Don't know what happened to my additional reply. I updated NVIDIA drivers to 566.36, and things render now, and seems quite faster rendering, even for a GTX1070 card! However, I have noticed where certain older hairs now render white. But, at least the strand hair renders well.
There were incompatibilities with OOT hairs and newer DS versions. If you are having problems with OOT hairs, be sure to update all of them.
You are a very helpful parrot. Thank you so much.
Richard, could you maybe propose to DAZ to give us a really easily found and fool-proof place to find out the current drivers needed? Because I tend to get lost in the DS studio announcement threads, and I'm sure others do, too. Couldn't there be a sticky at the top of the DS forum just stating, 'current nvidia driver needed is ...'? That would be SO helpful!
Are these Studio Drivers? Which would mean I have to go backwards in my drivers ?
No, you don't need to go backwards in your drivers. The OP said he was using 428.xx, which is below 537.13, the minimum Studio Driver for DS 423.
thanks. that's good to know. I'm running drivers new in December.
Though there were issues with some newer drivers, but as long as you don't have issues it is theoretically safe to use anything newer than the minimum version; if you do have issues rolling back to the minimum required is a wise test.
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/666006/daz-studio-4-23-0-x-highlights#latest
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/666011/daz-studio-4-23-0-x-nvidia-iray#latest
both generally have a note, if you do an in-page search for driver that should fairly quickly find them (both are read-only threads, so no chit-chat).
Those are not up to date, though. The highlights thread ends at 4.23.0.4 (October 10, 2024). We are now up to 4.23.1.20 Public Build and it is 3 months since the last highlights update.
The driver version is noted only when the Iray version chnages the requirement, which hasn't yet happened for the public build. There is a highlights thread in gernal for the public builds https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/714286/daz-studio-4-23-1-x-highlights#latest
I think I understand what you are saying. You linked to the older thread, because that was the last time that a release of DS included a new version of Iray that required a driver update. Is that right?
But if a person was updating from an older version, like 4.21. to 4.23(.1.X), wouldn't they look in the newer highlights for 4.23(.1.x) and not see the information about the driver requirement? Is one required to look through all intermediate version highlights to find the latest mentioned driver requirement? If there is a minimum version that (still) applies to 4.23(.1.x), I suggest that it be mentioned there, too.
I agree there should be an easier way to stay up to date on DS requirements. I always keep my nvidia driver up to date even if DAZ hasn't announced a minimum requirement.
See, this is what I mean, it's really rather confusing. A simple, up to state statement in ONE place and with a thread name that points directly to this would help a lot I think.
If it's not notated on the newest release, that's because the previous was still the minimum required. Changlogs usually only tell you what's changed, fixed or added, not the continuation of something. It's the user that is to keep up with the thread announcements to read any changes. The announcements are being done in the proper place since it's the forum dedicated to the application and is clearly marked for that version at the top of the page and has an announcement tag locking it in place. Could a couple things be added to help, most definitely, but atm this is what we have, and it works if you look at it.
Hello All,
I GOT EVERYTHING FIXED, and D|S works just fine now!
I updated the title to be less bombastic. I appreciate the support during my still half-asleep pre-coffee state.
As for 4.22 to 4.23 migration, my understanding WAS that new NVIDIA drivers were needed for the 40-series cards, which is why I didn't check first.
Once again, Richard, Barbult, and Frank were right, that the 4.23 announcement thread mentioned newer driver requirements, but I had overlooked that.
So, once 4.24+ releases come out, I'll be sure to cross-check driver requirements, and update as needed.
Thanks, -David
This keeps being said, while we keep saying we want an actual changelog. Trying to sort out timely official information among all the chatter, and whether it applies to the main or to beta, is like trying to remove dog hair from a sweater one strand at a time. (and a changelog wouldn't be plagued by these ongoing cloudflare errors, so long as you kept it out of the forums.)
There is a change log http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dazstudio/4/change_log
The threads I linked to above do not have chatter, they are locked and only Daz staff can post updates to them.
Every release/update is logged here, and has a link to the changelog. It's a locked thread, so there is no chatter. Look for the announcement thread and it should have "Highlights" added to it, and they're locked https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/714286/daz-studio-4-23-1-x-highlights#latest
Just as I was about to say something about the landing page when you click on Daz Studio from DIM ( http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dazstudio/4/start ), I noticed that there is a link to the change log there. No idea if it's always been there, but it's not in a place I'd have expected it. The table for current releases is generally what my eyes graze first, from left to right, and the general and public betas have discussions leading to said forums. The documentation goes to a user guide and reference guide. It would make sense to put the change log in that section instead of as a header by-line. In all the time I've used Daz, only now have I noticed it, when it should have been more obvious. But it's good to know it exists.