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just noticed the young-uns in the back, cute
Glad to hear but not happy I'm the only one having G2 M/F load slow... which is most used character. Slowly getting ready to get J&J incorporated... perhaps there will be some great sales on G3 figures in the future... only have a handful now.
Can you give an example of what you are loading, eg figure, clothing included or nude, etc. And how big the car. file is?
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My 190MB (compressed) G2F Rosie base (with hair) takes f o r e v e r to load! Then comes Genesis 1, not so bad, but nowhere near the speed of the V4 version.
Yeah, John... you're not alone in that! Argh!
Very interesting, and I heartily agree about Gen4. I'm trying to attach a couple of images showing my recent renders with Gen4, not sure its working, the "Uploading" never stops and it says "no file chosen". I dunno ...
Thanks Phil! Gen 4 eye have always looked doll like from the side so I spent a few hours on a Google "Eye macro" search studing real eye contruction. It was Darts iris glow obsession that peaked my curiosity on what a normal map applied to the iris inner area would do if it was painted to face outward (on a geometrically flat iris). The glow in the image is the result.
Incidentally, to anyone who is interested, I will post all of the shaders, morphs and alpha maps when I finish working on the right eye.
Thanks SileneUK!
That's a cool render...I love those characters and thier outfits! Looking forward to seeing how they painted eye brows come out :-)
Thanks Dart! I got to tell you though, if could get the same look you get in your renders I wouldn’t be aiming for realism! I wrote a whole fairytale adventure script (and bought pages and pages of medieval products) and then bagged it all when I couldn't get that look you get!
Thanks Steve, hope you can get them uploaded. You might just need to quite and relaunch your browser.
It matters not which G2 figure... even a nekked Base figure loads slow hangs at 50% for quite awhile... haven't timed it since I always go do something else until it's finally loaded... this is into even a New Medium Sceen so has no size since not saved yet. I save both versions with/without clothing to Carrarra My Objects to save a bit of time loading from Smart content in Carrara. Note that I've not Consolidated Shaders before saving... I really should. But as Dart says it's probably AntiVirus software that slows it down... I use Avast which checks any file that's either loaded or saved. Genesis 1 is a bit quicker but still slow... haven't loaded earlier generations since I don't remember when. Also of note is that even Carrara and most other program will display (Not Reponding) upon their start... for Carrara I just get a white window and no splash screen. Once Carrara has loaded I can shut it down later... wait or immediatly start it again and it loads very fast... but not load DAZ figures or complicated content.
The other day I cranked up DS to find out where some content is located... it is very fast while when Smart Content is accessed in Carrara it takes quite awhile before all my figures/characters icons show up.
Should I upload that white (Not Responding) screen? You can stare as long as you want.
maybe try exempting the folders where your content is from being scanned by Avast and see if there is any difference.
are you on Windows 8 or 10?
if so you probably don't need Avast.
Siline, if you use Crazybump a lot, while not free but worth the price, take a look at SpiritIlluminator. It does what Crazybump does but it also lets you paint and edit your own normal maps using a mix of textures.
Stezza, Windoze 7 ... I'll try exempting to see what happens.
Thanks... Tried as you suggested... exempted entire Studio Library. G2F, both clothed and Base (only) loaded quite fast. What is very strange is that after I shut down Carrara, removed the exemption then started Carrara again and both still loaded very quickly. I've also checked by re-starting system just to be sure that Avast did not know that the exclusion has been removed. Still loaded both G2s fairly quickly... even the G2 with the corridor loaded somewhat OK. This is after the Objects folder took awhile each time... it's now nearly as slow as loading Smart Content.
To experiment further I tried Olympia 6 from Carrara'a Smart Content/Files/Figures/People/Female/Real World. After double clicking the icon it loaded very slow as G2 base. Deleted Olympia 6 from scene then tried G2 base from Objects which loaded quite fast again. My problems like the current Carrara Challenge.... Only come out at night.
Next step is to move the few characters/figures into a subfolder of Objects... off I go.
I have found with my system that having very large files in the Object folder can really slow things up where if you pick one object to load Carrara is still reading the other very large files in the folder before loading... and then even worse if it's a large file you have selected to load..
so I tend to only keep low size items in the folders
I very very rarely use smart content it's slow as!
Great that explains it then... got some folder cleaning to do then.
wgdjohn What if you go to the location where your browser files are saved in their folders, eg the Presets>Objects>ProjectName, and just click on the car file and let it open Carrara for you? IE, don't open Carrara first, go to the directory and open the project file by just double-clicking it. Also, do your files take a long time to save?
Stezza, that is my problem, too. In fact, if I have a specially named folder I create and add to Objects, eg my NeanderthalsG3Models one... it takes a long time for the file icons to populate in the browser (sort of as slow as Smart Content but not quite). I was able to speed that up by making a subfolder inside of the NeanderthalsG3Models called OldModels for ones I don't really use much, but do not want to relocate so as to mess up texture links. I made it manually in the Objects folder, then clicked add folder in the Carrara browser, and updated the main one. Then I only have the current items front and centre, so that folder populates its icons faster. BUT, also I do as I mentioned to John above, I click on the project file directly in its place in the browser folder, or even for those stored on the external drive and let them open Carrara that way.
So for the most part, I keep finished figures/scenes over on my external hard drive in their project files. They, and any other figures V4, G1 and G2 all load happily and 'know' to look for the textures in their proper places in the right Runtime or a special textures folder for that figure elsewhere. I make special texture folders as often I tweak a texture in PS and then, wah,lah, it's updated in the file next time I open the car file if its not already open, or I refresh it when in the Shader Room for an open file I am working on. Am sort of OCD on doing it that way... comes from a long time working with linked files in InDesign and Illustrator.
Smart Content can be helpful to remind me I actually own something! But it is slow....sometimes I am happy to browse the alphabetical listings under Smart Content, but the naming system makes my head hurt!
Oh I will be looking at that... thank you! Hee... hee, just found it's called SpriteIlluminator, the Spirit spelling got me to a rejected Star Wars concept site
Cheers! It looks interesting and will give it the free trial.
Silene, glad you found it! The dark side made me do that typo. It's one of their evil marketing schemes.
Still can't get images attached to comments, it gets to 100% uploaded, then just stalls at "Uploading" and "None Selected" ... ? So I put a couple in my gallery, "M4 Duke" and "Everybody's Watching Something":
https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/users/2222
Silene, Earlier I cleaned up the folder of the Gensis files I'd saved but did leave only G2 Base. I did as you asked and they load quicker than some that gave me some problems an also took up as much as 450+ mb... it's no wonder why the folder took so long to load. I timed the load for just the base G2 which is now at about 1min 10 sec. I also tried entire .car files with G2 and + simple object from my "G:Projects/Carrara" folder which load about the same some faster... they vary in size but normally run about 35+- mb when saved as .car. A wait time of 1+- minutes seems like an eternity to me... "computers should wait on us... Not we on them".
Save times: These do take a bit longer but only around 5+- sec... tested on G2 Ninive with a default Assemble room plane included. Loaded from a saved project file with a pose applied. I also tested loading saving V6 from Content/Products aboout same time as above. G2 Gianini takes a bit longer for both load and save... Then Michael 6 load 1min10sec
Still in Content/Products... tested Gabi for V5, bare, which both loaded/saved load 50sec. Strange saved it again and took 1min25sec to save. Closed the scene and loaded again in about 27secs and saved in 50secs. {{{ puzzeled }}}... done testing for the night... I can see why Dart prefers G1 over G2. Still I'll use the latter as well as G3, thanks to Misty... and I suspect help from Wendy of course.
So what have I learned??:
Please let me know if anything above is wrong.
Thanks Stezza and Silene for all the help and suggestions.
I know it was mentioned before, but do you have Carrara's app and files in your trusted app area in your AV software? It gets relegated to low or low restricted as it's not a 'popular' application, and it seems to have an unknown digital signature (whatever that is). Also put DS on the trusted list, too if it's not as the content is linked to Carrara (DIM and Native Content, too).
My old Dell was quite slow with W7... this Asus, which I got with W7 because I like it...is like greased lightening. I have had problems with my Nvidia Quatro K2200 video card but tweaked the settings and my screen does not seem to blackout any longer which was annoying. Fingers crossed!
FYI, I am attaching a montage of screenshots from the Smart Content tab. I know you know about Products, but the Default which appears under the time-hungry icon populating Files for displaying categories is also annoying and you do not have to use that one and put up with seeing all the categories displaying their icons. Even if you just click on the sub-category Hair, you get all of your hair products. I was always forgetting to bypass the main Hair and go right to the type of hair I wanted,so now I use the method described next.
If you go the next level down and you will see Categories is a section on its own. So if I go to the exact same catagory, eg Hair, and click on the hair item, and only maybe one or two appear. I then click on the various types under that, eg Articulate, Face, Body, Long, Short etc and only the icons for the sub categories populate.For me this is more manageable IMHO. Occasionally I do want to see all at once uner Files at the top, but if I do, it's off to put the kettle on for a cuppa whilst waiting for all 2000 items in my library to show up!
RE: smart content
Recently, I have started to use smart content, but it is still rare.
I install everything with DIM in part because I can use DIM to find where the content is installed. In DIM, use the search box function in the installed column to find the product, then right click on its row and you can reveal installed files. It includes the path. This is especially valuable in identifying texture maps, which don't always load by default in Carrara.
However, sometimes I can't remember the name of a product (or maybe even what I have), in which case the "Categories" portion of Smart Content might remind me of what I have. Memory isses, hate getting old.
Silene - absolutely love the image in your signature line.
Oh yes, Dio, I share your pain....ugh.
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Err, what were we talking about?
I only spell Philip with one L...
Forget where you put the second L?
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