The Mac FAQ

Rod Wise Driggo

Given that Studio 5 might be a thing, wouldn't it make sense for DAZ to eventually provide a first alpha with filament so that folks could test it out.
Having nothing in terms of an at least rough roadmap is what sucks most.

mcorr

wsterdan said:

Richard Haseltine said:

I'd be very wary of trusting ChatGPT, certainly without checking its claims against real data generated by humans with actual understanding of the topic.

ChatGPT said you'd try to sow distrust...    

CHATGPT told me it is programmed by humans using real data, so it thinks Richard is misinformed

Totte

mcorr said:

wsterdan said:

Richard Haseltine said:

I'd be very wary of trusting ChatGPT, certainly without checking its claims against real data generated by humans with actual understanding of the topic.

ChatGPT said you'd try to sow distrust...    

CHATGPT told me it is programmed by humans using real data, so it thinks Richard is misinformed

Just for fun I asked ChatGPT how you connect to the ChatGPT API, and it failed, so Skynet wont be self aware yet... 

inquire

That's kind of like saying that AI's are more like us than we ever imagined they would be. How many Homo sapiens could tell you how they connect up to the universe? How many would always give you an accurate answer?

Elor

Our universe doesn't have its API documented on Github.

Scavenger

Totte said:

Ok.. black friday-cyber monday time.. so I'm at the decision point.

I'm thinking the Mac Mini Pro base with the 24 gig memory will be the choice.... I'm debating heavily on the processor upgrade or the ram upgrade... but I'm leaning (trying to convince myself) that the base will be more than I need and the extra money is better used elsewhere.

Apple M4 Pro chip with 12‑core CPU, 16‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine24GB unified memory$1,399

(this is also versus the

Apple M4 chip with 10‑core CPU, 10‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine32GB unified memory$1,199

I think it's the right balance between power, capability, and price that should give me a lot of years of use (and if i start making more money off stuff that i NEED more..ram for example...I can look into the potentional 3rd party ram upgrades that are being worked on, or buy back/buy new plans)

(I'm upgrading from a 2012 imac and a 6 or more yo windows pc with a 1070ti, so it's more future years I'm looking at rather than imrpovement over current as that's a given).

ALL INSIGHTS and OPINONS are helpful.

Totte

Scavenger said:

Totte said:

Ok.. black friday-cyber monday time.. so I'm at the decision point.

I'm thinking the Mac Mini Pro base with the 24 gig memory will be the choice.... I'm debating heavily on the processor upgrade or the ram upgrade... but I'm leaning (trying to convince myself) that the base will be more than I need and the extra money is better used elsewhere.

Apple M4 Pro chip with 12‑core CPU, 16‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine24GB unified memory$1,399

(this is also versus the

Apple M4 chip with 10‑core CPU, 10‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine32GB unified memory$1,199

I think it's the right balance between power, capability, and price that should give me a lot of years of use (and if i start making more money off stuff that i NEED more..ram for example...I can look into the potentional 3rd party ram upgrades that are being worked on, or buy back/buy new plans)

(I'm upgrading from a 2012 imac and a 6 or more yo windows pc with a 1070ti, so it's more future years I'm looking at rather than imrpovement over current as that's a given).

ALL INSIGHTS and OPINONS are helpful.

I say 32GB RAM, at least. I have issues rendering on my 32GB machine with Iray as it chews up all RAM and then it gets really slow (much worse when using consolidated RAM/VRAM. I have no problem rendering a scene on my 64GB MacPro 2013 when Studio uses 100+ GB RAM, but when Studio hits 26 GB RAM on the 32GB RAM macStudio shit hits the fan. 

Scavenger

Totte said:

 

I say 32GB RAM, at least. I have issues rendering on my 32GB machine with Iray as it chews up all RAM and then it gets really slow (much worse when using consolidated RAM/VRAM. I have no problem rendering a scene on my 64GB MacPro 2013 when Studio uses 100+ GB RAM, but when Studio hits 26 GB RAM on the 32GB RAM macStudio shit hits the fan. 

so you think the 32 gb ram with less of all cores ( don't know if there's a difference between m4 and m4 pro as opposed to the quantity of the cores vs the quality).

The m4 pro has 24 or 48 gb ram... 48 is $400 more...that's a big investment.

(meant to include the picture with the previous post)

 

 

DoctorJellybean

Scavenger said:

Totte said:

 

I say 32GB RAM, at least. I have issues rendering on my 32GB machine with Iray as it chews up all RAM and then it gets really slow (much worse when using consolidated RAM/VRAM. I have no problem rendering a scene on my 64GB MacPro 2013 when Studio uses 100+ GB RAM, but when Studio hits 26 GB RAM on the 32GB RAM macStudio shit hits the fan. 

so you think the 32 gb ram with less of all cores ( don't know if there's a difference between m4 and m4 pro as opposed to the quantity of the cores vs the quality).

The m4 pro has 24 or 48 gb ram... 48 is $400 more...that's a big investment.

(meant to include the picture with the previous post)

Personally, from a Windows viewpoint, the more RAM the better. It's an overkill for people who just browse, watch some YouTube videos and use Instagram. When it comes to creativity, more.

inquire

@Scavenger: where are you going to buy this from? Amazon? Apple.com? Best Buy? 

Scavenger

inquire said:

@Scavenger: where are you going to buy this from? Amazon? Apple.com? Best Buy? 

Apple.com is likely where I'm going to. I have the Apple card, I get 3% back, so that's good.