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I managed to complete my first map, thanks to ya'lls help.
Nice job! What did you end up using?
I used Photoshop :D
Thanks to everyone for the tips.
Interesting sort of map, looks old, but uses the more modern boundaries, and hmmmmmm we seem to have lost London. OH, dear, never mind some of us will never miss it. lol.
Does look good. :coolsmile:
Wasn't London part of Middlesex county wise in the early days? My history might be a bit off though and I am not from England :) But yeah, my best friend is from Birmingham and he probably wouldn't miss London either ;)
London is on both sides of the river. The actual true "City" of London is on the north bank, and further east than Middlesex as it is now thought of.. The part of London I was born in is now called SW London, and yes would have been Middlesex. The city is sort of nearer to Essex and as London bridge joins it there it would have been Surrey / Kent on the other side of the bridge, using current county names. Tower bridge definitely joins the old Kent and Essex counties. The city is not quite as easy to define. London was orginally an independant County in it's own right quite a long time ago. (several hundred years, not certain exactly how long)
Middlesex itself technically no longer is a county, although it is still widely used in addresses etc.
Ah, ok, I only recall that Henry I basically granted Middlesex to London in 12th century - which seemed to be a merging rather than an 'assignment' and if I recall it continued to be treated as "one". In 19th century the actual "County of London" was created, which was replaced by "Greater London" then.
Derailing the thread a bit, but love to learn about history and due to my best friend I got a lot of the British history along with that.
Yes he gave Middlesex to London, not vice versa. London has since got greedy and has gobbled up parts of Kent, Surrey and Essex. I tend to get very annoyed when I see News articles that describe somewhere as London, when I know it is really Kent or Surrey, even if London think they own it. I may have been born in London, but I moved to Kent when I was a babe and grew up there, and then moved to Surrey. I refuse to admit that I have ever lived in London. :coolsmirk: Now I no longer live in England even.
Sorry Aidana. Must stop this.
I love it when thread take a life of their own. I get to see such interesting stuff :D
The map had to be historically accurate to the 10th century, when the story takes place. Soooo, I used an actual 10th century map as my template. If anything is missing, it's their fault ... lol. Maybe London wasn't it's own shire back then?
London wasn't a shire/county back then. It didn't become an actual county until very later. From what I gather, it had a sort of "special state" with own sheriff when it did get Middlesex in 12th century by Henry I, but still wasn't an own county. So should be fine :)
It's always nice to delve into history :)
Yes I agree there London didn't become even the Capitol City of England until the 12th Century, although it was there as a "City" when the Romans were around. Built by them in around 40 AD or just after. Some parts of the original City walls are still there, and some names of places in the City of London do reflect the fact that it was a walled city, such as London Wall, BishopsGate, Ludgate etc.
Another interesting little fact is that within the actual boundaries of the original City of London there no roads.
Looks very good.
If you make any more Photoshop maps you may find these free resources to be helpful. :)
http://www.sharecg.com/v/27898/browse/15/2D-Resources/RPG-Map-Making-Resource
I had wanted to post that link the other day but couldn't remember where I had downloaded the brushes and stuff in it from.
http://www.vintyri.org/vintyri/vccindex.htm
On the 2nd link they just started making a version of the symbols for GIMP and Photoshop. The link to that version is at the bottom of the page.