[Released] Now-Crowd Billboards - Modern City Life

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  • BeeMKay said:

    Nice try, but that would mean she'd swap her handbag in mid-step. Not to mention the shadow-flip-flopping. devil

    It should work for other characters you have in your set, though.

    The handbag I can't fix but turn off "Use Soft Mask" and the shadow is fine.

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019

    Maybe I'll just cut her in half, and flip the lower half in PS. I think that might even work. But not for that particular image. smiley

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244
    BeeMKay said:

    I've been making good use of your bilboards, too. Here's the latest page from Demon Division Webcomic, and as the scene unfolds, there will be some more people of the billboard crowd featured.

    Nice!  Really good!  I like your use of rotating the billboard to disguise that they are not actually moving

    Yes, I thought that was a great idea, too. I wouldn't have known they were not fully rendered models if you didn't mention it. Very well done!

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244
    edited January 2018
    barbult said:

    One more image with a billboard in the back. Again I used DOF to blend everything. I added the City Bike back by the billboard for added interest.

    I like this one a lot!  You are really embracing using the product.  Instead of crowds though, you use the product as Now-Accents! smiley  "Adding a drop of people to your backgrounds to keep it interesting" smiley

    Thanks. Yes, I like to use them as accents. That seems to fit the kind of scenes I make. In the past, the backgrounds were kind of unnaturally empty. I like they way they blend so will with added background props, like the city bike, too. I really really like the natural posing of the characters in these billboards. I haven't tried any of the sitting billboards yet. I hope for more sets like this one. Do you have any sneak peeks of things in the works?

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244

    Oh, by the way, DIM has an update today. It looks like the solid masks are included now.

  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318

    I'm really loving this, especially now I've realised that I can get rid of the ground shadow. The one thing that strikes me as unnatural is the same thing that stands out as odd in pretty much every Daz crowd life scene ever - no children. I'd love to see a bunch of kids aged 6-11 or so as one of your forthcoming products. They're every bit as common a sight on the streets as the older people are, and I can think of other places they could be used too - school playgrounds, playing fields or just as bit-part characters where the adults are the main event. Noting their absence is not a criticism of the Modern City Life product, more of a 'Wow! I want more of the same!' :)

  • BeeMKay said:

    Maybe I'll just cut her in half, and flip the lower half in PS. I think that might even work. But not for that particular image. smiley

    It's possible, though I think it would be easier to be creative in placing things (other people, doorframe) to hide the bag

  • RiverSoft ArtRiverSoft Art Posts: 6,573
    edited January 2018
    barbult said:
    barbult said:

    One more image with a billboard in the back. Again I used DOF to blend everything. I added the City Bike back by the billboard for added interest.

    I like this one a lot!  You are really embracing using the product.  Instead of crowds though, you use the product as Now-Accents! smiley  "Adding a drop of people to your backgrounds to keep it interesting" smiley

    Thanks. Yes, I like to use them as accents. That seems to fit the kind of scenes I make. In the past, the backgrounds were kind of unnaturally empty. I like they way they blend so will with added background props, like the city bike, too. I really really like the natural posing of the characters in these billboards. I haven't tried any of the sitting billboards yet. I hope for more sets like this one. Do you have any sneak peeks of things in the works?

    Thank you about the posing.  My early posing work is coming in handy.  I am very particular in getting that right.  I usually use a store-bought pose as a base, but it is rare that I like it exactly and I usually work on the pose a lot.

    For modern life-type billboard products, there are none in the planning right now.  Party Time and Modern City Life are it for now.  In the planning stages (or being actively created), we have:

    • Medieval City Life (and Fantasy Races expansions)
    • Sci-Fi Life
    • Beach Life
    • Victorian/Steam Punk
    • War (probably WWII or Modern, and Medieval/Fantasy)
    • Court/Ballroom Life (Medieval/Fantasy)
    • Zombie Apocalypse
    • Modern Playground

    I am sure there are others, but that is off the top of my head.

     

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  • barbult said:

    Oh, by the way, DIM has an update today. It looks like the solid masks are included now.

    Oh fantastic!  That was fast.

  • I'm really loving this, especially now I've realised that I can get rid of the ground shadow. The one thing that strikes me as unnatural is the same thing that stands out as odd in pretty much every Daz crowd life scene ever - no children. I'd love to see a bunch of kids aged 6-11 or so as one of your forthcoming products. They're every bit as common a sight on the streets as the older people are, and I can think of other places they could be used too - school playgrounds, playing fields or just as bit-part characters where the adults are the main event. Noting their absence is not a criticism of the Modern City Life product, more of a 'Wow! I want more of the same!' :)

    Good point.  I just did a post on upcoming products and I have planned to do a modern playground/park for the same reason you mentioned (just added it to that post as I had forgotten it).  The children are harder to get right though.  Between Daz' lack of good child characters (the Growing Up series helps but they are not perfect) and the lack of age-appropriate clothes, it has been something I have pushed off smiley  My wallet shudders in fear too; I thought I had a pretty extensive library until I came up with this idea.  You think you have enough clothes for a time period/genre until you want 30 different outfits for that same genre/time period!  smiley

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    I'm seeing an update in DIM for the Santa's Elves. Before I download nearly 1GB of data, can you verify you did an update? Also, a recommendation for future Now-Crowd products: Is it possible to put the script portion of the product in a separate file for download? It seems a shame to have to d/l a huge file to update a tiny file within. (Yes, I know this wouldn't be an issue with Daz Connect, but my DS computer is not connected to the internet.)

    Thank you for such a great product. I used a combination of images from this and the party product in a WIP scene ane they work beautifully. (I ended up changing things around and not using them in the final image, but I am really impressed with how well this works.) All I can say is... More, more, more! LOL

  • L'Adair said:

    I'm seeing an update in DIM for the Santa's Elves. Before I download nearly 1GB of data, can you verify you did an update? Also, a recommendation for future Now-Crowd products: Is it possible to put the script portion of the product in a separate file for download? It seems a shame to have to d/l a huge file to update a tiny file within. (Yes, I know this wouldn't be an issue with Daz Connect, but my DS computer is not connected to the internet.)

    Thank you for such a great product. I used a combination of images from this and the party product in a WIP scene ane they work beautifully. (I ended up changing things around and not using them in the final image, but I am really impressed with how well this works.) All I can say is... More, more, more! LOL

    I updated the script used by all the products to fix a bug.  If you download one of them, you have the new update and shouldn't need to download the others.  I would love to separate them.  Unfortunately, I have no control over that.  I even uploaded them separately and they recombined them.

    You are welcome!  I will try and keep them coming! smiley

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    L'Adair said:

    I'm seeing an update in DIM for the Santa's Elves. Before I download nearly 1GB of data, can you verify you did an update? Also, a recommendation for future Now-Crowd products: Is it possible to put the script portion of the product in a separate file for download? It seems a shame to have to d/l a huge file to update a tiny file within. (Yes, I know this wouldn't be an issue with Daz Connect, but my DS computer is not connected to the internet.)

    Thank you for such a great product. I used a combination of images from this and the party product in a WIP scene ane they work beautifully. (I ended up changing things around and not using them in the final image, but I am really impressed with how well this works.) All I can say is... More, more, more! LOL

    I updated the script used by all the products to fix a bug.  If you download one of them, you have the new update and shouldn't need to download the others.  I would love to separate them.  Unfortunately, I have no control over that.  I even uploaded them separately and they recombined them.

    You are welcome!  I will try and keep them coming! smiley

    Thank you.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244
    edited February 2018

    This isn't a great scene, but I wanted to try the sitting billboards. I had to enlarge the chair to meet their bodies, but I was able to make it look pretty realistically like they are sitting in the chair. I noticed a little pokethrough on the girl's shoe, but I haven't noticed much of that kind of problem with Modern City Life. Some of he free Elves (they're not in this image) have some clothes fitting problems in the crotch area - probably an autofit issue. 

    Couple Sitting billboard_002.jpg
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  • RiverSoft ArtRiverSoft Art Posts: 6,573
    edited February 2018
    barbult said:

    This isn't a great scene, but I wanted to try the sitting billboards. I had to enlarge the chair to meet their bodies, but I was able to make it look pretty realistically like they are sitting in the chair. I noticed a little pokethrough on the girl's shoe, but I haven't noticed much of that kind of problem with Modern City Life. Some of he free Elves (they're not in this image) have some clothes fitting problems in the crotch area - probably an autofit issue. 

    Sorry about the pokethrough.  I must have missed it.  I have rerendered the entire 72 billboard sequence MULTIPLE times because of pokethrough.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244
    barbult said:

    This isn't a great scene, but I wanted to try the sitting billboards. I had to enlarge the chair to meet their bodies, but I was able to make it look pretty realistically like they are sitting in the chair. I noticed a little pokethrough on the girl's shoe, but I haven't noticed much of that kind of problem with Modern City Life. Some of he free Elves (they're not in this image) have some clothes fitting problems in the crotch area - probably an autofit issue. 

    Sorry about the pokethrough.  I must have missed it.  I have rerendered the entire 72 billboard sequence MULTIPLE times because of pokethrough.

    As pokethrough goes, it is pretty trivial. I'm not worried about it.

  • barbult said:
    barbult said:

    This isn't a great scene, but I wanted to try the sitting billboards. I had to enlarge the chair to meet their bodies, but I was able to make it look pretty realistically like they are sitting in the chair. I noticed a little pokethrough on the girl's shoe, but I haven't noticed much of that kind of problem with Modern City Life. Some of he free Elves (they're not in this image) have some clothes fitting problems in the crotch area - probably an autofit issue. 

    Sorry about the pokethrough.  I must have missed it.  I have rerendered the entire 72 billboard sequence MULTIPLE times because of pokethrough.

    As pokethrough goes, it is pretty trivial. I'm not worried about it.

    Great!  smiley

    So do you like the sitting billboards?  Easy enough to use?

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244
    barbult said:
    barbult said:

    This isn't a great scene, but I wanted to try the sitting billboards. I had to enlarge the chair to meet their bodies, but I was able to make it look pretty realistically like they are sitting in the chair. I noticed a little pokethrough on the girl's shoe, but I haven't noticed much of that kind of problem with Modern City Life. Some of he free Elves (they're not in this image) have some clothes fitting problems in the crotch area - probably an autofit issue. 

    Sorry about the pokethrough.  I must have missed it.  I have rerendered the entire 72 billboard sequence MULTIPLE times because of pokethrough.

    As pokethrough goes, it is pretty trivial. I'm not worried about it.

    Great!  smiley

    So do you like the sitting billboards?  Easy enough to use?

    It worked easy enough for this view. I saw in one of your discussions where you talked about the challenges of some angles. It might be good to have some sitting billboards with a chair included in the billboard.That way, the character fits in the chair, and the billboard works from all angles. However you lose the flexibility of selecting any chair you want. Have you tried including props like the chair and rejected it for some reason?

  • RiverSoft ArtRiverSoft Art Posts: 6,573
    edited February 2018
    barbult said:
    barbult said:
    barbult said:

    This isn't a great scene, but I wanted to try the sitting billboards. I had to enlarge the chair to meet their bodies, but I was able to make it look pretty realistically like they are sitting in the chair. I noticed a little pokethrough on the girl's shoe, but I haven't noticed much of that kind of problem with Modern City Life. Some of he free Elves (they're not in this image) have some clothes fitting problems in the crotch area - probably an autofit issue. 

    Sorry about the pokethrough.  I must have missed it.  I have rerendered the entire 72 billboard sequence MULTIPLE times because of pokethrough.

    As pokethrough goes, it is pretty trivial. I'm not worried about it.

    Great!  smiley

    So do you like the sitting billboards?  Easy enough to use?

    It worked easy enough for this view. I saw in one of your discussions where you talked about the challenges of some angles. It might be good to have some sitting billboards with a chair included in the billboard.That way, the character fits in the chair, and the billboard works from all angles. However you lose the flexibility of selecting any chair you want. Have you tried including props like the chair and rejected it for some reason?

    I rejected it for basically the reason you stated.  Using a chair can make it jarring if that is not the chairs around it.  It also adds more shadows that can be "floating" off the ground.

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  • WolpiWolpi Posts: 323
    edited February 2018

    Great! Fantastic! Ingenious! smiley Thank you so much for this hugely useful supplement, thank you for all your strenuous efforts. With that you opened up new possibilities to 3d-art. I often missed it but never even thought of a solution. Meanwhile my ressources have grown but it's still very elaborated to merge more than three or five actors in a scene.

    No idea what "billboard" means. No idea how it works: the main thing is: it does! After instant billboards I was shocked by the 15GB and it took me several days to download it all sucessfully. But it's certainly worth it.

    As always each fulfilled wish gives birth to a new one. Yes, modern playground scenes are what I would like to add next. And beach or pool life of course.

    I think the both would be pretty universal for many artist and works. All the other themes mentioned in this thread are appealing also - but quite special.

    Merci bien et 'bon courage' pour tes projets prochaines!

    yeskiss

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  • WolpiWolpi Posts: 323

    ... apropos "No idea what "billboard" means." The german wikipedia offers three different answers - but none is satisfying. Last night I had the answer: billboard is really a person named Bill Board, actually a lifesize flat one, often met at the entrance halls of cinemas.Yes, that would fit. enlightened

  • Wolpi said:

    Great! Fantastic! Ingenious! smiley Thank you so much for this hugely useful supplement, thank you for all your strenuous efforts. With that you opened up new possibilities to 3d-art. I often missed it but never even thought of a solution. Meanwhile my ressources have grown but it's still very elaborated to merge more than three or five actors in a scene.

    No idea what "billboard" means. No idea how it works: the main thing is: it does! After instant billboards I was shocked by the 15GB and it took me several days to download it all sucessfully. But it's certainly worth it.

    As always each fulfilled wish gives birth to a new one. Yes, modern playground scenes are what I would like to add next. And beach or pool life of course.

    I think the both would be pretty universal for many artist and works. All the other themes mentioned in this thread are appealing also - but quite special.

    Merci bien et 'bon courage' pour tes projets prochaines!

    yeskiss

    You are very welcome!  smiley

    BTW, billboards in English are those large signs you see by the side of road advertising something (buy insurance, new lottery numbers, etc).  Basically, a flat plane which inserts a picture/text/whatever into your field of view.  So I believe the 3D billboards came from that.

  • Wolpi said:

    ... apropos "No idea what "billboard" means." The german wikipedia offers three different answers - but none is satisfying. Last night I had the answer: billboard is really a person named Bill Board, actually a lifesize flat one, often met at the entrance halls of cinemas.Yes, that would fit. enlightened

    smiley

  • WolpiWolpi Posts: 323

    Thank you. I believe you're right - although I like my Bill Board version ;)

    Your fantastic production I didn't dare to dream of reminds me of another thing I often need for my scenarios: the background, often outside the windows.

    I often have to browse lots and lots of real images - less for the kind of scenerie but for the special angle I need. The motifs are often pretty simple and universal: gardens, streets, settlements. But the angles of view are usually all the same in photos. The problem is much similar to the mutes and crowds since I don't want to purchase or load costly environments just for the subsidiary environment.

  • Wolpi said:

    Thank you. I believe you're right - although I like my Bill Board version ;)

    Your fantastic production I didn't dare to dream of reminds me of another thing I often need for my scenarios: the background, often outside the windows.

    I often have to browse lots and lots of real images - less for the kind of scenerie but for the special angle I need. The motifs are often pretty simple and universal: gardens, streets, settlements. But the angles of view are usually all the same in photos. The problem is much similar to the mutes and crowds since I don't want to purchase or load costly environments just for the subsidiary environment.

    I must admit your story about Bill is much better smiley  That is an interesting idea.

  • GreybroGreybro Posts: 2,502

    People in Military Battle Dress Uniform walking about, like on a military base or something might be a cool niche.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    Another probably easy one would be cinema/theater audiances... you'd probably wouldn't need many full body billboards - only a few would be visible sitting in the same row, when doing a scene with figures in the audiance - and some with distinguishable features. And a lot silhouettes for the rest wink

  • Greybro said:

    People in Military Battle Dress Uniform walking about, like on a military base or something might be a cool niche.

    I am planning a War series at some point.  This could be a nice expansion.  Thanks.

  • Another probably easy one would be cinema/theater audiances... you'd probably wouldn't need many full body billboards - only a few would be visible sitting in the same row, when doing a scene with figures in the audiance - and some with distinguishable features. And a lot silhouettes for the rest wink

    I want to do a concert crowd one.  I don't know if I would do a purely sitting one - that would be a bear for people to set up.

  • WolpiWolpi Posts: 323
    edited February 2018

    So many nice ideas. After all I hope you will decide to give preference to the most quotidian and most often used scenarios. Simple and easy but various poses, activities, ages, seasons, styles, environments ... pooh, the agony of choice. I feel pity for you, dear RiverSoft Artist

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