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  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    Artini said:

    Used Oil Canvas 2 preset from Cyberlink Photo Director 10 on Kimm render.

    image

    I really like what this did to the water and the plants. I'm not a big fan of what it did to her face – her skin looks kind of like leather. Although I must admit that, when reduced (which would be the same as seeing it from across the room), the face does look better. So, perhaps my reactions to the face are moot. Nevertheless, a very nice effect, overall.

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,357

    I guess in the context of the timeframe that comic takes place in, the though bubbles do make more sense then.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,431
    edited January 2020

    Thanks a lot for the comments, mmitchell_houston.

    I was just surprised, how many programs has similar filters and features.

    The funny thing is, that is no water visible in the render, I have provided to Photo Director, as seen below:

     

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  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    vrba79 said:

    I guess in the context of the timeframe that comic takes place in, the though bubbles do make more sense then.

    I can fully appreciate your reaction, though. And you're not the first one to have it, either. It's just that thought balloons are definitely out of vogue right now. If I sent this to Marvel or DC I predict that the first thing they would tell me would be to ditch the thought balloons and go with captions (the second would be to change the character design: he looks too much like Batman or Black Panther). So, you're definitely in step with the times.

    I'm going to scrap the top of the page and start over. It needs some work.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    Artini said:

    Thanks a lot for the comments, mmitchell_houston.

    I was just surprised, how many programs has similar filters and features.

    The funny thing is, that is no water visible in the render, I have provided to Photo Director, as seen below:

    No water? Okay, you just freaked me out! The finished pic looked like water to me.

  • 31415926543141592654 Posts: 975

    Good day everyone,

    I am starting a comic strip and am in the process of choosing my color palette, designing my main characters, etc. The part I am having trouble with is making the caption balloons, thought bubbles, etc. I am guessing there is an easier way than manually making each one in photoshop. Is there a program designed to do this easily? What do you use? How do you do it? Thanks in advance.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    3141592654 said:

    Good day everyone,

    I am starting a comic strip and am in the process of choosing my color palette, designing my main characters, etc. The part I am having trouble with is making the caption balloons, thought bubbles, etc. I am guessing there is an easier way than manually making each one in photoshop. Is there a program designed to do this easily? What do you use? How do you do it? Thanks in advance.

    Hello, and welcome to the wonderful world of making comics!

    I use Clip Studio Paint for my work, which includes a tool to create custom word baloons and a tail. However, CSP has a rather steep learning curve (it is definitely worth it, though) and it may not be something you want to investigate at this time. (If you do want to hear about it, let me know and I'm happy to share why I think it is better than Photoshop when it comes to making comics.)

    To directly answer your question, though, you can buy PNG word balloons for use in your project. There is a rule against posting links to other companies, so I'm going to send it to you in a private message. Please check your INBOX for the link.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    edited January 2020

    Here is a link to some FREE balloons (and yes, you can use them in your project): https://www.deviantart.com/zombiesmile/art/300-Free-Speech-Bubbles-Download-419223430

    Hopefully Daz will let this link stay because it's to a free, noncompeting product.

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  • 31415926543141592654 Posts: 975
    mmitchell_houston said:
    3141592654 said:

    Good day everyone,

    I am starting a comic strip and am in the process of choosing my color palette, designing my main characters, etc. The part I am having trouble with is making the caption balloons, thought bubbles, etc. I am guessing there is an easier way than manually making each one in photoshop. Is there a program designed to do this easily? What do you use? How do you do it? Thanks in advance.

    Hello, and welcome to the wonderful world of making comics!

    I use Clip Studio Paint for my work, which includes a tool to create custom word baloons and a tail. However, CSP has a rather steep learning curve (it is definitely worth it, though) and it may not be something you want to investigate at this time. (If you do want to hear about it, let me know and I'm happy to share why I think it is better than Photoshop when it comes to making comics.)

    To directly answer your question, though, you can buy PNG word balloons for use in your project. There is a rule against posting links to other companies, so I'm going to send it to you in a private message. Please check your INBOX for the link.

    Thank you for the quick response. Clip Studio Paint is an investment ... but I have been looking through the features and may go for it (all of these programs have a steep learning curve). I see there is a trial version as well so i will probably play with it first. The free PSD bubbles look useful also.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    3141592654 said:
    mmitchell_houston said:
    3141592654 said:

    Good day everyone,

    I am starting a comic strip and am in the process of choosing my color palette, designing my main characters, etc. The part I am having trouble with is making the caption balloons, thought bubbles, etc. I am guessing there is an easier way than manually making each one in photoshop. Is there a program designed to do this easily? What do you use? How do you do it? Thanks in advance.

    Hello, and welcome to the wonderful world of making comics!

    I use Clip Studio Paint for my work, which includes a tool to create custom word baloons and a tail. However, CSP has a rather steep learning curve (it is definitely worth it, though) and it may not be something you want to investigate at this time. (If you do want to hear about it, let me know and I'm happy to share why I think it is better than Photoshop when it comes to making comics.)

    To directly answer your question, though, you can buy PNG word balloons for use in your project. There is a rule against posting links to other companies, so I'm going to send it to you in a private message. Please check your INBOX for the link.

    Thank you for the quick response. Clip Studio Paint is an investment ... but I have been looking through the features and may go for it (all of these programs have a steep learning curve). I see there is a trial version as well so i will probably play with it first. The free PSD bubbles look useful also.

    I am a BIG fan of Clip Studio Paint (I started with the older version, Manga Studio, which is the version I still use most of the time due to familiarity, but I am trying to transition to CSP in the next month or so). here are the things I like best about it:

    • Tapered lines without a Wacom Pen (draw a line with your mouse and the start and end tips will automatically come to a fine point)
    • Different layer modes: Photoshop has one mode for all the layers: All the layers are color, grayscale or b&w: CSP lets you define this by the layer: My ink layers are pure b&w, my color layers are color, etc.
    • Frame folders: Put everything in a frame folder (like a layer group folder in Photoshop) and everything that is outside the frame edges is hidden (like a layer mask).
    • Frame edges are easy to move and adjust.
    • Built in text and though balloons: A little finicky, but once you get a handle on them they are easy to use.
    • Tone and shading scale automatically: If you choose to use shading tones (little dots or lines, like those used in tradtional comic books), you can shrink or grow the page and the dot patterns do not change. If you want the book to have a 60-line screen, it doesn't matter if your page is 5.5x8.5 in. or 8.5x11 in.: when you export the page the line pattern will be identical in size, shape and density).
    • Better smart fill: If you define a "reference layer" for coloring, the coloring tool is smart enough to ignore small gaps in your inked lines (in other words, filling an area with color won't spill out to the whole drawing just because there is a tiny gap in the inked lines).
    • 3D support: Export a model from Daz or Poser and bring the OBJ file into CSP so you can move it around and use it as a reference (the pro version of CSP will try to outline it for you automatically – I don't use this feature much, so I really can't talk that much about it).
    • Most of the Photoshop shortcuts work in CSP.

    Things I don't love:

    • I think the text tool is a bit wonky – not nearly the level of control I'm used to in Adobe products.
    • I like the frames, but the frame divide tools could be better.
    • I would like to color-code the frame folders the way I can color-code them in Photoshop.
    • The transform vs move tool is a bit wonky to get used to.

    So, there it is. Things like and don't like about Clip Studio Paint. I like it a lot and it is not my primary comic creation editing software. I hardly ever work in Photoshop these days (for my comics work: I still rely on PS every day at work and for other projects). If I may make two suggestions:

    1. Wait for it to go on sale. There are frequently big discounts throughout the year.
    2. Actually try to make a page with panels, not just a pin-up. You won't understand how important some of  the tools are until you actually try to make a comics page with frames and word balloons.

     

    Finally, and I hate to shill like this, but  on Feb. 16, 2020 I am teaching a class on making comics with Poser and Clip Studio Paint. Although the first half of the class focuses on Poser, the second half is all about using CSP for clean-up and editing. Those lessons would be applicable to any sort of software that generates line art. The registration fee has not yet been set (I'm not in charge of that; it's handled by the company running the event), but if you have any interest I'll send you the info when it's available.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483

    I haven't had a second to work on that comic page again... hopefully in a few days! In the meantime, I was asked to create a marketing piece that showcases some of the styles with which I frequently work. So, two questions:

    1. Do you think this is a fair representation of my work?
    2. Does it make you want to learn more about how I created them using Poser and Clip Studio Paint?

  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,543
    mmitchell_houston said:

    I haven't had a second to work on that comic page again... hopefully in a few days! In the meantime, I was asked to create a marketing piece that showcases some of the styles with which I frequently work. So, two questions:

    1. Do you think this is a fair representation of my work?
    2. Does it make you want to learn more about how I created them using Poser and Clip Studio Paint?

    Yes and yes.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    edited January 2020
    tkdrobert said:
    mmitchell_houston said:

    I haven't had a second to work on that comic page again... hopefully in a few days! In the meantime, I was asked to create a marketing piece that showcases some of the styles with which I frequently work. So, two questions:

    1. Do you think this is a fair representation of my work?
    2. Does it make you want to learn more about how I created them using Poser and Clip Studio Paint?

    Yes and yes.

    Thanks, man! I whipped this up very quickly because I was under a tight, tight deadline (I did it last night and the promo email went out this morning). Fortunately, the promoter chose the four-panel version:

    And, if anyone is interested, this is to promote a class I'm teaching for Digital Art Live: Create a Signature Line Art Style with Poser. I'm not going to shill for the class (it's paid, not free), but if anybody is interested it's on Feb. 16, 2020, so if you want info please PM me and I'll send you the link to the page. 

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  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483

    So, for no reason other than I could do it, here's the old (and I do mean OLD) Poser 4 male figure: aka THE DORK. I've run him through my illustration process to demonstrate that even older figures can be used to create comic book style art. No, I don't think he'll be the star of my next comic, but I do think I'll continue to use him in the background.  So, any thoughts or reactions to see this old guy step back out of the shadows?

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,403

    Rainbow clouds.

  • Faux2DFaux2D Posts: 452

    3Delight

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  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    fuzzums_wuzzums_b2d044dcdb said:

    3Delight

    I find your 3D to be delightful. HAH.

    Very cool treatment. Kinda reminds me of a mash-up of Vaughn Bode, Robert Crumb and Frank Frazetta (all of whom "liked big butts and they cannot lie"). I like the two tones of the shadows and the interesting, angled outlines of the body.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    scorpio said:

    Rainbow clouds.

    There is something magical about this piece that is enhanced by keeping us at a distance. I'm almost losing the yellow ropes on the bridge, but when they do pop against the clouds it enhances the mystic quality. Nice watercolor effect in the clouds and on the lower part of the tree. How did you achieve this look?

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483

    A little more sci-fi for my portfolio. What do you guys think of the spot of blue color inside the cockpit? Nice touch or unnecessary?

  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,543
    mmitchell_houston said:

    A little more sci-fi for my portfolio. What do you guys think of the spot of blue color inside the cockpit? Nice touch or unnecessary?

    Looks good.  I like the blue.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,403
    mmitchell_houston said:
    scorpio said:

    Rainbow clouds.

    There is something magical about this piece that is enhanced by keeping us at a distance. I'm almost losing the yellow ropes on the bridge, but when they do pop against the clouds it enhances the mystic quality. Nice watercolor effect in the clouds and on the lower part of the tree. How did you achieve this look?

    Thank you.

    I use DAP for some postwork, often putting the image through sa few filers and combining them.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    scorpio said:
    mmitchell_houston said:
    scorpio said:

    Rainbow clouds.

    There is something magical about this piece that is enhanced by keeping us at a distance. I'm almost losing the yellow ropes on the bridge, but when they do pop against the clouds it enhances the mystic quality. Nice watercolor effect in the clouds and on the lower part of the tree. How did you achieve this look?

    Thank you.

    I use DAP for some postwork, often putting the image through sa few filers and combining them.

    I'm not familiar with DAP. What is it?

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483

    BTW, I updated the space image – there is now a shadow across the rings.

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  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483

    BTW, I updated the space image – there is now a shadow across the rings. The odd thing is, to me, the angle looks a bit off. But it is technically correct based on the lighting. I tried moving it around and adusting it, but I never could get it to look better, so I  decided to just leave it as is.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,403
    mmitchell_houston said:
    scorpio said:
    mmitchell_houston said:
    scorpio said:

    Rainbow clouds.

    There is something magical about this piece that is enhanced by keeping us at a distance. I'm almost losing the yellow ropes on the bridge, but when they do pop against the clouds it enhances the mystic quality. Nice watercolor effect in the clouds and on the lower part of the tree. How did you achieve this look?

    Thank you.

    I use DAP for some postwork, often putting the image through sa few filers and combining them.

    I'm not familiar with DAP. What is it?

    This,

    https://www.mediachance.com/dap/

    its just a selection of filters, rather nice ones though; I finally caved and bought it a few months ago and haven't regretted it.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    scorpio said:
    mmitchell_houston said:
    scorpio said:
    mmitchell_houston said:
    scorpio said:

    Rainbow clouds.

    There is something magical about this piece that is enhanced by keeping us at a distance. I'm almost losing the yellow ropes on the bridge, but when they do pop against the clouds it enhances the mystic quality. Nice watercolor effect in the clouds and on the lower part of the tree. How did you achieve this look?

    Thank you.

    I use DAP for some postwork, often putting the image through sa few filers and combining them.

    I'm not familiar with DAP. What is it?

    This,

    https://www.mediachance.com/dap/

    its just a selection of filters, rather nice ones though; I finally caved and bought it a few months ago and haven't regretted it.

    Cool. Looks very similar in scope and execution to Topaz Labs' artistic filters: https://topazlabs.com/

  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,543

    Gundam00

    Gundam00 (Toon) by tkdrobert

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483

    The video to promote my class has gone live. I would love to hear some feedback on whether you guys think it works as a teaser for a class (although i've done many videos before, this is the first time I've made something quite like this).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpiStbw3sS0

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483

    In case my previous post gets killed by the admins because it links to a YouTube video, I'm also listing it this way. Please go to youTube and search for this title:

    Create a Signature Line Art Style with Poser Class Promo

     

    I will not be able to make any changes to this video, but if you have any suggestions for future efforts, I'd be grateful.

     

     

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,483
    tkdrobert said:

    Gundam00

    Gundam00 (Toon) by tkdrobert

    Very cool work on the body. You really have gotten your linework down pat. Very solid and uniform. I'm also really impressed with that yellow/orange swirling explosion thing. That has a nice, fresh look to it.

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