*sigh* I SO wished my Smart Content WORKED! UGH
MKeyes
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I hate so much that Smart Content does NOT work no matter what. It hasn't worked since back in the 4.0s period. Two friends and on a few other forums there are various ones with the exact same issue.
I've tried EVERYTHING it would seem... and still.... NO Smart Content. I've tried mentally blocking it because in truth, I can still get to all of my content just fine... however... I ENJOYED seeing my smart content there, it HELPED to stir my imagination with some of the art ideas I would begin.
My muse is iffy of late - and having that back, MIGHT help. Does anyone have a clue of WHY it happens? What causes it to BREAK and not work anymore?
I WANT it to work again... but I just can't get it to.
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Usually nothing showing up in Smart Content is caused by the CMS stopping for some reason. Try restarting it and seeing if that fixes it.
Not sure why the CMS occasionally decides to go on strike. I have never had it happen but I've seen plenty of others where it does.
I've done that from the start menu and from the Task Manager after hitting Ctrl+alt+Delete - in every instance, I've done that over and over, got it started - then opened Daz Studio... and no Smart Content.
Someone said it might be my Avast anti-virus - well, my friend uses Microsoft anti-virus, hers won't come in either. There is another person using Norton - same thing. So - IF it is the anti-virus - I don't see a way around that.
All I know is that I WANT it BACK. I miss it. Seriously SAD face here... :-(
Okay, I just tried it again. I did it from the start menu... and then I decided to go in via; Ctrl+Alt++Delete - and go directly Task Manager and then to the services tab, and then clicking it once it's open. Went down to Daz Content Manager, clicked to "Start" service and this popped up. THIS is the FIRST time I got this message... anyone know what this means?
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"Windows could not start the Daz Content Management Service on local computer.
Error 1053: The service did not respond to the start or control request in a timely fashion"
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Soon as I complete this post, I'm going to look it up.
My Smart Content does not work either work (it did with the original DS4.0 but not any more) It's definitely not an anti-virus issue as my Art / Music production PC has no internet connection and therefor no anti virus software. (PC runs so much faster without)
What I don't understand is, why isn't this issue being addressed? I don't believe it's just that some computers have issues. Because it worked fine in the 4.0s.... but now... nothing.
Something has gone wrong, I sure wish Daz3d would address the matter and find the fix.
What I don't understand is, why isn't this issue being addressed? I don't believe it's just that some computers have issues. Because it worked fine in the 4.0s.... but now... nothing.
Something has gone wrong, I sure wish Daz3d would address the matter and find the fix.
The problem is that it's not everyone, from what I can see it's not even the majority. Since there's no really easy way for them to get all of the possible information about what's on all of the systems that have this issue it's going to be even harder to isolate and fix.
Like I said, I've never had this problem but I've seen enough posts about to realize that some do - though for most just starting the CMS seems to fix it. Still, I understand how when it's happening to you it's maddening that it's not getting fixed.
Ok what haven't you tried. That is what we should be looking at. But frist what have you tried?
Can I ask everytime you upgaded Daz Studio did you uninstall CMS first va the Control Panel in Windows? I started doing that in the eary days of 4.0 as I was getting CMS problems and since I starting uninstalling CMS everytime I upgraded Daz Studio CMS has never failed me, not once.
Add another to the list of people who can not get the smart content to work. I've tried everything and nothing seems to work.
One thing to Note folks, ALL OS's have built in Address Call logs. So if the CMS is calling a PORT the OS is using then the CMS will time out. Also most OS's have some form of PORT protection, if a call is placed to a PORT the OS never expected to be called FROM the PC it can be blocked. This can Happen even without a AV running.
No, I must admit, that I haven't uninstalled it everytime - but I believe I did so this time, with this version, hoping and praying that it would work. Of course, it did not, because still, my Smart Content is empty.
I do believe this is the cause, but how to fix it? I googled the above what I wrote about the error message, 1053 - and it said something about a Microsoft patch thingy... excuse me for not being more IT exact in what this stuff is called, but I don't feel like looking for it at this moment while I post.
In any case, I tried to run it, and got that ugly sounding "Twang" that told me could not be installed because something is missing to do with the program. UGGGH! Anyway... nothings working.
Same thing here - CMS not working properly (if at all).
Everything was working fine (DS 4.5 (64 bit), WIN 7 home) and one day my CMS started to fail with no obvious reason (at least not obvious for me).
Recently I got a new computer. So, fresh install (WIN 7 prof, DS 4.6), starting to install my content via DIM, check DS after installing a few items: everything seems to work.
Continue installing my stuff, check: a very few items in the smart content (much, much less than have been on my old computer, when everything worked).
Tried the proposed fixes like resetting data base and re-importing and now the CMS (in most times) does not start when starting DS. And when starting CMS before DS, there is no smart content (apart from a few shaders) and the search function does not work.
Rather frustrating.
This is the thing, very close friend lives in Palm Springs, Ca. she bought a brand new Alienware computer, installed her usual things on it and put on it the new DS 4.6 Pro and loaded her content via the loader... but NO Smart Content, I walked her through all the stuff to do that I used to do that worked to get it running IF it wasn't on.
Nothing has worked, she has no Smart Content.
I MISS this part of Daz Studio... I got attached to it in 4.0 - it stimulated my muse and made my work flow so much easier... and not since 4.0 has it worked for me. I try not to think about it, I mean, I don't NEED it in truth. I can still find all of my stuff.
But...*sigh* I keep hoping everytime I post this, and this will be the third I've started I believe, I keep hoping someone KNOWS what it is and can help me get it started again.
:(
The only thing I've not seen suggested (I didn't check really) is to Delete the CMS database and then see if CMS runs. You would need to re-import all the metadata but a corrupted database can and will kill the CMS. That's the only other thing I know to try.
And Szark is 100% dead on. If you never un-installed the CMS when you upgraded DS the CMS is the OLD version and buggy. You can try this. Just open the CMS folder and do Un-install, then delete all the CMS folders off your PC. Hunt the AppData folder on your PC (it's a hidden folder so you will need to set folder view to show hidden) and then Delete all the CMS folders from it also. Then just install DS again. It will just over write the one installed now and change nothing except add the Updated CMS.
Everyone is saying they have tried everything but when I ask to make sure they have tried everything so we can try to help more no one is bothered to say.
How does a database become corrupted in the first place? It's crazy! All of my runtimes contain materials or content from Renderosity, RuntimeDNA, freebie files and of course, my Daz Studio content. I don't even have half of the stuff I used to have, I left out ALL of my Generation 3 content... and that was a lot of stuff.
Anyway, I can't imagine what could cause this. I share my runtime between Poser and Daz Studio. EVERYTHING NEW gets installed here...
C:\Users\pc\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library - and I simply open Poser and added it to it.
From older content, I also have M4-F4 runtimes, V4SpA runtimes, Building runtimes, Animal runtimes, Fantasy & Historical runtimes and Kids4 runtime.
Each of them are set up to easily locate in Daz Studio and Poser.
As for my computer system, it's a PC, Win 7, AMD Bulldozer Six core, 64bit, 16gb ram, 1tr drive, Radeon HD 6650 1Gb graphics card...
I can tell you this... next year, I'm biting the bullet and getting myself an Apple IMac all-in-one with the above specs. I'm saving up for it now, OR I pray for a best seller to put that baby in my lap. I'll never totally desert PCs... I'm too accustomed to them, but I'm going to add Apple to this desk as an alternative. One for writing and web design, the other for 3D works...
Anywa-a-a-ay - I get a feeling, I'm going to have to LIVE WITH not having the Smart Content... having said that, I'm going to hit the locations and clean out empty folders, and other things that might be within causing this break to SC.
The CMS database only holds items that Have Metadata, and ALL Databases can go bad from just one hick up during a Read or a right to them.
Yeah... I get it. It's too big to fix at this stage. It is one of those things that I have to give up with. I'm still going to try and clean out all the files, but that's going to take a while, because like everyone else on here, I'm busy and need to focus on priorities.
Besides that, I'm starting to use Poser Pro 2014 now more and more - and there is no Smart Content for it. So I just need to let it go. I don't have half the problems of some - after all... I've finally adapted to using BOTH of these wonderful programs... so I get the best of both worlds, heehee - so not being able to use SC is not really that bad.
Thanks everyone for coming in a trying, speaking up about it. It is what it is... Thank goodness it doesn't block us from our content.
Cheers...
No, I think you still don't understand. The CMS ONLY holds metadata. You can delete its databases and all your content remains intact. If you manually created product metadata for your Rendo content, etc, that will reload. Otherwise, those products won't show up in Smart Content anyway
I had this very problem, and deleting and rebuilding my CMS database fixed it.
I'm sorry I haven't a CLUE of how to go about doing that. Last time I uninstalled the CMS - Daz Studio wouldn't open. I had to uninstall it and then reinstall everything.
Your explanation may have well been in Greek, I assure you - I don't speak it, lmbo... without a break down of what you mean and how to get about doing it, it's of little consequence to someone with my limited knowledge in that.
As for my Rendo & RDNA items, I don't expect them to show up in the Smart Content, only things I wanted showing up was my Daz3d content via the database, I fully get that. It's how it was before.
But currently, I have NOTHING showing up. And what you're explaining, as I stated, I do not comprehend, seriously. I've tried various things like that, and no doubt, because I either didn't do it right and thus it was ineffective... stuff pertaining to this, has to be explained in extreme laymen's terms, for instance,
1.) Go here (exactly) - look for this, (exactly)...
2.) Open this, (what? exactly)...
3.) Delete this, (exactly what that is)...
Yadda yadda yadda... and if your time is like mine... I wouldn't have the NERVE to ask you to write that out, breaking it down for me that way. Like I said... it's not an absolute NEED... it's just really nice to have. I believe what you did work... but I haven't a CLUE of how to get there and do the same. I try it - I'll jack up my entire system and then be in a right mess.
Thanks though... but my noodle does not click the light-bulb on and off for me surrounding that.
Hi
I posted some steps in another thread which may help as well as some user found out that the files could be hidden.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/24747/
Oh thank you for this... I'll see if I can work it out. Cheers!
Hmmm... Uninstalled CMS, deleted the database files, re-installed and re-imported the meta-data.
No smart content, nor search results in the content library, can't create categories... nothing.
:(
Is the CMS Service running?
Ah, that little bugger is stopped. If I try to start it, it shuts down immediately (Error 10035)...
Restart your CMS service and check Windows Event Log to see if there is an indication of the problem
Also go to your CMS folder (the one containing the database folder). There is a directory called vlogs there. Check the latest log for informations
When trying to start the Service from the task manager's "Service Panel", I get an Error 10035
Windows Event-Log shows this:
Event Details
Product: Windows Operating System
ID: 7024
Source: Service Control Manager
Version: 6.1
Symbolic Name: EVENT_SERVICE_EXIT_FAILED_SPECIFIC
Message: The %1 service terminated with service-specific error %2.
CMS log:
Tue Jul 23 2013 17:29:41.176000 (TID 4664): ERROR 0x3: Cannot open 'master' database
Tue Jul 23 2013 17:29:41.176000 (TID 4664): Server terminated
That the cms cannot open the "master database" is quite understandable, as there is absolutely no database in the folder named "database"...
;o)
Ok
The problem is there. When reinstalling CMS the database should be created. If not then there is a problem. It could be a permission problem
So try to deinstall CMS and Daz studio then reinstall again and check if it is created or not
I've lost my DAZ smart content in the past also. What I've done which has worked is gone to the Content Database Maintenance window (click on Content Library tab, then the little paragraph looking button near the top that allows you to display the "active pane options."
Then I Reset Database. When that finishes, I Re-Import the Metadata. Afterward, I Process Metadata Queue.
I do each item separately, because I noticed if I click multiple options nothing or little happens.
Good luck.
This will usually work. I did have one time when I had to stop CMS, uninstall, go through and manually delete files, reinstall, and re-import metadata, but for the most part the above procedure is enough.
As for why the database gets corrupted... I have no idea. DAZ did switch to a new version of the database software with 4.6 which should be more stable, if you can get existing corruption issues resolved to get it working.