DAZ Studio Pro 4.6.1.17 General Release, Now Available!

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  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,644
    edited December 1969

    I had installation of the CMS fail on both this machine (all default install paths, DIM install) and on my main workhorse desktop (nonstandard install location, no DIM, no internet connection). Otherwise the program installed fine and is working great. The improvements to properties/hierarchy management are great.


    Since I never actually use metadata this doesn't inconvenience me personally, but if in future DAZ decides we have to, this might prove a problem.

  • SLoTH_XVXSLoTH_XVX Posts: 199
    edited October 2013

    I may have missed something somewhere but every time I attempt to use Female Genisis2 I only get a cube form of the figure and an error notification...

    The error window reads as follows:
    Missing Files
    Some assets needed to load the file were missing. The content may not work as expected.
    The following files could not be found.
    /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis2Female.dsf

    But the file is EXACTLY where it is supposed to be (where it is listed above).

    Before someone suggest that I change the "Draw Style Options" from Bounding Box to another setting it doesn't make a difference...still getting cubes. :down:

    H E L P

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652
    edited October 2013

    Reality 2.5 was broken with the beta has this been rectified?

    Post edited by Bobvan on
  • SLoTH_XVXSLoTH_XVX Posts: 199
    edited October 2013

    ....Genesis2 (Cube) Female doesn't render either.

    Maybe this is a vampire morph I am not aware of?

    I would assume that I am the only one have this issue....???

    M4 loads and renders fine....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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  • rbtwhizrbtwhiz Posts: 2,280
    edited December 1969

    SLoTH_XVX said:
    I may have missed something somewhere but every time I attempt to use Female Genisis2 I only get a cube form of the figure and an error notification...

    The error window reads as follows:
    Missing Files
    Some assets needed to load the file were missing. The content may not work as expected.
    The following files could not be found.
    /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis2Female.dsf

    But the file is EXACTLY where it is supposed to be (where it is listed above).

    Before someone suggest that I change the "Draw Style Options" from Bounding Box to another setting it doesn't make a difference...still getting cubes. :down:

    H E L P

    Is the portion of the path before "/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis2Female.dsf" mapped as a DAZ Studio content directory? The General Release and the Public Build (Beta) do not share settings, so you'll want to be sure the base folder that contains that file is mapped in this version.

    -Rob

  • DAZ_cjonesDAZ_cjones Posts: 637
    edited December 1969

    Bobvan said:
    Reality 2.5 was broken with the beta has this been rectified?

    The individual that reported that bug says that it was fixed.

  • rbtwhizrbtwhiz Posts: 2,280
    edited December 1969

    Bobvan said:
    Reality 2.5 was broken with the beta has this been rectified?

    Change Log : Do a page search for "reality"... build 4.6.1.7.

    -Rob

  • SLoTH_XVXSLoTH_XVX Posts: 199
    edited December 1969

    rbtwhiz said:
    SLoTH_XVX said:
    I may have missed something somewhere but every time I attempt to use Female Genisis2 I only get a cube form of the figure and an error notification...

    The error window reads as follows:
    Missing Files
    Some assets needed to load the file were missing. The content may not work as expected.
    The following files could not be found.
    /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis2Female.dsf

    But the file is EXACTLY where it is supposed to be (where it is listed above).

    Before someone suggest that I change the "Draw Style Options" from Bounding Box to another setting it doesn't make a difference...still getting cubes. :down:

    H E L P

    Is the portion of the path before "/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis2Female.dsf" mapped as a DAZ Studio content directory? The General Release and the Public Build (Beta) do not share settings, so you'll want to be sure the base folder that contains that file is mapped in this version.

    -Rob

    ....eeeerrr....I think so....

    C:\Users\\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\Content\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 2\Female\Genesis2Female.dsf

  • DAZ_cjonesDAZ_cjones Posts: 637
    edited December 1969

    SLoTH_XVX said:
    rbtwhiz said:
    SLoTH_XVX said:
    I may have missed something somewhere but every time I attempt to use Female Genisis2 I only get a cube form of the figure and an error notification...

    The error window reads as follows:
    Missing Files
    Some assets needed to load the file were missing. The content may not work as expected.
    The following files could not be found.
    /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis2Female.dsf

    But the file is EXACTLY where it is supposed to be (where it is listed above).

    Before someone suggest that I change the "Draw Style Options" from Bounding Box to another setting it doesn't make a difference...still getting cubes. :down:

    H E L P

    Is the portion of the path before "/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis2Female.dsf" mapped as a DAZ Studio content directory? The General Release and the Public Build (Beta) do not share settings, so you'll want to be sure the base folder that contains that file is mapped in this version.

    -Rob

    ....eeeerrr....I think so....

    C:\Users\\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\Content\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 2\Female\Genesis2Female.dsf

    You have a Content folder under my Library? That shouldn't be there.

  • SLoTH_XVXSLoTH_XVX Posts: 199
    edited December 1969

    Ok, where should it be? The file set-up of Studio still confuses me....I have bounced back and forth between Studio and Carrara over the years and (right now) the only file path set-up that makes sense to me is the Poser paths...and I don't even use Poser.

    I save/set-up my runtimes on external drives currently and the set-up for Genesis boggles my mind.

  • DAZ_cjonesDAZ_cjones Posts: 637
    edited December 1969

    SLoTH_XVX said:
    Ok, where should it be? The file set-up of Studio still confuses me....I have bounced back and forth between Studio and Carrara over the years and (right now) the only file path set-up that makes sense to me is the Poser paths...and I don't even use Poser.

    I save/set-up my runtimes on external drives currently and the set-up for Genesis boggles my mind.

    the standard path would be:
    C:\Users\\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 2\Female\Genesis2Female.dsf

    you could have the path you specified but then you would need to map:
    C:\Users\\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\Content
    but that can get very confusing.

    The folder name content shouldn't exist anymore. It can for legacy reasons be there but then it needs to be the folder that is mapped.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,252
    edited December 1969

    The DIM zips do contain a Content folder - you need to take the files and folders from that and place them in your actual content directory, which is either the My Library folder in your Documents or the My DAZ 3D Library in Public Documents by default.

  • SLoTH_XVXSLoTH_XVX Posts: 199
    edited December 1969

    OK, so let me run this back...

    The Content folder is essentially obsolete and everything should NOW go into the My Library folder....correct?

  • DAZ_cjonesDAZ_cjones Posts: 637
    edited December 1969

    SLoTH_XVX said:
    OK, so let me run this back...

    The Content folder is essentially obsolete and everything should NOW go into the My Library folder....correct?

    Correct. If you had pointed DIM to the My Library folder and told it to install there, that's exactly what it would do. So if you are doing it manually that is the correct procedure.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,598
    edited December 1969

    SLoTH_XVX said:
    OK, so let me run this back...

    The Content folder is essentially obsolete and everything should NOW go into the My Library folder....correct?

    It can be called "My Library" or "Content", but not "My Library/Content".

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652
    edited December 1969

    Bobvan said:
    Reality 2.5 was broken with the beta has this been rectified?

    The individual that reported that bug says that it was fixed.


    Right on worse case I do have the current installer

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    edited December 1969

    SLoTH_XVX said:
    The Content folder is essentially obsolete and everything should NOW go into the My Library folder....correct?

    Sort of. Problem is, the "content folder" isn't "the folder named Content", it's "the folder of indeterminate name containing the content files". This has confused a lot of people ever since the name of the content folder was changed from "Content" to "My Library" and moved from the D|S program folder to the My Documents folder.

    It's not that the old folder is obsolete, its default name (which can be changed) was changed. The important thing is that, as long as the D|S and DIM content location settings agree (this is not automatic, the two programs don't talk to each other), and also point to where you actually want the content to be installed (getting this one wrong is, unfortunately, easier than it should be), you should be OK.

  • SLoTH_XVXSLoTH_XVX Posts: 199
    edited December 1969

    SLoTH_XVX said:
    The Content folder is essentially obsolete and everything should NOW go into the My Library folder....correct?

    Sort of. Problem is, the "content folder" isn't "the folder named Content", it's "the folder of indeterminate name containing the content files". This has confused a lot of people ever since the name of the content folder was changed from "Content" to "My Library" and moved from the D|S program folder to the My Documents folder.

    It's not that the old folder is obsolete, its default name (which can be changed) was changed. The important thing is that, as long as the D|S and DIM content location settings agree (this is not automatic, the two programs don't talk to each other), and also point to where you actually want the content to be installed (getting this one wrong is, unfortunately, easier than it should be), you should be OK.

    Forgive me but I have been out of the mix for a little while....what is DIM Content?

    Will this 'new' DAZtasic way of setting up content 'render' (no pun intended) my library of file on my external drive(s) to be useless? Will I need to move them to the My Library folder on my C Drive?

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,598
    edited December 1969

    SLoTH_XVX said:
    SLoTH_XVX said:
    The Content folder is essentially obsolete and everything should NOW go into the My Library folder....correct?

    Sort of. Problem is, the "content folder" isn't "the folder named Content", it's "the folder of indeterminate name containing the content files". This has confused a lot of people ever since the name of the content folder was changed from "Content" to "My Library" and moved from the D|S program folder to the My Documents folder.

    It's not that the old folder is obsolete, its default name (which can be changed) was changed. The important thing is that, as long as the D|S and DIM content location settings agree (this is not automatic, the two programs don't talk to each other), and also point to where you actually want the content to be installed (getting this one wrong is, unfortunately, easier than it should be), you should be OK.

    Forgive me but I have been out of the mix for a little while....what is DIM Content?

    Will this 'new' DAZtasic way of setting up content 'render' (no pun intended) my library of file on my external drive(s) to be useless? Will I need to move them to the My Library folder on my C Drive?

    No, the same folders and organization as before are fine. The DAZ3D Install Manager has a different default location than the old DS4 location, but you can change it. The only thing to be careful of is IF you install the zips manually, you want to make sure you don't get a folder named "Content" inside your actual content folder.

  • Bobeagle77Bobeagle77 Posts: 164
    edited December 1969

    I been playing around with the new Daz Studios Pro 4.6.1.17 patch and I love my Daz even more. Thank you very much Daz Studios and everyone involve, making patch possible. :lol:.

  • DAZ_cjonesDAZ_cjones Posts: 637
    edited October 2013

    SLoTH_XVX said:
    SLoTH_XVX said:
    The Content folder is essentially obsolete and everything should NOW go into the My Library folder....correct?

    Sort of. Problem is, the "content folder" isn't "the folder named Content", it's "the folder of indeterminate name containing the content files". This has confused a lot of people ever since the name of the content folder was changed from "Content" to "My Library" and moved from the D|S program folder to the My Documents folder.

    It's not that the old folder is obsolete, its default name (which can be changed) was changed. The important thing is that, as long as the D|S and DIM content location settings agree (this is not automatic, the two programs don't talk to each other), and also point to where you actually want the content to be installed (getting this one wrong is, unfortunately, easier than it should be), you should be OK.

    Forgive me but I have been out of the mix for a little while....what is DIM Content?

    This early this year DAZ moved its products over to be zip files instead of the installers. To make downloading/installing these zips easier to use they also released DAZ Install Manager. The zips became known as DIM zips/content because they were designed for use with the DAZ Install Manager.

    Post edited by DAZ_cjones on
  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,997
    edited December 1969

    rbtwhiz said:
    SimonJM said:
    Installing via DIM still puts the files were the DIM wants to, not over the top of the existing install. I suspect I'll need the 'old trick' of installing the standalone exe and persuading DIM that it's really there :)

    Install Manager has no knowledge of that which it did not install. It never has and we have never claimed otherwise. In fact we have been very transparent about this, quite intentionally, from the very beginning. There is simply far too much variability in what has been done to/with files for Install Manager to produce a consistent/reliable experience for them.

    It should go without saying, but I will anyway, that any "trick" to "persuade" Install Manager to behave in a manner other than it was designed to is not guaranteed to yield the result you are after. The application was designed to function in a particular way. A way that produces a consistent and reliable experience. Those attempting to be clever should [inherently] understand that they are responsible for their results... both desired and otherwise.

    Install Manager allows you to specify the base path(s) for the applications it installs; one for 32-bit applications and one for 64-bit applications; Settings (cog icon, upper right corner) > Installation page. Each application package is then responsible for providing it's own relative path that Install Manager will append to said base path(s). That relative path is plainly visible from the "Ready to Install" page, using the "Show Package Files..." action in the context menu (right-click) and option menu (far right arrow) of every single package. Those two very basic, very simple, things (i.e. base path and relative path) are what determine where Install Manager will install the files of any given application. There is no "trickery" involved.

    Often times an application is dependent on the existence of supporting libraries and/or configuration files which need to install to specific areas of your computer (as determined by the operating system and/or library provider), so the package will include those as well. And like the application files listed in the "Package Files" dialog mentioned above, so too are these system dependent relative paths.

    In so much as a particular application is supported by Install Manager, when an application is installed by Install Manager an entry for that application (version and bit architecture specific) is added to the Settings >Applications page, for the current account. This entry is then used by application dependent extension packages (i.e. plugins, shaders, content that installs like a plugin, etc.) to know where to install to. If you did not use Install Manager to install an application, and you haven't manually added said application (version and bit architecture dependent) to the list, Install Manager does not know where it should install those types of packages. If you are going to mix installation methods (i.e. standalone installer for the application and Install Manager for add-ons), you will need to become familiar with how this works because the application cannot do it for you (as it does when you just use Install Manager).

    -Rob
    No worries and no suggestion of anything tricksy or untoward ta the DAZ end was intended! I could have sworn that at some stage on trying a test install and dealing with the install path automatically entered by DIM into it's own configuration I ended up with what I wanted - including, apparently, DIM seeming to agree that Daz Studio was installed. Quite how I did that I am not sure but I seem to recall much cursing (important part of the process, that!) and (un/de)-installing via DIM and by standalone exe.
    I understand the issues involved with installing via different methods, and so long as it all continues to work as I wish I am happy :)

  • SLoTH_XVXSLoTH_XVX Posts: 199
    edited December 1969

    SLoTH_XVX said:
    SLoTH_XVX said:
    The Content folder is essentially obsolete and everything should NOW go into the My Library folder....correct?

    Sort of. Problem is, the "content folder" isn't "the folder named Content", it's "the folder of indeterminate name containing the content files". This has confused a lot of people ever since the name of the content folder was changed from "Content" to "My Library" and moved from the D|S program folder to the My Documents folder.

    It's not that the old folder is obsolete, its default name (which can be changed) was changed. The important thing is that, as long as the D|S and DIM content location settings agree (this is not automatic, the two programs don't talk to each other), and also point to where you actually want the content to be installed (getting this one wrong is, unfortunately, easier than it should be), you should be OK.

    Forgive me but I have been out of the mix for a little while....what is DIM Content?

    This early this year DAZ moved its products over to be zip files instead of the installers. To make downloading/installing these zips easier to use they also released DAZ Install Manager. The zips became known as DIM zips/content because they were designed for use with the DAZ Install Manager.

    Thanks jones, sounds like it wouldn't effect me because I manually place and organize all my files.

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited October 2013

    CMS

    Something was fixed. Metadata seems to go into the CMS okay again since latest 4.6. No errors in log and newest entries in Content Library are showing in blue. Metadata hasn't been working for a long time for me but I didn't realize/think about it/look into it (don't use Smart Content) until just the other day when I noticed DIM logfile was filled with CMS errors.

    I supposed I should rectify this. Can someone tell me the steps to get the missing metadata in there. I assume a database reset and reimport of all metadata (tons of it) but do I have to reinstall CMS and if so, how?

    (I'm missing months which includes most of the sales this year)

    Further editing:

    What would happen if I simply reset the database and didn't bother repopulating it?

    Post edited by Spit on
  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited December 1969

    I won't mention where, but I followed a law blog link and what should be on the page's screen but a giant ad for DAZ Studio 4.6!! (via google's ad thingy). Left that page but came back later to recheck something. The page ad was something else but right in front of me in the right hand column was another ad for DAZ Studio 4.6.

    First time I've loved seeing ads on a page!!

  • BackDoor3DBackDoor3D Posts: 160
    edited December 1969

    Problem with the "Open Recent"..

    Quote:

    15) Added an “Open Recent” submenu to the File menu; lists recently opened/saved scene files. The menus need to be rebuilt for this option to appear; applying a default layout, or importing the Default Advanced menus will cause menus to be rebuilt.

    Only works if you do not have a custom "Style" with custom icons (Custom Actions) added to your interface as I have.

    Selecting a new layout or style works.....but not with a named, saved style of your own.

    I can live without this, but would be nice to have....! Not bitching......Love DAZ Studio....

    Stiks

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited October 2013

    Stiks1954 said:
    Problem with the "Open Recent"..

    Quote:

    15) Added an “Open Recent” submenu to the File menu; lists recently opened/saved scene files. The menus need to be rebuilt for this option to appear; applying a default layout, or importing the Default Advanced menus will cause menus to be rebuilt.

    Only works if you do not have a custom "Style" with custom icons (Custom Actions) added to your interface as I have.

    Selecting a new layout or style works.....but not with a named, saved style of your own.

    I can live without this, but would be nice to have....! Not bitching......Love DAZ Studio....

    Stiks


    Yep. You have to reapply the default for it to show up. Time to start recustomizing. At least custom scripts/actions remain and it's easy enough to create menus and drag 'em back over in the customization panel.
    Post edited by Lissa_xyz on
  • BackDoor3DBackDoor3D Posts: 160
    edited December 1969

    Mmmm, might have been nice if that han been explained in the initial....lol "readme"....more lol

    In my experience, documentation written by programmers will almost certainly be "sparse, convoluted and to the end user ignominious downfall"!

    I know this, because I am one!......more LOL

    And while we are on the subject.....why should I have to change my settings that I spent months, not only learning how to do, but to implement, change just because some spotty teenager programming the software says I should [No insult intended at actual persons here, just a metaphor].

  • Anubic DarqueAnubic Darque Posts: 13
    edited December 1969

    Well I installed the new update to Daz 4.6 and am loving it, Still works well, still lets me do my comic etc etc.

    I also installed the updated (well the DIM said it was updated) photoshop bridge.... Still not liking photoshop CC .. Dang it!

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited December 1969

    Vaskania said:

    Yep. You have to reapply the default for it to show up. Time to start recustomizing. At least custom scripts/actions remain and it's easy enough to create menus and drag 'em back over in the customization panel.

    I popped over to ask specifically about this which I just ran into. I exported my menus then loaded the default advanced and saw that it had all the scenes I'd saved since installation. Sweet.Then imported my menus after hunting around for the Customization command and discovered this. The entry for 'Open Recent' simply does not show up in Customization/Actions panel.

    Bummer.

    But I don't understand the last sentence--the one I bolded.

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