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who has Mike/Vicky on book cover? (shameless self promotions) share critiques

MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
edited March 2014 in The Commons

or Aiko? :)

all jazzed up on 3.50 from a kindle book sale.

feeling like filling up my pages with skimp wear renders. :lol: why not? there's a reason for buying the stuff, eh?

:lol:

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    I had Mike, dolled up as Shakespeare on some screen printed scarves and candles. Was a commission I did, a few years back, so probably a M3 Shakespeare.

  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    I use them frequently, though I sometimes find it hard to make them not look like 3D characters. Many people frown upon using 3D figures on book covers, unfortunately.

  • anikadanikad Posts: 1,919
    edited December 1969

    My issue with 3d renders on books covers is that a lot of them are poorly rendered. The artistswhen using human characters haven't bothered to pose or light them properly. Which doesn't make for great looking covers.

  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    anikad said:
    My issue with 3d renders on books covers is that a lot of them are poorly rendered. The artistswhen using human characters haven't bothered to pose or light them properly. Which doesn't make for great looking covers.

    Exactly. I think that's why they got such a bad reputation. I even know someone who was essentially selling his rendering services to authors, and he pretty much admitted that he was doing quick renders, and when I questioned him about the artistic quality of what he was offering, and I think he said that if he was doing art, he'd be using another medium. It p@ssed me off that he was trying to rip authors off, and I p@ssed him off enough that he had his thread removed and left.

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,980
    edited December 1969

    A friend has used some of my renders (Genesis-based) for his book covers, here, here and here plus one without a figure and one that started as V4, but is migrating to Genesis (or G2F). The first one I also did as a t-shirt on zazzle as a birthday present for him, and I did one for myself with Millennium Big Cat

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    i still have a posette cover out there :lol: layered over a bryce 3 background.

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,332
    edited December 1969

    I am not the author, but I do covers for this series available on Amazon:

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_12?url=search-alias=digital-text&field-keywords=brian dockins&sprefix=brian+dockin,aps,225&tag=donations09-20

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,286
    edited January 2014

    I've only been grappling with 3D programs for about 4 years and while I started using it for interior illustrations a couple of projects ago, I think 'Victory at Ostagar' was the first thing I've used human figures for the covers on.

    Of course, my own eBooks are not to the current paradigm, being graphically enriched, letter-sized .pdfs rather than the things produced by the software which is designed to produce files fit for handhelds. I've also been posting them since before most of the handhelds out there were available. They're also all fanfic posted on the web for free reading and/or download [redhen-publications dot com].

    I have done a number of book covers for print-on-demand publishers which have used 3D, but most of them have not used human figures. One or two have, though.

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  • SloshSlosh Posts: 2,391
    edited December 1969

    Yep, me too. I did a cover for a friend's novel (as well as typing the entire thing for her!). I used V4, IIRC. Might have been V3, I can't remember.

  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    This is the very first book cover I did using 3D characters

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  • ShaneWSmithShaneWSmith Posts: 636
    edited January 2014

    anikad said:
    My issue with 3d renders on books covers is that a lot of them are poorly rendered. The artistswhen using human characters haven't bothered to pose or light them properly. Which doesn't make for great looking covers.

    Agreed. When I decided to use 3D models for the artwork in my graphic novels, it took me months and months of self-directed learning and practice to develop a technique to overcome this look, and several more years to hone that technique to a standard I'm happy with.

    I even know someone who was essentially selling his rendering services to authors, and he pretty much admitted that he was doing quick renders, and when I questioned him about the artistic quality of what he was offering, and I think he said that if he was doing art, he'd be using another medium. It p@ssed me off that he was trying to rip authors off, and I p@ssed him off enough that he had his thread removed and left.

    Well, that's just upsetting... but there are hucksters in all industries, I suppose.


    And because you're offering shameless self-promotion:

    * A gallery of my graphic novel artwork
    * The first published book in my series, entitled The Lesser Evil.

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  • SloshSlosh Posts: 2,391
    edited December 1969

    Here is the one I did for my ex-wife's book.

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  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    canberra_boy said:
    Agreed. When I decided to use 3D models for the artwork in my graphic novels, it took me months and months of self-directed learning and practice to develop a technique to overcome this look, and several more years to hone that technique to a standard I'm happy with.

    Yeah, I'm still working to find the best techniques to accomplish that too.

  • 3WC3WC Posts: 1,107
    edited December 1969

    TheWheelMan said:
    This is the very first book cover I did using 3D characters

    This is really good....
    But is there a reason "scary" is spelled with an "i"?

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,980
    edited December 1969

    wwes said:
    TheWheelMan said:
    This is the very first book cover I did using 3D characters

    This is really good....
    But is there a reason "scary" is spelled with an "i"?
    That would be a play on words, from fAIry tales to scAIry tales ... :)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    ever use M's hip pose? :)

    i'm tempted to do it as an insider joke.

  • 3WC3WC Posts: 1,107
    edited December 1969

    SimonJM said:
    wwes said:
    TheWheelMan said:
    This is the very first book cover I did using 3D characters

    This is really good....
    But is there a reason "scary" is spelled with an "i"?


    That would be a play on words, from fAIry tales to scAIry tales ... :)

    D'OH! (headslap) I get it, very clever.

  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    SimonJM said:
    wwes said:
    TheWheelMan said:
    This is the very first book cover I did using 3D characters

    This is really good....
    But is there a reason "scary" is spelled with an "i"?


    That would be a play on words, from fAIry tales to scAIry tales ... :)

    I think you are the ONLY person who has ever gotten it! *lol*

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,980
    edited December 1969

    TheWheelMan said:
    I think you are the ONLY person who has ever gotten it! *lol*

    I love puns, much to the dismay of those who know me ... ;)

  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    SimonJM said:
    TheWheelMan said:
    I think you are the ONLY person who has ever gotten it! *lol*

    I love puns, much to the dismay of those who know me ... ;)

    Have you read any of the books by Piers Anthony?

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,980
    edited December 1969

    TheWheelMan said:
    SimonJM said:
    TheWheelMan said:
    I think you are the ONLY person who has ever gotten it! *lol*

    I love puns, much to the dismay of those who know me ... ;)

    Have you read any of the books by Piers Anthony?

    I read up to about number 12 or 13 of the Xanth series (which I guess are the ones you mean) and started getting a bit tired of the worn-out attempts to drag yet another pun out of the woodwork. I really could have been happy to end after number 4 or 5. Some of is other stuff (Sos the Rope, Var the Stick and Neq the Sword) is quite good, albeit minus the puns!

  • 3WC3WC Posts: 1,107
    edited December 1969

    Did someone say puns?
    How does the Millenium Big Cat sleep?
    LION DOWN, of course!

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,980
    edited December 1969

    wwes said:
    Did someone say puns?
    How does the Millenium Big Cat sleep?
    LION DOWN, of course!

    Now you're just being a cheetah! :)
  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    there was a Xanth DOS game, had to find the good magician humphrey

  • ReisormocapReisormocap Posts: 146
    edited December 1969

    I've used Daz with Genesis on one of my 1930s-era pulp hero book covers. I'm planning a lot more Daz covers and artwork over the coming year.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    after we have a couple of bestsellers with rendered covers, rendering will be more popular :lol:

  • Melissa ConwayMelissa Conway Posts: 590
    edited December 1969

    I just did this one for a good friend of mine.

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  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    SimonJM said:
    TheWheelMan said:
    SimonJM said:
    TheWheelMan said:
    I think you are the ONLY person who has ever gotten it! *lol*

    I love puns, much to the dismay of those who know me ... ;)

    Have you read any of the books by Piers Anthony?

    I read up to about number 12 or 13 of the Xanth series (which I guess are the ones you mean) and started getting a bit tired of the worn-out attempts to drag yet another pun out of the woodwork. I really could have been happy to end after number 4 or 5. Some of is other stuff (Sos the Rope, Var the Stick and Neq the Sword) is quite good, albeit minus the puns!

    The best way to read the Xanth novels is two or three at a time, because the puns do get old after a while.

    I had a friend who knew Mr. Anthony, and he reviewed my Phoenix Tales collection.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited March 2014

    is all the mm stuff, and like, M6, putting anyone into serious revisions? :lol:


    new desire to up the genre of rendered covers :)

    1st critique of covers in general, her face is too bland.

    can camera framing rule of thirds work in portraits?
    is it possible to crop a 16:9 ratio render to a 6"x9" cover without losing the arty-ness of it?

    hmmm

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    TheWheelMan said:
    I use them frequently, though I sometimes find it hard to make them not look like 3D characters. Many people frown upon using 3D figures on book covers, unfortunately.

    we can change that,! imho :)

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