The Marvelous Designer Thread

Gordig

barbult said:

Gordig said:

I haven't opened MD in a little while, but I think all you have to do to retopoligize is check the "retopologize" button. This will make it look more like the kind of mesh you'll typically see on a clothing item in the Daz store. Retopologizing in MD is dependent on the orientation of the different components in the 2D viewer.

Retopologize in MD is not a "push the button and you're done" kind of thing. Also, if you retopologize in MD, you lose all your seam welds and your exported dress will fall apart, unless you weld in another application. 

I suggest you try subdivision in Daz Studio (on your quadragnulated MD mesh). That will help quite a bit. Also look at the Geometry Editor command to rotate triangulation of selected polygons. Daz has produced a video tutorial about it.

Maybe it's just a matter of which version we're using, but it is in 9.5.

Before:

After:

JoJoS

Gordig said:

I haven't opened MD in a little while, but I think all you have to do to retopoligize is check the "retopologize" button. This will make it look more like the kind of mesh you'll typically see on a clothing item in the Daz store. Retopologizing in MD is dependent on the orientation of the different components in the 2D viewer.

I didn't even know that was an option! Thank you, now my problem is this: every time the characters hand touch the dress (hands on hips pose) the mesh explodes. It doesn't do this when I buy a dress and do the same thing, so what am I doing wrong?

JoJoS

Gordig said:

barbult said:

Gordig said:

I haven't opened MD in a little while, but I think all you have to do to retopoligize is check the "retopologize" button. This will make it look more like the kind of mesh you'll typically see on a clothing item in the Daz store. Retopologizing in MD is dependent on the orientation of the different components in the 2D viewer.

Retopologize in MD is not a "push the button and you're done" kind of thing. Also, if you retopologize in MD, you lose all your seam welds and your exported dress will fall apart, unless you weld in another application. 

I suggest you try subdivision in Daz Studio (on your quadragnulated MD mesh). That will help quite a bit. Also look at the Geometry Editor command to rotate triangulation of selected polygons. Daz has produced a video tutorial about it.

Maybe it's just a matter of which version we're using, but it is in 9.5.

Before:

After:

 

 

I'm using version 10 and I just had to right click in the 3d window and the option was there for me...infact I had two remeshing options lmao

barbult

Gordig said:

barbult said:

Gordig said:

I haven't opened MD in a little while, but I think all you have to do to retopoligize is check the "retopologize" button. This will make it look more like the kind of mesh you'll typically see on a clothing item in the Daz store. Retopologizing in MD is dependent on the orientation of the different components in the 2D viewer.

Retopologize in MD is not a "push the button and you're done" kind of thing. Also, if you retopologize in MD, you lose all your seam welds and your exported dress will fall apart, unless you weld in another application. 

I suggest you try subdivision in Daz Studio (on your quadragnulated MD mesh). That will help quite a bit. Also look at the Geometry Editor command to rotate triangulation of selected polygons. Daz has produced a video tutorial about it.

Maybe it's just a matter of which version we're using, but it is in 9.5.

Before:

After:

Looks great! How did you get between the "before" and "after"? You evidently know something I don't know. (Which is probably a lot!) Were you able to export your garment as OBJ and keep the retopologized seams welded?

Gordig

Look in the very bottom right of my screenshots. There's a little "Remesh" checkbox when you have mesh selected.

barbult

Oh, I think what your are talking about is "Remeshing". In version 10 (I think) and 11, "Retopology" is a whole separate menu of commands. Retopology is a much more interactive process of drawing your own mesh, more or less. I think it is designed to make low resolution mesh for games, etc.

barbult

I didn't see your comment before I posted. Yes, that is Remesh. Thanks for the clarification.

Gordig

That particular mesh will never simulate, due to the buttons and overlapping fabric I put on the seams. That was just something I threw together when I was learning MD.

barbult

The issue I've had in the past with remesh is that it still puts all those little triangles at the seams. I'd like a nice clean quad mesh, which retopology can do, but losing the welds is a deal killer for me, because I don't know how to weld it back together. Maybe I'll try remesh again.

Gordig

Here's a remeshed item exported from MD, and it simulates just fine, which I believe indicates that the welds are preserved, but it's possible I don't fully understand what that means.

barbult

Yes, remesh preserves the seam welds. Retopology does not.

barbult

In the past, when I tried remesh, dForce didn't like those triangles at the seams very much. Maybe dForce has become more tolerant. It has been a long time since I tried remesh.

lilweep

imagine having Marvelous Designer and then simulating in Daz studio. smh

TheMysteryIsThePoint

lilweep said:

imagine having Marvelous Designer and then simulating in Daz studio. smh

I thought that was strange, too, but I just assumed I misunderstood something about the workflow.

Richard Haseltine

TheMysteryIsThePoint said:

lilweep said:

imagine having Marvelous Designer and then simulating in Daz studio. smh

I thought that was strange, too, but I just assumed I misunderstood something about the workflow.

Scene set-up may well be easier over all in Daz Studio.

Gordig

Is it just me, or is MD's Alembic export garbage? So far, my only recourse has been to export the entire outfit as an OBJ to get the polygon selections, then export the animated outfit as an Alembic, then import both into C4D, copy the polygon selections from the OBJ to the Alembic in order to texture it. There also doesn't appear to be a sensible way to export individual components. I know it's not a problem with how C4D reads Alembic files, because I can export Alembic out of DS using Sagan and get every item separated out with its polygon selections.

Nelmi

I have seen some posts here about the retopology in MD and the welds falling apart. I found a solution for that. It is extra work but you have to do the sewing again. The sewing line is basically the weld in MD. After I have done that, it worked perfect. Also keep in mind that the retopology step should be the final thing that you do in MD. You cannot go back and create a seam for example. You can however change the fabric and physical property presets. I hope the information helps.

KlaudM

How can I fix the hole created using the zipper?

The zipper edges are perfectly aligned to the internal rectangle I made.
The additional point you see in he 2d pattern is because I tried to "hide" the hole moving it to the top, without that point the result is the same.
I also tried to split the bottom line in 2 points then sew them but this deforms the bottom part of the zipper creating an awful triangle.

lilweep

if you ask on the marvelous designer discord you will probably get a faster response.

KlaudM

I just discovered they added the possibility to sew the zipper edges, fixed )

KlaudM

Anyone knows how to import the same version of a clothing with the zipper opened as morph in Daz?
I used MD many times to better simulate clothes then I always imported the OBJ using loader pro and then saved it as morph, never had problems, but now when I try to load the OBJ with the zipper open it says the geometry didn't match :(

felis

Is the zipper when closed in MD actually presented bu individual verteces as you have when open?

KlaudM

felis said:

Is the zipper when closed in MD actually presented bu individual verteces as you have when open?

 I just checked, not....5.923 v 5.925
2 more vertices for the zipper open 

lilweep

Maybe instead of exporting the closed morph at zipper 100% closed, maybe export it at 99% closed and that might still have the same vert as when 0% Closed.

 

I supposed an alternative is to just imitate a zipper by doing 2 strips of fabric sewn together instead of the two sides of the zipper, and then apply a zipper texture (or true 3D zipper model) to them after export. 

morphace

MD to DS is killing me :)

I'm creating a clothing in MD and import as OBJ.

For each pose, I create a new MD project to adjust clothes to the pose, export again, import into DS as morph on my clothing.

No change on the geometry (particle distance, etc.).

But yet, I get (but not always) differences in the vertex counts and DS refuses to use the OBJ as morph.

Is that a "normal" problem?

I'd be ok to not use morphs but to import each OBJ for each pose separately.

However, MD appends unique numbers to the surface groups upon each export, which makes it impossible to use material presets.

So basically, you then have to copy paste each material from each surface to the newly imported OBJ's surfaces, which can be time consuming...

Thanks for help!

reizibarrientos_bb01567978

barbult said:

I did my first Marvelous Designer autofit, where I took a garment provided by MD for their avatar and autofit it to G8F in MD 10. The I exported it to OBJ and brought it into Daz Studio. I ran transfer utility and added dForce. On the left is the dress without any dForce on the basic G8F. The other three are G8F in various poses with dForce on the dress.

This is a pretty simple garment - no sleeves, collar, cuffs, buttons or zippers, etc. The MD autofit worked pretty well on this.

I love this dress, please tell to me where I can buy this one.

barbult

reizibarrientos_bb01567978 said:

barbult said:

I did my first Marvelous Designer autofit, where I took a garment provided by MD for their avatar and autofit it to G8F in MD 10. The I exported it to OBJ and brought it into Daz Studio. I ran transfer utility and added dForce. On the left is the dress without any dForce on the basic G8F. The other three are G8F in various poses with dForce on the dress.

This is a pretty simple garment - no sleeves, collar, cuffs, buttons or zippers, etc. The MD autofit worked pretty well on this.

I love this dress, please tell to me where I can buy this one.

This is a sample garment that comes with MD. I'm not aware of a place to buy it separately.

 

Jessie

This is a long shot but, could an 'older' MD user help me? I have MD 8 and I'm trying to figure out how to bake the textures and uv's for use in Daz. Most of what I've found online has been for the newer versions.

lilweep

Jessie said:

This is a long shot but, could an 'older' MD user help me? I have MD 8 and I'm trying to figure out how to bake the textures and uv's for use in Daz. Most of what I've found online has been for the newer versions.

MD8 is not super old.  I think MD 8 had the UV Set tab?

navigate there and set up your pattern pieces into the UDIM tiles. Each Fabric material should fit within a single UDIM tile.

Are you ticking the Unified Texture option on export? (if you dont it will just use repeat settings of the material set up within MD and will not therefore use UVs). 

Screenshots?

Jessie

I know it's not 'old' old, but by tech standards (and mine) it is cause by the time I figure this program out they'll be on MD 15 or something, lol. 

You mean the drop down on the upper right-hand corner? Yes, it has a UV editor tab, but that is it. I dn't see a button/ tool icon/ drop down, etc I can use to bake the textures or normal map. There's a snapshot button, but that just gives me the wire mesh. 

https://imgur.com/a/yGZ5eqC Screen shot of what I see when I go to the UV editor