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Yeah those Pro bundles can be a huge bargain, especially when they go on sale! (Check the 'Fast Grab' page often; that's where I've usually found them when they're on sale!)
2 more questions
What is "legacy"? and also how do I add morphs to the model I'm using?
Like how do I add one of these (Any of the first 4 on the list.) to my Genesis or V4?
http://www10.sharecg.com/search/index.php?q=asari&button;.x=0&button;.y=0&interstitial_displayed=Yes
...I actually like the choice of the Anime Manga Starter Bundle as it has the base V4 and M4 as well as the Aiko and Hiro 4 starter packs (which together would come to almost 32$ on their own) for just over 20$ PC price.
The M4/V4 Morphs++ for are only 10.48 each (PC price) making the total along with the Anime Manga bundle about 42$. Not a bad deal for 4 characters. some hair and clothing. yeah the pro bundles do have the skin textures.
True there are a few things in the V4/M4 bundles that are nice like the skin maps and a few poses, but these can be purchased separately. at the same 65% discount.
If one were to go for any of the M4/V4 bundles I'd stick with the starter bundles as they include the essentials for character creation and cost about half of the Pro bundle PC price.
..."Legacy" is used to denote older content/figures (usually pre Daz Studio 4.5 and pre-Genesis).
If a morph is stated as being for V4, you can load it directly into the character. After you have installed the morph(s) in Daz Studio, you just select V4 in the scene tab and then double click on the morph(s) icon in the content tab that you wish to add. You cannot load any morphs that are not part of the same "unimesh" base figure. For example a Hiro 4 morph will not work on V4, but a Steph4 morph will.
For Genesis you have to transfer the morph(s) using the GenerationX plugin which has it's own instructions.
"Legacy" often refers to the older DAZ figures, as opposed to the new, Genesis (and now, Genesis 2) platforms and technologies. (In fact, with the emergence of Genesis 2, I've even seen references to the original Genesis as a 'legacy' platform.)
In addition, in your Product Library, on some product pages, in the Download links, there may be a button labeled 'Legacy' (Jack Tomalin's products almost always include this 'Legacy' link); that is a link to the version of the product that is optimized for the 'legacy' version of DAZ Studio, that is to say, versions prior to 4.5. (Version 4.5 was a real "game-changer", in many ways!)
However, when I use the term, it is, for the most part, in the first sense that I described: as a reference to the older, Generation 3 and Generation 4 figures; in other words, pre-Genesis.
And when my browser finally brings up one of the items on the page you linked to (for some reason, my Internet connection has been ponderously slow lately), I'll try to answer your other question. But I gotta warn you: installing content in DAZ Studio, without benefit of Install Manager, can be the most frustrating, aggravating, hair-yanking experience of your life! That's because DS's content directory structure is, not to put too fine a point on it, insane.
...when installing freebies from ShareCG, Rendo, etc, though, the DIM is useless so you have to manually install them.
I usually extract them to a dummy folder then just drag & drop into the runtime/library structure in Windows making sure that each component goes int the proper folder like Geometries into "Runtime/Geometries" Poses into "Runtime/Library/Poses" and Textures into "Runtime/Textures". This is why readme files are so important. There are tutorials out on the net as well as thee forums that detail this process better.
Alright now where should I put those so DAZ Studios can read it?
Or should I wait until I buy V4 so it will make the folder its suppose to go to?
...yes I would wait until you have all your base figures installed first as those set up the folder structure you will need. See my post above for a brief rundown on the process of loading free content.
After three attempts, I finally got one of those files to download. And I immediately see a problem....
This content was built in and for 3-D Studio (an Autodesk product). You could probably use it in DAZ Studio, but it's going to require an awful lot of work!
First of all, you can import the .OBJ file into DS, but it would just be, essentially, a prop; a static object. To use it as a pose-able figure, you're going to have to "rig" it; that is, add a "skeleton" to it, with a hierarchy of "bones", that can be posed. I can explain how to do that in Poser, but I've never tried it in DAZ Studio. (I don't even know how to start!)
In any event, it is a rather arduous process....
Well... I found another one that I have to pay for but I think this one will work better.
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/hfs-resources-xenoskins/99864
I just downloaded the V4 head morph to play with.
Now I'm running into permissions issues with copying it into my DAZ Studio Content directory! (Jeez-oh-Pete, and I thought I was paranoid!)
(This is liable to take a while.... I have to change permissions on the entire directory, and all files and folders in it -- about 45 GB of content, in all!)
If anyone in this thread is also thinking of purchasing Genesis 5 Pro bundles, you should take a look at the Carrara 8.5 Pro Bundle offer. It includes both V5 and M5 Pro bundles. Basically you will be purchasing both bundles and getting Carrara 8.5 Pro for free (OK, maybe not free, but for around $35 bucks).
...Carrara 8.5 Pro is 171$ and that is with the PC discount. As I understand, the standard version is only 32 bit.
I started with DS4 almost three years ago, but I didn't use V4 for a long time. For me Genesis has much more to offer, but this may be my personal taste.
Poser users seem to love V4 passionately, though it is - sorry - really outdated technology. If you want to invest not only for the moment, there is no other choice than Genesis 1 and/or 2 resp. V5/V6 (or maybe Dawn, but I never used this figure). Another important point: Dressing Genesis figures is much, much easier than it was with V4!
+1 to that. Buy something built for Genesis, and it will work whether the character is male, female, kid, elderly, or monster. It takes a bit of tweaking, but it's amazing versatility. Kit bashing with Genesis isn't a huge headache. On that note, making clothes for Genesis is way easier through Hexagon or other modeling program (as far as experience goes).
As a former Poser user I was pretty entrenched in using the Generation 4 figures for everything. In fact, it's only been the last couple of years that I've been using Genesis figures. The lure of Genesis was such that I left my old Poser Pro environment and made the switch to Daz Studio. What's more, there has been a noticeable improvement in the quality of my work as a result, though that's largely due to having a more up-to-date software as I have few doubts I could achieve similar results if I had the newer Poser (my old Poser was PP2010).
At any rate, Genesis has made the working environment so much easier to manage. Instead of struggling to fit certain clothes to certain shapes, I just click and it works. New versions of Poser have the fitting room, but even then it's far from a 1-click solution and requires some tweaks to get looking right. On the upside, they also have more control over the final fit.
Other than K4, I rarely use the older Generation 4 figures now. K4 only because it has a far better wardrobe than current generation kids and I occasionally get tired of putting youths in shrink-wrapped adults clothes. Seriously Daz, make with the Kids 6 already ;)
Good point. Very good point. I could justify the effort of getting K4 because apart from them, kids don't nearly get attention of PAs at all. Sad truth!
Good point. Very good point. I could justify the effort of getting K4 because apart from them, kids don't nearly get attention of PAs at all. Sad truth!
Probably because a lot of us find the Gen 4 kids a bit on the creepy side. There's something slightly off about their eyes that tends to push them to the wrong side of the uncanny valley or give them that "following you around the room" vibe: :gulp:
Really? I love the K4 kids, and still wish we had had an older generation of kids before they moved on to Genesis.
From the promos, it looks like Zev0's Growing Up morphs have finally managed to overcome the linebacker shoulders that the earlier kid figures and the Genesis kid morph all seemed to have to some degree or other. But his kids only go down to about age 5. There are a couple of Genesis babies, which are not bad (better than the MilBaby anyway) but there is still a bit of a gap -- although probably not enough demand for the 3-5 age range for anyone to step forward and fill it.
Something that I don't remember seeing in the Vic 4 Vs, Vic 5 debate is that if the poster has Studio, they already have the required base figure for Vic 5. Vic 5 is a morph target, not a separate figure. Vic 4 is a separate figure.
Although really, if the real debate is between the Pro packs then the real decision-maker is the rest of the stuff *in* the bundle. The skins, hair, and outfits which are shipped with it. The base Genesis figure which comes with Studio can use all of the ones in either package. The poses too, with some tweaking. Only the V4 morphs are inaccessible without add-ons.
I came close using Thorne's Tommi, JW's Tindra, and Steph4 with the NPMs for teen girls. Clothing fits were a pain sometimes, though the morph follower helped a bit. Male teens were a lot more difficult as there was no David4.
K4 worked fine for me, and I actually prefer him/her over the Genesis Child shape.
No, there are teen morphs (like this one, the second down - http://www.most-digital-creations.com/free_poser_poses_textures_morphs_props_15.htm). But you either have to search a lot to get the freebies or buy a special package.
Kyoto is right when it comes to the membership - if you only can afford such purchase at once. Now if you want to get a freebie from DAZ, you need the membership (or buy something different and add the freebie to the cart). Quite a lot of content worth getting is a Platinum Club item (MFD, Cyclorama, some of Goldtassel's haircuts, I believe a few Ravenhair's clothes, Danika for Gen2F I think too). So if you can afford the membership, it pays off.