daz keeps crashing (when I click on a Parameter gear) *bug being fixed*

assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
edited April 2014 in The Commons

And it's just for 1 morph too

It's the Eyelids Fold Down morph, part of the Genesis evolution pack

All the rest are fine, but as soon as I click that gear, Daz will stop working and crash on me

it's not the gear, but whenever I press the Parameter setting tab, not when I press the gear itself

either way, it still crashes

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,774
    edited April 2014

    Which version of DAZ Studio - Help>About DAZ Studio, the number is at top-left? Also, are you sure you are using the current version of the morphs - if you use the Install Manager you should be able to see any pending updates in the Ready to Download or Ready to Install tab. I'm not getting a crash here with the current versions of DS and the morphs

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  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Version

    4.6.2.118

    And it's current or not, I don't know, I bought them back on 1/14/14

    unless they updated since then (which i doubt, with how old the morphs are) then that's not the issue

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Found another one that crashes Daz on me

    this time, it was Earlobes Attached

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I have written over the problem files AND uninstalled Daz, and installed a new copy

    It still crashes on me

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,774
    edited December 1969

    Do you have Michael 5 and/or Victoria 5? Both of those morphs have MCM correction morphs with those figures, as do many others, so if you do and your versions of those are not current it's remotely possible that may be triggering the crash - it's certainly worth checking that M5 and V5 are current. It's also a good diea to check that you have only one copy of the morph files.

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Yes, I have M5 & V5, but can't download them now

    I can when I'm allowed

    And I only have 1 copy of the morphs in the pack

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    so...I up & delete all the base files for Genesis, V5, M5 & the evolution morphs, and replaced them with a fresh download

    they still crash on me

    What else is connected to these Evolution morphs?

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Okay, it stopped crashing after I deleted the Victoria 5 folder in the Daz 3D morphs folder (both morphs don't crash anymore)

    And it was a brand new install with what I put in that Data folder

    *going to put in a new install for V5, again*

    but when I put in the new download...it continues to crash on me

    *deletes the M5, to do another install like V5*
    nope still crashing on me

    *then I delete the M5 folder, but bot V5*
    it doesn't crash on me


    There is something with the M5 & V5 morphs that are causing it to crash.

    If I delete the V5 data folder and keep M5, it doesn't crash. If I delete the M5 folder & keep V5, it doesn't crash, but I can't have both folders in my Data folder at the same time

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    another check...I deleted all other Gen5 morphs for Genesis....it still crashes

    I even deleted the Gen4 morphs (v4, A4. S4, H5, ect) and the Gen3 moprhs...still crashes on me

    *checks deeped into the problem*
    I think I found the issue

    it's the Victoria 5 file in the

    I:\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis\Base\UV Sets\DAZ 3D\GenePool

    that place (just V5) M5 didn't solve the crash

    I deleted that file and it stopped crashing

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    *then now I try installing a fresh set of Male & female genitalia)

    nope, still makes it crash


    It has to do with that V5 file, and I don't know what else to do with it. I just tracked down the issue, now I can't fix it

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    And now I did a fresh install of the Genesis Evolution: Expressions, crashes on me

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/8mpxejonq3dukcy/daz log.txt

    I noticed some thing shave been coming up on the log, but I'm not sure what the issue is by reading the end of it

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Deleted the Young Teens folder, since the error came in at the end...didn't work

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Yeah, so far, only things to keep Daz from crashing with these 2 morphs are

    delete either the V5 or M5 folder in the Data folder, or by deleting the V5 file in the UV set

    and now I have no idea what to do, everything was fresh

    What could be clashing with that V5 UV?

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Alright....I deleted all the files that was related to anything in that Daz 3D folder (so the whole folder was empty) I EVEN deleted all the files for Genesis (giving it all a fresh start) I kept my vender morphs since I figured those have nothing to do with my issue

    ....and it still crashes on those 2 morphs

    *removing vendor morphs from the Genesis morph folder*
    ....still crashes


    I tried what I could and anything logical to solve this...it all comes down to to that V5 file Gene Pool folder, or maybe something in the V5 folder in the Daz 3D folder

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,774
    edited December 1969

    Heh, well apparently I didn't have the latest version of Victoria 5 - but having installed the update (and having the current version of Michael 5 anyway) I'm still not getting a crash. I think at this point you may need to open a support ticket. For comparison, here is a listing of the contents of my \data\DAZ 3D\Genesis\Base\UV Sets\DAZ 3D\GenePool and \data\DAZ 3D\Genesis\Base\Morphs\DAZ 3D\Victoria 5 folders:

    Directory of D:\Content Folders\Studio content\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis\Base\UV Sets\DAZ 3D\GenePool

    16/04/2013 19:20 212,162 David 5.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:05 257,945 Freak 5.dsf
    04/10/2011 23:39 864,570 Gorilla.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:04 263,371 Hiro 5.dsf
    12/12/2013 23:57 262,683 Michael 5.dsf
    13/06/2012 23:26 865,487 Stephanie 5.dsf
    02/09/2012 18:45 826,353 Troll.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 263,424 Victoria 5.dsf

    D:\Content Folders\Studio content\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis\Base\Morphs\DAZ 3D\Victoria 5

    26/06/2013 03:03 358,030 FBMVictoria5.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 353,172 FBMVictoria5Sprmdl.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 144,980 FHMVictoria5.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,644 JCMlThighSideIn.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,834 JCMrThighSideIn.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 5,138 JCMV5lFootDwn.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 5,617 JCMV5lFootUp.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,359 JCMV5lHandDwn.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 4,944 JCMV5lHandUp.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,339 JCMV5lShinBck.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 4,333 JCMV5lShldrDwn.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,457 JCMV5lShldrFwd.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 2,219 JCMV5lThighFwd.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,944 JCMV5lThighOut.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 5,095 JCMV5rFootDwn.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 5,626 JCMV5rFootUp.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,399 JCMV5rHandDwn.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 4,940 JCMV5rHandUp.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,316 JCMV5rShinBck.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 4,371 JCMV5rShldrDwn.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,421 JCMV5rShldrFwd.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 2,294 JCMV5rThighFwd.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,960 JCMV5rThighOut.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 17,784 MCMV5CheeksBalloonPucker.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 5,404 MCMV5Contempt.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 3,912 MCMV5Disgust.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,106 MCMV5EarlobesAttached.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 2,523 MCMV5EH.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 27,377 MCMV5ER.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,284 MCMV5Excitement.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,144 MCMV5EyelidsFoldDown.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 2,328 MCMV5EyelidsSmooth.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,443 MCMV5EyeLidsTopUpL.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,877 MCMV5EyeLidsTopUpR.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 6,936 MCMV5EyesClosedL.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 6,807 MCMV5EyesClosedR.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 9,123 MCMV5Fear.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,448 MCMV5Flirting.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 34,690 MCMV5FlirtingFeminineL.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 34,909 MCMV5FlirtingFeminineR.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 9,556 MCMV5FlirtingMasculineL.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 11,178 MCMV5FlirtingMasculineR.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 5,088 MCMV5Frown.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,720 MCMV5Happy.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 21,477 MCMV5HdAA.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 48,774 MCMV5HdAfraid.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 944 MCMV5HdBrowUpR.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,072 MCMV5HdCheeksBalloon.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 17,785 MCMV5HdCheeksBalloonPucker.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 5,406 MCMV5HdContempt.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 12,490 MCMV5HdDesireA.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 3,912 MCMV5HdDisgust.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,106 MCMV5HdEarlobesAttached.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 2,511 MCMV5HdEH.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 1,287 MCMV5HdExcitement.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,151 MCMV5HdEyelidsFoldDown.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 2,373 MCMV5HdEyelidsSmooth.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,437 MCMV5HdEyeLidsTopUpL.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,871 MCMV5HdEyeLidsTopUpR.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 6,819 MCMV5HdEyesClosedR.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 9,269 MCMV5HdFear.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,451 MCMV5HdFlirting.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 9,646 MCMV5HdFlirtingMasculineL.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 5,091 MCMV5HdFrown.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,779 MCMV5HdHappiness.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 51,689 MCMV5HdHeavy.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 3,206 MCMV5HdIH.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,029 MCMV5HdIY.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 3,039 MCMV5HdK.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 21,158 MCMV5HdLipsPucker.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 19,868 MCMV5HdLipsPuckerWide.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,113 MCMV5HdLipUpperSize.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,359 MCMV5HdMouthHeight.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 7,813 MCMV5HdMouthOpenWide.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 69,040 MCMV5HdMouthSmile.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 95,596 MCMV5HdMouthSmileOpen.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,092 MCMV5HdNoseSeptumHeight.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 22,167 MCMV5HdOW.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 49,502 MCMV5HdPain.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,135 MCMV5HdPhiltrumAngle.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 3,593 MCMV5HdS.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 2,905 MCMV5HdSad.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 13,647 MCMV5HdScream.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 24,483 MCMV5HdSH.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,351 MCMV5HdShock.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 13,222 MCMV5HdSmileA.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 9,764 MCMV5HdSmileB.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 19,869 MCMV5HdSmileSimple.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 3,498 MCMV5HdSnarlLeft.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 2,223 MCMV5HdSnarlRight.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 4,702 MCMV5HdSurprise.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 2,786 MCMV5HdT.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 3,602 MCMV5HdTH.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 22,166 MCMV5HdUW.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 3,425 MCMV5HdW.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 261,148 MCMV5Heavy.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 3,175 MCMV5IH.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 1,019 MCMV5IY.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 39,188 MCMV5JawSideR.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 3,038 MCMV5K.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 21,152 MCMV5LipsPucker.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 13,211 MCMV5SmileA.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 2,218 MCMV5SnarlRight.dsf
    26/06/2013 03:03 4,700 MCMV5Surprise.dsf
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    26/06/2013 03:03 5,638 PBMV5BreastsUpwardSlope.dsf

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I already have submitted a ticket

    But here is the thing...even after deleting all that stuff, and putting in new copies (just leaving everything else out) just have the Genesis base files, and V5 & M5

    it still crashes

    literally, it would just have V5 and M5 in the morph folder, and still crash

    I legally bought V5 & M5, so it's not like reusing the some old file

  • greysgreys Posts: 335
    edited December 1969

    Heh, well apparently I didn't have the latest version of Victoria 5 - but having installed the update (and having the current version of Michael 5 anyway) I'm still not getting a crash. I think at this point you may need to open a support ticket. For comparison, here is a listing of the contents of my \data\DAZ 3D\Genesis\Base\UV Sets\DAZ 3D\GenePool and \data\DAZ 3D\Genesis\Base\Morphs\DAZ 3D\Victoria 5 folders:

    Can I stick my nose in for a couple of seconds to ask what you used to generate the folder content listings Richard? :)

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    I already have submitted a ticket

    But here is the thing...even after deleting all that stuff, and putting in new copies (just leaving everything else out) just have the Genesis base files, and V5 & M5

    it still crashes

    literally, it would just have V5 and M5 in the morph folder, and still crash

    I legally bought V5 & M5, so it's not like reusing the some old file

    I assume you're downloading Genesis Starter Essentials, V5, and M5 fresh?

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    It wasn't V5 or any of that stuff

    the UV maps were clashing with each other...not sure which 1 was giving it issues

    I just had to delete all the Daz related figures

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    ...never mind, it up and crashed when I installed M5

    there has to be a file that causing this. All the damn things I'm installing are fresh (no old ass torrents, all purchased)

    it's fine when it's V5 or M5, but both can't be there at the same time

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    How many files are meant to be in the Michael 5 & Victoria 5 morph folders?

    My M5 has 168 & V5 has 167

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Those numbers are correct, I just checked in my folders for you.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,774
    edited December 1969

    Heh, well apparently I didn't have the latest version of Victoria 5 - but having installed the update (and having the current version of Michael 5 anyway) I'm still not getting a crash. I think at this point you may need to open a support ticket. For comparison, here is a listing of the contents of my \data\DAZ 3D\Genesis\Base\UV Sets\DAZ 3D\GenePool and \data\DAZ 3D\Genesis\Base\Morphs\DAZ 3D\Victoria 5 folders:

    Can I stick my nose in for a couple of seconds to ask what you used to generate the folder content listings Richard? :)

    I used the Command prompt in Windows -

    type command in the Start menu/page and click Command Prompt

    in the window type the letter of the drive you use, followed by a colon, and hit trturn (assuming your content isn't on the C: drive) - so

    d:

    for me. Then being lazy I open a file browser to show the location I want to list. In the Command prompt type dir and a space, then drag the folder icon from the Explorer window in (that should add the folder anem without having to type it), then type space > space, then add the location you want the output to go to - so mine was

    dir "D:\Content Folders\Studio content\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis\Base\Morphs\DAZ 3D\Victoria 5" > E:\Documents\V5Morphs.txt

    and hit return

  • greysgreys Posts: 335
    edited December 1969

    I used the Command prompt in Windows -

    type command in the Start menu/page and click Command Prompt

    in the window type the letter of the drive you use, followed by a colon, and hit trturn (assuming your content isn't on the C: drive) - so

    d:

    for me. Then being lazy I open a file browser to show the location I want to list. In the Command prompt type dir and a space, then drag the folder icon from the Explorer window in (that should add the folder anem without having to type it), then type space > space, then add the location you want the output to go to - so mine was

    dir "D:\Content Folders\Studio content\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis\Base\Morphs\DAZ 3D\Victoria 5" > E:\Documents\V5Morphs.txt

    and hit return

    aha, thanks. I'm on Mac, but I'm sure I can go dig up a synonymous terminal code now you've given me the idea. :)

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    Those numbers are correct, I just checked in my folders for you.

    okay, thanks

    now I really don't know what's up with my files

  • lcfarlcfar Posts: 88
    edited December 1969

    I can confirm that this also happens on my system (Win7 64-bit, 16GB RAM, DAZ Studio 4.6.2.118). I click the gear icon on the EyelidsFoldDown morph, then click the Parameter Settings. The screen goes gray and generates a Windows error as shown in the attached screenshot. I checked and I have the latest versions of Victoria 5, Michael 5 and the Evolution morphs. I have attached screenshots of the error and the Windows Problem Report.

    Eyelids_Error_Message.JPG
    607 x 476 - 54K
    Eyelids_Fold_Down_Error.JPG
    1486 x 748 - 108K
  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    finally someone else that tried the dial

    I'm not crazy

    So, is the problem the Daz installer (I even did a new fresh install of that program)

    I'm not sure what the issue is...just sort of found a work around for it

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,774
    edited December 1969

    I wonder if it's a plug-in conflict. What plug ins do you have?

  • assmonkeyassmonkey Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Whatever comes with Daz and GenX

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