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Manchurian woman of Qing Dynasty W.I.P [commercial]

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,722
    edited December 1969

    Mec4D said:
    here is early preview just for your references so you get better idea .. still not shoes ..but that tomorrow
    Beautiful :)
  • cecilia.robinsoncecilia.robinson Posts: 2,208
    edited December 1969

    Mec4D said:
    Thanks Cecilia .. after 16 years it is still worthy doing it and I love doing it as each project bring me somewhere else :)
    so nice to have you on board this time ...wait only for the details .. it is going to be awesome I promise ..including the hairdo ! ;)

    Surely it will! I've just seen the new images you posted - absolutely terrific and charming.

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    the clothing layers do not colide with each other they go with the harmony following each other , I am doing always custom weight maps and also sometimes gravity JMC's for the clothing

    I could not sleep lat night thinking about the hand tissue.. and what best placement would be to make it effective .. with head it does go just with 1 direction on the same time , the hand can be ben in any position , arms up or down so that will be little bit of thinking today ..
    with the sleeves is much easy but in my case the sleeves are not satin to fall down , they are more static kind of fabric in the outfit and more heavy ..so they need to keep the form the way it is .. I guess we will find out soon with the hand tissue and how it perform :)

    zigraphix said:
    Eustace Scrubb said:
    The issue with reverse deformation JCMs in a prop is that they'll get entirely mis-tipped too easily: I tried this once with a bottle of liquid, and if it was parented to a hand, the hand rotations didn't do (obviously) what the arm rotations, or the bottle rotations, did. Either one has to link the ERC to every affecting axis, risking an overcompensation when multiple axes are turned together, or use IK and a rotation handle to make it more-or-less world-based. If you can make the morph work, no matter which axis tilts the head, more power to you for it.

    Probably easier to do with an item attached to the head than the hand, but we'll find out when she gets to the hand tissue! (It would be really wonderful if this method would work on draping the sleeves...)

    I'd be more worried about how to keep those clothing layers from colliding!

    I have Chinese historical drama music stuck in my head now. ;)

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    I made separate morph for each XZ axis .. so bend ( negative-positive ) and side side , you can have just 2 combination at once bend + side-side and that works fine ..

    Eustace Scrubb said:
    The issue with reverse deformation JCMs in a prop is that they'll get entirely mis-tipped too easily: I tried this once with a bottle of liquid, and if it was parented to a hand, the hand rotations didn't do (obviously) what the arm rotations, or the bottle rotations, did. Either one has to link the ERC to every affecting axis, risking an overcompensation when multiple axes are turned together, or use IK and a rotation handle to make it more-or-less world-based. If you can make the morph work, no matter which axis tilts the head, more power to you for it.
  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    Thanks a lot !


    Leana said:
    Mec4D said:
    here is early preview just for your references so you get better idea .. still not shoes ..but that tomorrow Beautiful :)


    Thanks Cecilia .. after 16 years it is still worthy doing it and I love doing it as each project bring me somewhere else :)
    so nice to have you on board this time ...wait only for the details .. it is going to be awesome I promise ..including the hairdo ! ;)

    Surely it will! I've just seen the new images you posted - absolutely terrific and charming.

  • jakkujakku Posts: 91
    edited December 1969

    Hello!

    Wow!! Amazing!

    I was actually totally hoping that YOU would make something like this! :D

    Thank you for making this :)

    Face morph is beautiful :)

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    Thanks I mentioned 2 months ago that I am going into Asian outfits soon..it was on my agenda .. but that is not the last .. I still want to make 2 other dynasties clothing but warming up with this one first ..

    also want to let you know that she will be not alone, here is also her hubby full outfit from the Qing Dynasty .. already done and submitted the male set including also Chinese style beard with 11 different style shapes .. surprise surprise :)

    I need to finish the rest of her stuff today so busy time :)

    Jakku said:
    Hello!

    Wow!! Amazing!

    I was actually totally hoping that YOU would make something like this! :D

    Thank you for making this :)

    Face morph is beautiful :)


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  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,212
    edited December 1969

    Your work is no different than anything else you put your mind to darling... superlative! XO

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Richard, I believe my work is obsessive as I forget about the world around me when I am doing it ..the time stops and nothing else mater .. but when I am off then I am off for real and hard to get back to routine again .. last night before sleep the last thing on my mind was questions about the hand tissue and when I woke up the first thing that come on my mind was the right answers .. 3D Psycho lol
    but there was projects that I did not succeed at all ..it was to much of the technical side to accomplish as it always take longer than the modeling ..

    RAMWolff said:
    Your work is no different than anything else you put your mind to darling... superlative! XO
  • jakkujakku Posts: 91
    edited December 1969

    Sounds great! :)

    I cannot wait for it to hit the store.

    I am really happy you have more planned, and both male and female, I like that!

    Thanks :)

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Jakku :)

    Jakku said:
    Sounds great! :)

    I cannot wait for it to hit the store.

    I am really happy you have more planned, and both male and female, I like that!

    Thanks :)

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I have absolutely zero need of clothing of this time period but I do have to say this set is looking good. I love the Gravity thing, and adding Male to the set really opens new possibilities. I will keep on watching as this goes. I find myself pleasantly surprised to this point.

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Jaderail

    Jaderail said:
    I have absolutely zero need of clothing of this time period but I do have to say this set is looking good. I love the Gravity thing, and adding Male to the set really opens new possibilities. I will keep on watching as this goes. I find myself pleasantly surprised to this point.


    I made couple of different color options

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  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    and some more details

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  • CathyMCathyM Posts: 261
    edited December 1969

    Wow, both of these are incredibly beautiful Cath! More outfits I hadn't realized I needed, and now I think I can't do without :) Watching eagerly... -Cathy

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    Thank you Cathy..

    Here comes the Flower Pot Shoes .. :)

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  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    The dress in those colours looks like precious jewels!
    The shoes are cute (now I want them in real).

    I am in all probability not getting the dress for realistic depictions - but I love fantasy!
    And I want it.
    Something for the females!
    YAY!

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited July 2014

    The dresses has all embroidered flowers and motives , and little heavy ..
    since the Manchu come from North and cold climate for that reason so many clothing layers to keep them warm .
    From West China to East of Europe all old fashion was full of embroidered flowers and flowers in the hair
    The early China Dynasties has more light and balanced clothing
    I wanna make one more from Wei and Jin Dynasty in the future ..

    P.S I was not for plan to make the Manchu woman outfit but someone wished for ..
    I need to make still the long fingers golden jewelry , hand tissue and earrings , I think the most busy outfit ever .. :)

    Kerya said:
    The dress in those colours looks like precious jewels!
    The shoes are cute (now I want them in real).

    I am in all probability not getting the dress for realistic depictions - but I love fantasy!
    And I want it.
    Something for the females!
    YAY!

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  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,212
    edited December 1969

    But isn't this outfit based on a real outfit? It's gotta be, it looks familiar to me from my early days of reading about the various Asian dynasty's!

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    It is Richard , nobody said it is not ..other way no reason for me to make it just for fun ..

    the fabric textures I am doing are from the original outfit of the last Manchu Empress Dowager Cixi

    RAMWolff said:
    But isn't this outfit based on a real outfit? It's gotta be, it looks familiar to me from my early days of reading about the various Asian dynasty's!
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  • AlexLOAlexLO Posts: 193
    edited December 1969

    Amazing how what appears to be the most beautiful fantasy outfits are actually based on reality isn't it? Love the work on this as I do on all of your sets. You continue to raise the bar!

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Alex .. agree

    finished the custom weight maps and put her into some dance poses :)

    Alex L said:
    Amazing how what appears to be the most beautiful fantasy outfits are actually based on reality isn't it? Love the work on this as I do on all of your sets. You continue to raise the bar!
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  • WilmapWilmap Posts: 2,917
    edited December 1969

    All I can say Cath is WOW!!!!! Another great outfit.

    You are amazing! Such wonderful details.

  • Aave NainenAave Nainen Posts: 1,108
    edited December 1969

    I too cannot see myself using this in my renders.........but.........I might have to buy it..........simply because it is amazing and beautiful. I would automatically have to get the male set as well.........so obsessive am I.......lol

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Wendy and Aave Nainen .. sometimes you need little thing to get inspired into another direction as I did with this outfit .. I created long before the male outfit and then it inspired me for this one and want to make 5 min animation now when I am done .. but I think it is nice set for collection.. and maybe not needed for today but one day maybe ;)

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    Could not resist to make another snap shot of the happy couple ..
    used Olympia textures on my morph what works great with , and his face is another morph I am working on ..used Michael6 textures

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  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    RAMWolff said:
    But isn't this outfit based on a real outfit? It's gotta be, it looks familiar to me from my early days of reading about the various Asian dynasty's!

    Ooopsi! Misunderstanding!
    I was just saying I will (probably) use it in fantasy renders in answer to Jaderail's "I have absolutely zero need of clothing of this time period " ...

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    The dancing pictures are showing the weightmapping wonderfully - and that couple shot is sooooooo romantic!
    (I need a heartshaped smiley here LOL)

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,212
    edited December 1969

    Kerya said:
    RAMWolff said:
    But isn't this outfit based on a real outfit? It's gotta be, it looks familiar to me from my early days of reading about the various Asian dynasty's!

    Ooopsi! Misunderstanding!
    I was just saying I will (probably) use it in fantasy renders in answer to Jaderail's "I have absolutely zero need of clothing of this time period " ...

    Thanks for clarifying. That's why I asked Cath as I could have sworn I've seen art work with similar styles of clothing and though 'Must be based heavily if not accurately on real clothing of that period" and then your post I was like "HUH?" lol

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited July 2014

    it is always like that, when you do fantasy then everyone want historical, when you do historical everyone want fantasy :)
    however you can use it as you please! as it really no matter .. I want some dragon and the Empress Chinese fantasy scenes soon .. would look nicer in actual clothing than club or geisha dress :) hahah the fantasy become more realistic :)

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