Classic boy/girl scout/brownies/cubscout/Den Mother uniforms for G8 M/F
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I've looked everywhere and can only find one classic boyscout outfit (That's not very good) and no girl scout outfits at all. They are such a part of American culture! I can't believe that Daz dosen't have multiple versions of these uniforms...
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I agree. There needs to be some boy scout/girl scout uniforms available, if not an exact replica of the official Boy/Girl Scouts of America.
Like this? https://www.daz3d.com/classic-boy-scout-for-genesis-8-males
That's the one I was talking about when I said that the only one I can currently find wasn't very good. It's a Geneisis 8 uniform that looks like it was made back in the Genesis 2 days.
It looks too basic. And who every heard of a scout uniform without badges and patches? VERY underwhelming...
And, as I also said, no G8 girlscout uniform exist at all. Criminal, just criminal...
Well it might not be to your liking, but the quality of the classic boy scout uniform is fairly high, better than many other outfits in the store. There is nothing stopping you from finding the badges you want online and applying them to the texture for the look you need. Considering the small niche this fills, I doubt you will see another one, of better quality for awhile if at all.
My mom.
I never though of the Boy/Girl Scouts as a "small niche". I always thought that they were a very big part of the fabric american life, over the last 100 years.
Howerver, I guess I was wrong. People don't seem interested in renders of the Boy and Girl scouts. I stand corrected.
Plus, the Scout's image is somewhat tainted at the moment as I can't seem to avoid TV ads urging people to sue the organization for charges of sexual misconduct.
Redfern, you say that the Scout movement is somewhat tainted at the moment since you see certain adverts from parties with potential vested interests. With all due respect that sounds like gossip to me. Do you have actual evidence of misconduct within the Scout Movement? How would you compare behaviour of the leaders of the Scout movement with other large organisations? Do you think it reasonable that the misbehaviour of a few individuals in a particular organisation should have serious repercussions on people outside that organisation? In this case, I'm thinking about PAs who make 3d clothing.
Sexual abuse within the Boy Scouts is so well documented that at this point, it takes some effort NOT to know about it.
...and does this mean that 3d artists should not make scouts uniforms?
If you apply this logic in general then most of what is made for 3d characters would not be allowed.
I said nothing whatsoever on that particular topic.
And that is quite enough of that particular side-track, thank you.
Putting all controversy aside and getting the thread back on track, I agree that there should be a scout uniform for both genders, from Cub Scouts and Camp Fire Blue Birds all the way to the older kids. I should clarify that the traditional uniform many of today's adults all grew up with, particularly in the 1970s and 1980s, is something that is very much lacking in the Shop, or wherever.
It's more than a little odd that there's no girl scout outfit in the store, not only because of the general bias in favor of female-oriented products, but also because I personally see girl scouts WAY more often than boy scouts, owing to those damned infernal cookies.
https://www.daz3d.com/space-scout-sadie The Galactic Girl Guides need you!
Here you raise a good point. If the general trend were applied, you would expect to see more Girl Scouts uniforms than Boy Scouts uniforms. It is curious that you do not.
Daz is all about the "I'm no Girl Scout" costumes.
Honestly, that's a very niche product.
The market for Daz content is quite small overall. Children stuff already don't sell much, because many customers don't render children at all. Not all people who buy children clothes would be interested in rendering boy/girl scouts, and even less US ones (because guess what, scouts uniforms are not the same in all countries).
So no, it's not really surprising at all there aren't "multiple versions of those uniforms" available.
I have nowhere near the expertise to create professional level outfits. But I'd wager that if someone DID create some good ones, they'ed make some good money. I'll bet that they would become a rapid best seller..
Until they get sued.
Sued for what?
There's already a G8M outfit in the Daz store called "Classic Boy Scout". If Nobody is being sued for that, then why not a "Classic Cub Scout" uniform? Or "Classic Girl Scout"? Or "Classic Brownie"?
I'd take you up on that wager.
Look at what's on sale in the shop at the moment. How much of it is specialised children's clothing? There is ZERO evidence of a massive demand for children's clothes, or that a scout uniform would prove a moneyspinning best seller.
I don't know exactly what uniform(s) you are trying to recreate, but my suggestion would be to kitbash something together from stuff that's already out there, because a PA's unlikely to invest the time in making a new one.
I actually bought that one some while ago. I am kind of irritated with myself, though, because I just narrowly missed buying the cute, sorta-cartoony alien girl scouts characters that were also available in a bundle that outfit used to come in. I was actually more interested in the alien girls than I was the retro-future outfits, but am happy to have the retro-future girl scout outfits at least.
On the other hand, looking at that space girl-scouts outfit just now... it suddenly occured to me that if you reshadered that sash to a sort of brown burlepy sort of fabric, and gave the girl forehead-bumps, she could pass for Klingon. :D
I guess it's the old "agree to disagree" situation. As I said before, the Scouts have a HUGE place in American cultural history and their uniforms are iconic. I'm not trying to say that they'll outsell all of the sci-fi fantasy stuff that seems to dominate the Daz store, however, there must be a decently sized part of the Daz community that whats to recreate "regular" scenes of American life. (Little League, Football, Picnics,Souting, etc). Both me and my sister were Scouts growing up and it was a big part of our lives. It wasn't all pedos going after children, you know. For the vast, Vast, VAST majority of kids that went through it, Scouting was a great experience.
There must be others like me.... Are you out there, or am I just WILDLY overestimating how iconic the Scouts have been in American life?
Maybe I am... I've been wrong before... :)
Of course, maybe
Or underestimating the market share for pictures and comics you don't want your kids to see, although there is an abundance of japanese (sailor) school uniforms
I was a boy scout and my sister was a brownie, so I can understand the sentiment. There are lots of American icons that are not very well represented in 3D here in the store, so it;'s not just scouts. Kitbashing is a way of life in 3D and what most turn to when an actual outfit doesn't exist in the store. That being said, normal users really have no idea if something would sell or not, the PAs are the ones that have the best knowledge, unfortunately since this is a very small 3D market, most of them tend to play it safe and produce what they know will sell instead of taking chances on things that might not.
Personally I never render children and usually don't render "everyday" type scenes
Sure, the people that want to dress women up in "sexy" versions of these clothes are out there. But, that is true of almost every article of clothing or uniform that exists. Based on that logic, there would be no cheerleader outfits or schoolgirl uniforms or even nun outfits. Hell, almost no clothing would exist for females at all if the bar was "maybe someone will turn it sexy".
Really? How much of the stuff on sale in the store today is aimed at "recreating regular scenes of American life"? Because if that's what a "decently sized part of the Daz community" is doing, they're being spectacularly ill served by the various people selling them content. Judging by what appears to sell, and by what people post to their galleries here and elsewhere, I suspect that "regular scenes of American life" come a long way down the list of potential subject matter.
I hope you find what you're looking for, but don't assume that because you want something there must be zillions of other people wanting it too.
Man I wish there were a "zillion" users using DS, LOL
As an ex-girlscout/brownie of the late 50s/60s era, I hope no one ever brings those uniforms to 3D. Horrible, you couldn't do anything in them if you were a girl, other than sit like a little lady.
I did a search for images of boy and girl scouts and came up with some basic wear that seems to be prevelant around the world:
Camp shirts, tee shirts, long sleeve shirts, hiking and knee shorts, dress and hiking pants, vests on the girls, some skirts/kilts depending on culture for both sexes, tennis shoes, hiking boots, knee and hiking and sports socks, baseball hats, pith helmets (or 'Smokie the Bear hats' or a cloth version), flight caps, berets, (other ethnic hats), neckties of a variety of sorts, badges inclued the circle ones, the group number ones (individual numbers, lined up on shoulder), the official scout badge (this I expect is copyrighted). And kids mix in their school clothes or commercial hiking or extreme weather/sports clothing, depending on activities.
The younger your character is, the baggier or oversized the clothing should be in relation to the size of the child's body. Parents buy so the child can grow into clothing.
Colors range from white, beiges, dulled greens, browns, blues, and red.
Some of those items are available in Daz now, and with shaders could be updated. Some of the military sets might provide some of the numbered patches or maybe someone could make a simple prop of round and unusual shapes that could be used as patches, where a person could put their own copy of a patch or whatever. This might be used for other Sci-Fi uniforms and such too. But I would be very careful of the copyright issue as others have noted.