Cleopatra 8.1 Ancient Treasure Bundle - The continuing decline of DAZ bundles

CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,058

Seriously?  This may be the most anemic, overpriced bundle yet. 

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,888

    Yeah. I actually like everything in the bundle except the price and I already own several Egyptian themed items from previous bundles that weren't very long ago. No freebies, store credit, orange banners or deals of any kind?

  • shadem980shadem980 Posts: 48

    Eh, I guess the HD is her character though, so you don't have to buy that separate.

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,889
    edited March 2021

    Depending on what you've purchased during the sale and what other Mad items you include in the cart, the price can drop to a more or less reasonable $38.25 in the cart. $7 per item isn't unreasonable. A seven-item bundle is ... unusual. Though apparently she includes her HD, which Michael, Victoria, and Torment did not, but White Priestess did. (Assuming Cleopatra's product description is correct, and her HD does seem to be included in the readme file list for her. I wonder if this means that Cleopatra is an Artstation character? Included HD and attenuated bundles seem to be the norm for them.)

    I actually like the bundle, surprisingly enough. But ... they've now done THREE Egyptian female themed bundles in the past six months. I suppose the Ancient Egyptian Oasis Bundle would theoretically count as a sorta kinda vaguely thinking about being a male bundle -- if you squint real hard -- but they don't have Akhenaten 8, he's just plain Mst Akhenaten. I mean, I like him, but it's not at all the same thing. Also, four Egyptian themed bundle in six months seems like more than the traffic can bear, really.

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  • jd641jd641 Posts: 459

    To me she seems cartoon-ish/stylized so I'm not interested in the character... unless it's just the promo images not doing a good job of conveying realism in the figure. If it's a stylistic choice, I hope it's not going to be a continuing trend in DA figures but at least for now it saves me money.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 5,937

    I think AntFarm did an excellent job on his set piece. I own tons of Egyptian sets, but his brings something unique and instantly cinematic to the lot. The treasure and the weapons are a nice touch too. The outfits and hair seem well-made, but I already have several versions of the same thing. Now, Cleopatra 8.1 unfortunately (for me) seems stuck on the same bridge between realism and fantasy that Victoria 8.1 is on and that White Priestess was able to cross due to a more distinctive and detailed morph.

    If they'd commission Josh Crockett to do a real Akhenaten 8.1, I'd get interested real fast.

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  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,307

    Folks, does anything say "Happy St.Patrick's Day" like an Egyptian bundle?  I don't think so.

  • Well, I like the content of the bundle. But getting no incentives is more and more hard to swallow. There are a couple of Bundles I do not have (like Juan Carlos) which are listet in related sections but not getting a higher discount. One could get higher discounts on Related Mad (which holdes the Egyptian themed bundles sold before. So I would have at least expected a banner with an additional discount for owners of the earlier Egyptian bundles. So I really need to think twice if this is good enough to seperate me from some of the store credit I recently acquired.

  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,594

    If you happend to buy any or both of the White Priestress bundles, you should see an orange banner. It would have made more sense to get a discount if you own any of the recent Egypt-themed bundles. 

    I do agree that I have seen better bundles, but it is quite fine, if all the discounts fall into place. For me it ended up at $32.92 in the cart, which is an acceptable price for the contents. 

  • Hurdy3DHurdy3D Posts: 1,047

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    If you happend to buy any or both of the White Priestress bundles, you should see an orange banner. It would have made more sense to get a discount if you own any of the recent Egypt-themed bundles. 

    I do agree that I have seen better bundles, but it is quite fine, if all the discounts fall into place. For me it ended up at $32.92 in the cart, which is an acceptable price for the contents. 

    I have one White Pristress bundle and don't see any banner.

    And I agree, again a very bad deal, compared to former pro bundles.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,888

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    If you happend to buy any or both of the White Priestress bundles, you should see an orange banner. It would have made more sense to get a discount if you own any of the recent Egypt-themed bundles. 

    I do agree that I have seen better bundles, but it is quite fine, if all the discounts fall into place. For me it ended up at $32.92 in the cart, which is an acceptable price for the contents. 

    I purchased the White Priestess bundle but have no banner...

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,457

    xyer0 said:

    I think AntFarm did an excellent job on his set piece. I own tons of Egyptian sets, but his brings something unique and instantly cinematic to the lot. The treasure and the weapons are a nice touch too. The outfits and hair seem well-made, but I already have several versions of the same thing. Now, Cleopatra 8.1 unfortunately (for me) seems stuck on the same bridge between realism and fantasy that Victoria 8.1 is on and that White Priestess was able to cross due to a more distinctive and detailed morph.

    If they'd commission Josh Crockett to do a real Akhenaten 8.1, I'd get interested real fast.

    image

    I couldn't have put it better. yes

  • Rod Wise DriggoRod Wise Driggo Posts: 2,211
    edited March 2021

    Same here, got the first white priestress but no banner. I still have $38 (with the 10% item-kicker and an 2nd new release). That is still not that much of an incentive for figure + 2 cloth, 1 hair and an environment. I don't count props.

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  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,889

    xyer0 said:

    I think AntFarm did an excellent job on his set piece. I own tons of Egyptian sets, but his brings something unique and instantly cinematic to the lot. The treasure and the weapons are a nice touch too. The outfits and hair seem well-made, but I already have several versions of the same thing. Now, Cleopatra 8.1 unfortunately (for me) seems stuck on the same bridge between realism and fantasy that Victoria 8.1 is on and that White Priestess was able to cross due to a more distinctive and detailed morph.

    If they'd commission Josh Crockett to do a real Akhenaten 8.1, I'd get interested real fast.

    image

    AntFarm's Egyptian Oasis is gorgeous, I agree. I'd get that on its own, but it looks like it doesn't have rigged walls, according to the file list, which will make rendering and working with the inside a bit of a pain. Decisions, decisions...

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,385

    gerster said:

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    If you happend to buy any or both of the White Priestress bundles, you should see an orange banner. It would have made more sense to get a discount if you own any of the recent Egypt-themed bundles. 

    I do agree that I have seen better bundles, but it is quite fine, if all the discounts fall into place. For me it ended up at $32.92 in the cart, which is an acceptable price for the contents. 

    I have one White Pristress bundle and don't see any banner.

    And I agree, again a very bad deal, compared to former pro bundles.

    The coupon stipulates both bundles were purchased.

  • Phew. IMO not that customer friendly if this kicks only if both of those themed mini bundles are purchased leaving out buyers of all the former Egyptian themed bundles. 
    I bought Twosret, Khemsit and the Oasis bundle and don't get that coupon on todays new Egyptian themed bundle. Not nice.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,169

    Finally, in honor of Saint Patrick's Day, yet another character to portray Princess Scota of Egypt, who married Goidel Glas, sailed to the edge of the world, and founded the Scots and Gails.  Can I use the terms 'finally' and 'yet another' in the same sentence?  Yes, if we are talking about founding myths for which archaeologists search for legitimate evidence.

    Slainte.

    https://celticraven.com/10-an-old-irish-legend-about-an-ancient-egyptian-princess.html

     

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  • HeraHera Posts: 1,957

    Were ancient Egypt a solely female society?
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    (Sorry, couldn't resist)

  • Hurdy3DHurdy3D Posts: 1,047

    Cris Palomino said:

    gerster said:

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    If you happend to buy any or both of the White Priestress bundles, you should see an orange banner. It would have made more sense to get a discount if you own any of the recent Egypt-themed bundles. 

    I do agree that I have seen better bundles, but it is quite fine, if all the discounts fall into place. For me it ended up at $32.92 in the cart, which is an acceptable price for the contents. 

    I have one White Pristress bundle and don't see any banner.

    And I agree, again a very bad deal, compared to former pro bundles.

    The coupon stipulates both bundles were purchased.

    okay, that's than an easy choice if I buy that bundle.

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,130

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    If you happend to buy any or both of the White Priestress bundles, you should see an orange banner. It would have made more sense to get a discount if you own any of the recent Egypt-themed bundles. 

    I do agree that I have seen better bundles, but it is quite fine, if all the discounts fall into place. For me it ended up at $32.92 in the cart, which is an acceptable price for the contents. 

    This is the avalanche-effect of the offered coupon never working on that bundle, thus not buying that, thus not getting a banner for this one and not buying this either. I was afraid of something like this during the Madness sale. But do not despair, there's always another sale! :D

  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026

    For USD 38.73 as it shows in my cart, I am tempted to pull the trigger.

    What I really love about Cleopatra 8.1 is her height of 163 cm. She is not your typical modern tall model, 180 cm or even taller. Awesome.yes

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited March 2021

    The thing that is making me go What????????? is part of the included content:

    • Genesis 8 Male Anatomical Elements

    They might be a treasure for Cleopatra ... ROTFL

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  • Still making up my mind if I should get it but as already pointed out there are some bad things to this deal:

    - All the former Egyptian themed bundles don't account for discounts
    - Both White Priestress do although there was a big flaw which a coupon with the second bundle which prevented me from purchasing

    Another thing which bothers me. It's fine that there are a lot of kitbashed promos done. But it is harder and harder to really understand what is in the bundle and what not and whether this stuff is from a prior bundle or available at DAZ at all. Why not provide additional, color coded images which black-and-white things which you are not purchasing or use the section on additional prodcuts used?

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,194
    edited March 2021

    For USD 38.73 as it shows in my cart, I am tempted to pull the trigger.

    What I really love about Cleopatra 8.1 is her height of 163 cm. She is not your typical modern tall model, 180 cm or even taller. Awesome.yes

    I use the scaling morphs that come with Sangriart's Osuine and Kayleyss' Aurore to get my G8Fs to be about that size. Osuine is smaller than Aurore.
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  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    For USD 38.73 as it shows in my cart, I am tempted to pull the trigger.

    What I really love about Cleopatra 8.1 is her height of 163 cm. She is not your typical modern tall model, 180 cm or even taller. Awesome.yes

    I use the scaling morphs that come with Sangriart's Osuine and Kayleyss' Aurore to get my G8Fs to be about that size. Osuine is smaller than Aurore.
    What's wrong with the height morph in the base morphs? Just curious.
  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,194

    For USD 38.73 as it shows in my cart, I am tempted to pull the trigger.

    What I really love about Cleopatra 8.1 is her height of 163 cm. She is not your typical modern tall model, 180 cm or even taller. Awesome.yes

    I use the scaling morphs that come with Sangriart's Osuine and Kayleyss' Aurore to get my G8Fs to be about that size. Osuine is smaller than Aurore.
    What's wrong with the height morph in the base morphs? Just curious.
    Sometimes that scale morph is "baked in". So if you're making a mix character and dial in a short base, the character will get short. There's times you want the shape but not the size. As much as I love to mix with her, I have this problem with Mei Lin 8.
  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 740

    $38.73  that equals $5.53 per item (note, an additional MAD item is required for this price)

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    An average sale of a G8 pro bundle last year (outside big sale months) was arround $66 for 14 to 15 items (bundle + addons). That was less than $4.7 + CREDIT and/or FREEBIES + Huge additional discounts that could go up to 80%. All that before any orange(purple) banner.

    IF that was during a big sale month, then the price per item was less than $3.5 easily + and all the extra benefits even bigger.

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    4th Egipt main bundle, no male main figure; no extra perks; expensive even by standars outside big sale months......yeah, pass.

  • Wolfwood said:

    $38.73  that equals $5.53 per item (note, an additional MAD item is required for this price)

    ---------

    An average sale of a G8 pro bundle last year (outside big sale months) was arround $66 for 14 to 15 items (bundle + addons). That was less than $4.7 + CREDIT and/or FREEBIES + Huge additional discounts that could go up to 80%. All that before any orange(purple) banner.

    IF that was during a big sale month, then the price per item was less than $3.5 easily + and all the extra benefits even bigger.

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    4th Egipt main bundle, no male main figure; no extra perks; expensive even by standars outside big sale months......yeah, pass.

    Yep. Not really good, that's for sure. Guess one might get a little extra on the soon to follow 5th egyption style bundle. But this bundle will then probably contain some more animations I do not need. Bummer.

     

  • LucielLuciel Posts: 475
    edited March 2021

    MimicMolly said:

    certaintree38 said:

    MimicMolly said:

    watchdog79 said:

    For USD 38.73 as it shows in my cart, I am tempted to pull the trigger.

    What I really love about Cleopatra 8.1 is her height of 163 cm. She is not your typical modern tall model, 180 cm or even taller. Awesome.yes

    I use the scaling morphs that come with Sangriart's Osuine and Kayleyss' Aurore to get my G8Fs to be about that size. Osuine is smaller than Aurore.
    What's wrong with the height morph in the base morphs? Just curious.
    Sometimes that scale morph is "baked in". So if you're making a mix character and dial in a short base, the character will get short. There's times you want the shape but not the size. As much as I love to mix with her, I have this problem with Mei Lin 8.

    Can't you just use the seperate body/head morphs instead so it doesn't change the scaling? Those morphs shouldn't contain scaling like the "Chracter" morphs do.

     

    Left is Aiko dialed in completely, right is aiko body and head dialed in completely (and is still the standard height). 

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  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 545

    Is the Deokogon stuff still free on Unreal?  I think it's permanently free....

    https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/9efde82ef29746fcbb2cb0e45e714f43

    Or $22.95 here

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,223

    dortybassa said:

    Is the Deokogon stuff still free on Unreal?  I think it's permanently free....

    https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/9efde82ef29746fcbb2cb0e45e714f43

    Or $22.95 here

    its not easy to export from Unreal into DAZ studio though, I do so often but it's a lot of work

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