Cleopatra 8.1 Ancient Treasure Bundle - The continuing decline of DAZ bundles

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Kerya said:

    The thing that is making me go What????????? is part of the included content:

    • Genesis 8 Male Anatomical Elements

    They might be a treasure for Cleopatra ... ROTFL

    That is the reason for not needing a male counterpart wink 

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    MimicMolly said:

    certaintree38 said:

    MimicMolly said:

    watchdog79 said:

    For USD 38.73 as it shows in my cart, I am tempted to pull the trigger.

    What I really love about Cleopatra 8.1 is her height of 163 cm. She is not your typical modern tall model, 180 cm or even taller. Awesome.yes

    I use the scaling morphs that come with Sangriart's Osuine and Kayleyss' Aurore to get my G8Fs to be about that size. Osuine is smaller than Aurore.
    What's wrong with the height morph in the base morphs? Just curious.
    Sometimes that scale morph is "baked in". So if you're making a mix character and dial in a short base, the character will get short. There's times you want the shape but not the size. As much as I love to mix with her, I have this problem with Mei Lin 8.

    Not at home at the moment, so can't check but some height-morphs are just scaling the length of bones, and these morphs are not transferred to clothing and hair that's fitted to the character.
    Apparently not much of a problem with clothing and hair that's created for the base figure in question, but when you fit something created for another generation, the fitted item doesn't always understand/follow the height-morph.

    I just spent some time to figure out what was the problem with fitting some clothing to a character.

  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 545

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    dortybassa said:

    Is the Deokogon stuff still free on Unreal?  I think it's permanently free....

    https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/9efde82ef29746fcbb2cb0e45e714f43

    Or $22.95 here

    its not easy to export from Unreal into DAZ studio though, I do so often but it's a lot of work

     

    I understand that but it just seems like an odd business model to be selling repackaged free products... then adding an interactive license price.......

  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 742

    dortybassa said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    dortybassa said:

    Is the Deokogon stuff still free on Unreal?  I think it's permanently free....

    https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/9efde82ef29746fcbb2cb0e45e714f43

    Or $22.95 here

    its not easy to export from Unreal into DAZ studio though, I do so often but it's a lot of work

     

    I understand that but it just seems like an odd business model to be selling repackaged free products... then adding an interactive license price.......

    They (daz and dekogon) did similar with the Subway train. But i think in that case they at least added the actual tunnel environment that i don't see in the unreal store.

    There is also an overlap of other dekogon products like the western guns, but is way cheaper here at DAZ than on the other store.

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 2,581
    edited March 2021

    I will add that despite being a ruler of Egypt, Cleopatra was of the Ptolemaic dynasty, and therefore actually of Greek ethnicity:

    EDIT: I'll note that I actually like her, but Cleopatra it really isn't.

    Post edited by Matt_Castle on
  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,307

    dortybassa said:

    Is the Deokogon stuff still free on Unreal?  I think it's permanently free....

    https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/9efde82ef29746fcbb2cb0e45e714f43

    Or $22.95 here

    What "the Dekogon stuff".  There are only 5 free items at the UE store, and they're not converted to DUF.  The rest doesn't look free to me.  And the treasures are USD 11.25 when I look at them.

     

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,307

    dortybassa said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    dortybassa said:

    Is the Deokogon stuff still free on Unreal?  I think it's permanently free....

    https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/9efde82ef29746fcbb2cb0e45e714f43

    Or $22.95 here

    its not easy to export from Unreal into DAZ studio though, I do so often but it's a lot of work

     

    I understand that but it just seems like an odd business model to be selling repackaged free products... then adding an interactive license price.......

    It's a pretty common business model.  Packaging is the majority of the cost for a lot of things.  Companies sell bottled tap water all the time.  Companies sell fish from the sea.  Companies sell liquid oxygen.  

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,223
    edited March 2021

    it was free for a month quite a while ago

    Epic has lots of limited time freebies, if you miss out you miss out and have to buy it

    I still bought the subway set for example at DAZ even though I got the train and subway free as Unreal assets

    I may get that treasure too one day as exporting stuff from Unreal is very iffy

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • benniewoodellbenniewoodell Posts: 1,969

    I never realized how popular Ancient Egypt was until the past few months here at Daz. Everything looks very nice, I'll pick up the character for sure, but seems to me they could have done a different theme that wasn't covered so recently. 

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,058

    Matt_Castle said:

    I will add that despite being a ruler of Egypt, Cleopatra was of the Ptolemaic dynasty, and therefore actually of Greek ethnicity:

    True, but DAZ isn't exactly known for being accurate with factual or historical details, are they?  It's pretty egregious here, though, since thanks to sculptures and coins from during her actual reign, there are multiple actual likenesses of the real Cleopatra that were made during her reign and, needless to say, the DAZ version isn't even remotely close.  

      

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,058

    shadem980 said:

    Eh, I guess the HD is her character though, so you don't have to buy that separate.

    Too bad that it's not good HD.  That skin in the face close up is... 

  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 545

    Sevrin said:

    dortybassa said:

    Is the Deokogon stuff still free on Unreal?  I think it's permanently free....

    https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/9efde82ef29746fcbb2cb0e45e714f43

    Or $22.95 here

    What "the Dekogon stuff".  There are only 5 free items at the UE store, and they're not converted to DUF.  The rest doesn't look free to me.  And the treasures are USD 11.25 when I look at them.

     

     

    The treasures are permanently free so maybe your local.  Lots of pushback for trying to save folf a few pounds, I will learn. 

    Very easy to export a few items and change a few materials.

  • Romulus71Romulus71 Posts: 144

    Cleo 8.1 looks kind of cartoonish to me, reminds me of Mike 8.1, perhaps the same artist did both. I don't think the bundle is too bad but I much prefer the earlier 5' 4 Egyptian queen, Twosret.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,307

    dortybassa said:

    Sevrin said:

    dortybassa said:

    Is the Deokogon stuff still free on Unreal?  I think it's permanently free....

    https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/9efde82ef29746fcbb2cb0e45e714f43

    Or $22.95 here

    What "the Dekogon stuff".  There are only 5 free items at the UE store, and they're not converted to DUF.  The rest doesn't look free to me.  And the treasures are USD 11.25 when I look at them.

     

     

    The treasures are permanently free so maybe your local.  Lots of pushback for trying to save folf a few pounds, I will learn. 

    Very easy to export a few items and change a few materials.

    Daz did not get the items for free.  They had pay to license them.  And the whole point of the Daz store is that items are ready to use.  It's no secret that there are free items available elsewhere that can be made to work.  It's not everyone's idea of fun to convert dozens of props when there's an inexpensive alternative.

  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 545
    Sevrin said:

    dortybassa said:

    Sevrin said:

    dortybassa said:

    Is the Deokogon stuff still free on Unreal?  I think it's permanently free....

    https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/9efde82ef29746fcbb2cb0e45e714f43

    Or $22.95 here

    What "the Dekogon stuff".  There are only 5 free items at the UE store, and they're not converted to DUF.  The rest doesn't look free to me.  And the treasures are USD 11.25 when I look at them.

     

     

    The treasures are permanently free so maybe your local.  Lots of pushback for trying to save folf a few pounds, I will learn. 

    Very easy to export a few items and change a few materials.

    Daz did not get the items for free.  They had pay to license them.  And the whole point of the Daz store is that items are ready to use.  It's no secret that there are free items available elsewhere that can be made to work.  It's not everyone's idea of fun to convert dozens of props when there's an inexpensive alternative.

    Totally agree with you. Just a heads up to the frugal not a call to arms.
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,223
    edited March 2021

    dortybassa said:

    Sevrin said:

    dortybassa said:

    Is the Deokogon stuff still free on Unreal?  I think it's permanently free....

    https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/9efde82ef29746fcbb2cb0e45e714f43

    Or $22.95 here

    What "the Dekogon stuff".  There are only 5 free items at the UE store, and they're not converted to DUF.  The rest doesn't look free to me.  And the treasures are USD 11.25 when I look at them.

     

     

    The treasures are permanently free so maybe your local.  Lots of pushback for trying to save folf a few pounds, I will learn. 

    Very easy to export a few items and change a few materials.

    if they are in the Permanently Free collection ( I cannot check now or would have) then you cannot use them outside Unreal so the DAZ export license is still good for Unity users for example 

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,627

    Sevrin said:

    dortybassa said:

    Is the Deokogon stuff still free on Unreal?  I think it's permanently free....

    https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/9efde82ef29746fcbb2cb0e45e714f43

    Or $22.95 here

    What "the Dekogon stuff".  There are only 5 free items at the UE store, and they're not converted to DUF.  The rest doesn't look free to me.  And the treasures are USD 11.25 when I look at them.

     

    I just tried that link and it came up as free for me so I "bought" it. It reminded me to look at this month's limited free selection. I've built up quite a collection of free stuff for Unreal Engine, I should try and find time to work out how to use it. I was following a series of tutorial videos on Youtube but I've sort of stalled on that and not looked at them for a while.

    As for Cleopatra's Ancient Treasure Bundle, it looks good but I've already got quite a lot of similar stuff. I've almost used up my last discounted gift card credit and I've just got my council tax bill for this year so I think I'll pass on this one, nice though it is.

  • LucielLuciel Posts: 475

    Cybersox said:

    Matt_Castle said:

    I will add that despite being a ruler of Egypt, Cleopatra was of the Ptolemaic dynasty, and therefore actually of Greek ethnicity:

    True, but DAZ isn't exactly known for being accurate with factual or historical details, are they?  It's pretty egregious here, though, since thanks to sculptures and coins from during her actual reign, there are multiple actual likenesses of the real Cleopatra that were made during her reign and, needless to say, the DAZ version isn't even remotely close.  

      

    I feel the most egregrious thing is that they didn't put "comin atcha" anywhere in the product description or even the promotional material. 

  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 545

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    if they are in the Permanently Free collection ( I cannot check now or would have) then you cannot use them outside Unreal so the DAZ export license is still good for Unity users for example 

     

    That's another debate for a different forum :) but... as Epic didn't get this created exclusivly for Unreal Engine I'm still happy I could use this free asset in Unity, Godot etc....  Now being sold here makes me doubly sure

    Or a meringue

  • ChaosophiaChaosophia Posts: 137
    edited March 2021

    Cybersox said:

    Seriously?  This may be the most anemic, overpriced bundle yet. 

    I would have to agree with Cybersox on this. I haven't been too enthuised with the Mad items, a few PC items, but nothing really making me want to load a cart yet.

    Post edited by Chaosophia on
  • ArgleSWArgleSW Posts: 144

    I hope the cartoonish art style of this character isnt the future vision of Daz going forward. 

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,194
    edited March 2021
    Does anyone know if the vellus hair is included with her? There was some post saying that they were gonna include it with all the other 8.1 Base Characters, after what happened with Victoria but White Priestess 8.1 didn't have it. (I got White Priestess because of her looks more than the promise of the hair.)
    Post edited by MimicMolly on
  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169

    Sevrin said:

    Folks, does anything say "Happy St.Patrick's Day" like an Egyptian bundle?  I don't think so.

     

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169

    Too stylized for my tastes. I'll stick with Twosret.

    Laurie

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited March 2021

    shadem980 said:

    Eh, I guess the HD is her character though, so you don't have to buy that separate.

    As it should be, especially when you consider PAs produce characters with HD for much, much less.

    I like the bundle, and the 3 items I'm interested in about match the price in my cart.

    I agree though, it is a long way from a $122 bundle.

    Post edited by nicstt on
  • gsil247gsil247 Posts: 223

    I like it but for me it comes out to $46.48. Not sure that price is enough for my budget with no extras like we had in the past. I do think this is nice, but I'll probably just get one or two things instead of the entire bundle. 

  • HylasHylas Posts: 4,988

    I find this interpretation of Cleopatra underwhelming. Both Twosret and Khemsit have more character and are more realistic. If you want toon I think there are several better options... Akila comes to mind.

  • HylasHylas Posts: 4,988

    Luciel said:

    I feel the most egregrious thing is that they didn't put "comin atcha" anywhere in the product description or even the promotional material. 

    High Five!

  • mr clammr clam Posts: 707

    Well, at least the bundle doesn't have a wooden club that costs $16 or a $17 loin cloth.

    https://www.daz3d.com/ogre-camp-bundle

  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,672

    mr clam said:

    Well, at least the bundle doesn't have a wooden club that costs $16 or a $17 loin cloth.

    https://www.daz3d.com/ogre-camp-bundle

    You need the $16 club to keep people from peeking under the $17 loin cloth. 

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