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It's Alisa. With lighter skin. Do I win anything? If I get a prize - I want the Alisa character.
wrong nose
mystery girl has little nostril showing and no flaring
It's an illusion. It's Alisa. I superimposed mystery-girl over Alisa and made her 50% transparent.
Not a perfect match, but IMHO Kharia HD is pretty close.
Below is my render of Alisa.
Does not look alike at all to the promo image.
Alisa with her smile (included in the set) with skin from Pei:
https://www.daz3d.com/pei-and-pei-suit-for-genesis-8-female
Some dial spining with a Gou Luk base and texture then adding and subtracting percentages of Alisa And Kayla at various intensities.
I have rendered RN HD Judy Love 8.1 (also from RareStone and Nirvana duo),
but this character require even more changes to be similar to the promo from the first post.
Rarestone tends to add morphs that make the nose and chin diminutive, so if you can remove all of that, it might look better.
https://www.daz3d.com/nirv-fashion-stylized-bob-hair
Maybe you could position and pose your Alisa model the same as it is in the full frontal image 3rd from the left https://www.daz3d.com/nirv-fashion-stylized-bob-hair
It's definitely The Millennium Creeper... with a morph... I think... I didn't really read any of the other posts, I just skipped to the end because I wouldn't recognize any characters anyway and I wanted to add my two cents despite that.
Let me know if I was right... or close... or you want me to stop interrupting serious threads with random images and opinions.
I won't really stop, but I like to know how annoying I'm being...
It's really just a hobby, but I like to hone my skills.
LOL! That's great, @McGyver . Thanks for interrupting
I think the nose is a little different.
The thing about that character that I cannot help but notice is how soft the shadows on the cheeks are...almost too soft. Her face is soft, yet the surrounding pic is noticeably less soft...
I am certainly not an expert here, but I actually now think these girls look so different because they never were actual models in the first place. I believe that some form of post was used, or even FaceApp. Around the time these products were released, FaceApp was taking off. I think the smiles on these girls look so amazing in promos because they are FaceApp smiles, not anything from Daz. That is why they look so soft, too. Notice that the smiles on the promos of released characters have more defined lines and shadows. Only this one mysterious character looks that way. Plus the mystery girl has a more natural smile, that is why so many people wanted the character to begin with, and why nobody can come remotely close to matching the smile this mystery girl has. And this is all fine, because the products being sold with these promos were not characters or smile expressions.
I could be totally wrong, but I find it strange that Rarestone would choose to never release this character that so many people were asking for. If she had released this girl, she would have sold through the roof!
...that jsut made my evening.
there has been controversy in this forum before about mixing real life with renders in promos.
as long as the thing being sold is represented accurately I guess any sort of postwork on the rest of the scene is permitted, which would include AI editing of faces maybe not even using a DAZ model's face.
the bottom line is they are not selling the figure only the hair, she is like a mannequin.
And she may be a bespoke sculpt too they choose to keep exclusively for promos like AS Alice, MattyManX's girl or that one everyone asks about based on Osuine
It's Alisa. Rarestone altered her nose making it not upturned. The proportions of the face are exactly the same. The jaw line and cheek line are exactly the same. Everybody is making a big deal that the ready-made smile that comes with Alisa wasn't used. So - she used a different smile. The smile is exactly the same in some of the hair produrt images. I lightened Alisa's skin. This is getting tiresome.
Looking at the promo images closely, there's no doubt Nirv used faceapp or something similar to achieve the final look, so there is sadly no model tweaks that'll achieve the same result. Some really good suggestions in the comments though, and i'll definitely be able to pull off something that feels similar because of your help. Thank you guys!
Agree, people were fizzing for the original Judy Love and the final version bore no resemblence. I reckon RS would have released these characters if they could have made them work.
She's not Alisa, at least not without a heap of morphing. I have Alisa and have not been able to duplicate that render even though I can get the smile almost identical and it's not only the nose. RS characters are more angular and less soft and 'pretty'.
Neither of these look exactly like the promo model- but both are Rarestone girls modified with Rarestone headmorphs and default Daz ones. (Left Judy Love) right Kayla. I think if you played around with a Rarestone girl and applied a skin you like you could probably get really, really close to the promo model.
You have spotted a very nice looking character and started an interesting discussion here.
Published Artists quite often use a specially crafted characters to bring potential buyers interest to their products.
Rarely, they provide such characters to the broader audience, though.
They are NOT the same. Look at the first two side by side pics again. Her mouth is different. I own Alisa. Alisa's lips have extremely strong peaks, and no smile is going to flatten those crazy peaks completely out. The unknown girl has exactly zero peak on her lips. Her lip is totally flat. That just doesn't happen with Genesis. So a different nose AND a different mouth...at what point does she become a different character? Rarestone had several similar looking characters.
Additionally, the hair product released before Alisa did, 9 months earlier. I point this out because the promo pics that Rarestone had been doing were driving people crazy. People were begging Rarestone to release this character to the store. So if that character became Alisa, the Rarestone didn't release the same character that was in the promos. Which begs the question of why? Response to Alisa was ok, but I think it should be clear to anyone reading this that if Alisa looked like that girl in the Nirv hair promos then she would have sold way more than she did. The Alisa that released has such a strong morph that she becomes cartoonish, and this was a complaint lodged against Alisa. I considered returning her, because her morph appears toonier than the pormos present her. Yet people were clamoring for the smile in the promos because of its realism.
This is not the only one like this, either.
There was the long awaited Judy Love. Rarestone set Daz on fire with All Sweet Poses 4th, people were freaking out about the girls in the promos. https://www.daz3d.com/all-sweet-poses-4th-youth-collection
In the promo pics, Rarestone showed several of her characters and even listed their names in the promo pic itself. One pic teased "Judy Love Work in Progress". When Judy finally released as a real product, the character was very different from what was shown in that 4th pose collection. Kind of like what happened here, huh? There was a comment by Rarestone saying that Judy had gone through 25 revisions or something. But I find that very strange, she is saying she deleted or overwrote each version? Hmm. Regardless, whatever happened RS was not able to deliver the character from that promo, either.
It certainly makes one wonder.
Thanks for posting this, @outrider42.
That explains a lot.
Alisa with skin from Kayla and many, many adjustments.
And it came with TWO!! Drool props.
I'm betting none of the other candidates has even one.
I reckon a proper dial spinner could get really close... unfortunately that's not me but the potential is there.
That's very close, you just need a slightly more "makeup'd" skin texture and some lighting from above to highlight the cheekbones
You mean the the character KC Mustang showed, or the Millennium Creeper?
The Millennium Creeper doesn't have any significant makeup options though...
I guess you are probably talking to KC Mustang because of the cheekbones thing too...
But creeper does look fabulous with some lipstick and a nice wig... er... hair style.
yeah...
the 'judy love' shuffle was the daz disappointment of the year, as far as i'm concerned.
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