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That's a decission for AMD and Nvidia; however, as said by Mambanegra, they could be indirectly affected; I can't see that though, at least from AMD.
Agree.
Super Sweet. Now was that Zorin 9 or Zorin 11 as I have two systems each with one of those versions.
Oh and Zorin 12 should be out soon.
For those looking to jump to linux and try zorin go to http://zorinos.com/
Same here, the more you hear of what MS is doing with Win10, the more you want to run from it.
Apparently on the 1 year anniversery of Win10's launch, they put out an update that removes some more control from the user.
Link to arcticle about policies removed
And made their digital spy, one you can not disable anymore.
Cortana cant be disabled article Link
Also if you don't know all search functions use Bing that includes any search you do for a folder or file on your system
I would be interested in what works and what doesn't.
Amen
This is why the Windows boxes here (and VMs) are blocked from getting to the internet completely. No traffic out from them, no traffic in to them. M$ gets no information from me.
Kendall
Agreed. My Studio box has never been online since I validated Win7 and installed Studio 4.9, and it never will. Whether or not Microsquiff supports it, it does what I need it to do and will continue to do so. I will never use Win(Lose)10. When I go online, I use a Linux box.
If your Windows 7 computer works well now, it will after MS stops supporting it. Just take it off line and keep it there. An older computer that will run Linux will cost you less than the Win10 upgrade, anyway.
Ok, guys and gals,
After about a week or so of testing, I believe I can be the first to come up with a comprehensive tutorial on how to run 64bit DS 4.9 on Ubuntu based distros (Ubuntu itself, Linux Mint, Debian) and Fedora Workstation 24. On Debian, knittingmommy's method works. On Linux Mint, Ubuntu proper, and Fedora a slimmed down version of the CupOfLinux procedure that knittingmommy deviated from works:
1) using Winetricks with latest version of Wine
2) installing the following components: vcrun2005, vcrun2010, and corefonts.
Using the following method I install DIM and DS on Linux Mint Sarah (latest version) yesterday. Anyeay this is my method. I present this to the community for futher development and\or scrutiny.
~GO :D
Nice, and I think someone in another thread recommended setting the OS of wine to either Server 2003 or Server 2008
This was done on Manjaro Linux, everything straight out of the box.
Used q4Wine as the wine front end, downloaded DAZ 4.9 and double clicked on the icon. Wine installed it and it works great, only problem is that the sql can't be found. For me it's not a problem as I don't use the smart content pane. I moved myLibrary to another drive before installing Manjero and just pointed DAZ to the new location.
As you can see from the render it is the 64bit version of DAZ and iray works fine.
Another great thing about Manjaro is the painless set up of the nVidia drivers. Blender, Octane Render and DAZ all detected my GTX780 CUDA Cores on installation with no problem.
Haven't installed the Install Manager yet and probably wont try for a while, I have plenty in my library and with the difference in the dolar between Australi and the US I really can't aford to. Add about 35% to the US price for content and that how much it costs in Aus at the moment.
Sorry it is not a very techie explanation on how I got things working but the truth is I didn't have to do anything real techie. So if you are thinking of moving to Linux, Manjaro might be for you.
Note: I tried Ubuntu and Mint before Manjero and never got as far as having the nVidia drivers installed corectly for Blender to see my GTX780, just a lot of crashes and rebooting only to find the graphics not working at all, just a dark screen.
...interesting, I never use the Smart Content pane as I use a custom runtime and library structure on a second drive instead of the boot drive. I also don't like the fact smart content tends to take up a lot of screen real estate.
I have been considering running a dual boot Linux/W7 setup but this is great news.
I am shutting Windows Updates off tomorrow as MS is changing the policy for W7.and 8.1 users in October to where all new updates sill be rolled into one download and install file so you no longer can "cherry pick" which ones to accept or reject, just like with W10. To me it seems like a parting shot against those of us who held out on their "free offer".
So are you using the latest beta release of 4.9?.
Also let us know if you can get the DIM to work
*Watching with interest*
Laurie
...question, as all my content are on a second library drive, will I need to back up, wipe, format, and reinstall everything on that drive again if I go with Manjaro and WIne?
Hi kyoto kid,
I am using DAZ 4.9.2.70, usually don't touch the Beta releases. All my content is on a second drive as well and it is an NTFS (windows native format) drive so I can't see a problem there, I would just unplug it untill after the Linux install. I use a 240GB SSD for my main drive so content has to be on another drive, it would take up to much room.
One tip is to unplug all your hard drives except the one you want to put Linux on. This will save you a lot of frustation in case something goes wrong. My first attempt at installing Linux didn't go to well as I thought everything looked right and ended up loosing about 300GB of data of my 2TB drive. After that I unplug all the drives except the 240 ssd which is where I want the install to happen.
One thing I have just noticed is, because daz can't connect to the sql it wont see content installed using the DAZ Connect Service, again I don't and never will use that so it isn't a problem.
I thought I had a problem this morning when I started my PC, fired up DAZ and couldn't find any content. Only the drive with the system files on it mounts at boot, all other drives have to be mounted manually, which is just a mater of clicking on them in the file manager so remember to do that before starting DAZ.
When directing DAZ to your Library it can be found using the file manager at />run>media>User>DriveName>Library. / is the Root directory.
Good luck if you try it, I have been wanting to get away from windows for a long time, 8 is hopeless and 10 is pathetic. I went back to 7 and was thinking tat MS wont suport it much longer and reading what you posted about the updates I am glad I did. The main thing stoping me was not being able to get DAZ to run on Linux in any stable way. Hopefully things have changed for the better, I have my fingers crossed.
...so do you have to mount the other drives every time the system is started up or only once at the beginning?
Don't have the DAZ 4.9.2.70 release as I heard of some issues people were having with it. I am running the Beta as I can do so concurrently without overwriting 4.8.
I have no interest in Daz Connect either as I also use Carrara, which is not compatible with Daz DRM content.
Because of Carrara and a number of other graphics programmes I use that are also Windows/Mac only, I will still need to go with the dual boot Linux/W7 option so I can use them as well.
You have to mount the drives everytime the system starts up, but as I said all you need to do to mount a drive is to click on it in the file manager.
When you get your dual boot system it might be fun to see if Carrara can run under wine.
I have Adobe Design Premium 5.5 and one day will try to get Photoshop, Illustrator and Fireworks installed.
The drives should remain mounted until you either unmount them or shut the system down at which point you'll have to remount them when you reboot
There may be a way to have them automount at boot like there are in other distros
Thanks Robert, you can automount drives on Manjaro, I found it in System Settings - Hardware - Removable Devices.
Let's not have any app wars, please. Keep the focus on how to get things working on Linux -- the reasons any particular member wants (or doesn't want) to use Linux are not the issue.
I am starting to think we should compile a Getting Daz to Work with WINE document made pulling all the info folks have made with there methods and progress.
And if someone can figure out a fool proof WINE setup, we should look at making a PlayOnLinux install script so even more new and old linux users can have a look at DAZ in an easier way.
I run CygWin for things like ssh and scp when I'm on Windows. I've even written Perl scripts in it.
My Windows 10 drive totally tanked the other day. I don't know yet if I've lost everything since the last backup as I haven't looked. I had just invested in another new HD for a Linux box so I completely took out the Windows 10 drive for now. I'll look at it later once I get things squared away in Linux.
So, I gave up trying to fix the version of Linux Mint 17 that I managed to totally trash my graphics while trying to get Tomb Raider running a few months ago. I will forever regret trying to get that game to run since I completely and royally messed up all of my graphics and, as a result, my working version of DS 4.8 64 bit in Linux. I put a fresh install of Linux Mint 18 (Sarah) on the brand new drive. I downloaded and installed Wine 1.8 and tried to install just like I did over the summer which worked with DS 4.8. Only this time I'm using DS 4.9 Public Build. It isn't working. I have DIM up and running no problems. It seems to be able to successfully load and access my account at DAZ although still no cms which is fine with me. I can handle manual downloads and installs offline.
Then, I try to install DS 4.9 and it seems to install, but when I try running it I get this error:
I click okay and it tries to run and I get the splash screen and then I get this:
The one time I was able to figure out how to see what was going on in the terminal it looks like it was hung up on kerner32.dll. Since it is supposed to be running as a 64 bit program I'm not sure it should even be looking at that, but I could be wrong. Complete greenhorn here. I was able to trash a perfectly good distro, after all, that is supposed to be safer for people like me.
Anyway, I could use some advice. Playonlinux is out because for some reason it isn't able to install anything 64 bit anymore. I'm not sure why so I'm trying to install everything with Winetricks. I'm assuming I'm missing a .dll or something that is needed, but I can't figure out what because I have the ones that worked last time: vcrun2005, vcrun2010, and corefonts, d3dx9, and of the dotnet20 and dotnet40 (one of them doesn't want to install, dotnet40 I believe on a 64 bit system) so I only installed one of them, but as I recall, I didn't need either one last summer with DS 4.8.
Any suggestions as to what I'm missing? Thanks. Oh, on a good note. Tomb Raider in Steam seems to work now in LM18! I guess they fixed the graphics problem with my card. Oh, and I was able to get DS 4.9 32 bit version working so I'm not completely without DS now, but I'd really like the 64 bit version working as I'm not all that great in 3Delight.
Each version of WINE is a bit different, can you recall which version you used when you had DAZ working?
As some older versions run some software better then newer versions.
I never had much luck with Wine 1.8.
I'm currently running on a 1.9.9 with no problems and hadn't had any on any of the 1.9 versions from 1.9.4 onward.
Having thought about it, I think what I used before was 1.9.x, not sure which one I used. I was thinking that 1.8 was the latest, but 1.9.20 is currently. So, I uninstalled wine 1.8 from my system. I installed wine 1.9.20 and redid everything with DIM and DAZ Studio 4.9.
I'm happy to say that did the trick and I'm now the proud user of DS 4.9 with Iray once again in my Linux box. I still have to work on installing content so I can set up a render, but that isn't happening tonight. I'm quitting for the night before I mess anything up.
GO TEAM GO!!!
Ive never used Linux before, I know absolutely nothing about it, but if learning Linux means that I can finally escape MS/Apple land then im all for it. Anxiously looking forward to documantation!
..Daz just needs to compile Studio, Carrara, Bryce, and Hexagon for Linux.
So... My usual question to anyone with DAZ 4.8/4.9 64bit on Linux. How are the morph/movement sliders doing? Are they still randomly releasing, even with the mouse pressed and doing random freezes (so you can't type in the value). Or is that fixed?
I might be wrong. But I do recall Hexagon working fine on a 32bit wine prefix. At least no more crashes than on Windows. And since it still hasn't gotten a 64 bit upgrade...