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Does G2F have Some Genesis in her?

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    They aren't really cameras...at least not like adding a camera is.  They do not have the same controls or properties as an actual camera.   And comparing a render between them and a real camera gets into all sorts of problems, because of the lack of (or locked) controls.  Focal length being one of the differences that can be very noticeable.   

  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664

    I'm not sure your point.

    the Front picture is what I'm using as the note of comparison. It takes out any variable caused by a camera.

    I don't know what my first friend did.  My second one followed my procedure.

    Would you mind folllowing my procedure and posting your result to compare?

     

    1) open daz

    2) load G2f

    3) set to the Front camera

    4) click G2F's head

    5) click the frame item button

    6) 3delight render (or screenshot will do)

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited September 2015

    What my point is, if he used a camera, with a different focal length...comparing it to the Front view won't give the same thing.

    Here's the G2F Front View...

    g2ffront

    After a few different runs, the 'Views' seem to be the same as the default 65mm focal length.

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited September 2015

    And here's one with an actual camera at two different focal lengths...notice how the 85mm is sort of 'higher' (head goes above, the lips are higher, etc), but that the eyes are about in the same place?

     

    g2f different focal length

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  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664
    mjc1016 said:

    What my point is, if he used a camera, with a different focal length...comparing it to the Front view won't give the same thing.

    Here's the G2F Front View...

     

    And yours donesn't match my mac, my windows,  or my second friend's...

    Yours is the purple overlaid over mine.

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  • XaatXuunXaatXuun Posts: 873
    edited September 2015

    Dunno if this hekps, but this would be how G2F head looks for me

    Rendered at 746 x 745, 3Delight

    added PNG render, first one  was JPG

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited September 2015
    Scavenger said:
    mjc1016 said:

    What my point is, if he used a camera, with a different focal length...comparing it to the Front view won't give the same thing.

    Here's the G2F Front View...

     

    And yours donesn't match my mac, my windows,  or my second friend's...

    Yours is the purple overlaid over mine.

    Render size and aspect ratio also affects things...so what size was yours at and I'll re-render.  I didn't even think about finding out what size/aspect ratio you used until you showed it not lining up.  And that's coming from the center frame function.  It centers it...mostly due to aspect ratio, but size also affects it, to some degree.

     

     

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  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664

    it's 1200x776 / a 17 x 11 ratio

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    This is just getting too weird...no matter what I do, I can't get a render that matches any of the ones in this thread, except my own.  It's as if each machine centers the frame differently.  Even with the same settings.

  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664

    Give me a camera setting and I'll match it to compare.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited September 2015

    Simple...square 1:1 640 x 640...

     

     

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  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664

    Well, other than a difference in light? Render settings? Render Engine? Mine and yours is a match...SO I guess I am finaly fixed, and either my friend used the wrong model, his is weird, or just the camera he used flattened her ears.

     

    THANKS so much for your help!

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  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,352
    edited September 2015

    Front, sides, back, top, bottom are orthographic and that is what you have in the image where you're using front view.  This image shows side by side, front view on the left, perspective on the right, of Victoria 7.

     

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  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664

    Thanks for checking Chris!

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    Light...I didn't use the camera headlight.  I had the scene set for the flag model I did last night so I just dropped her in with the same lights.

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