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I should have been more clear, sorry. No one liked how the ads were presented here but there are websites where there are a few ads and it's been done correctly. There are folks who don't mind that as long as the ads aren't interfering with using the website and are safe. I'm one of them because I can ignore the ads and still be able to use the website. That's what I meant to say.
Again, if the idea was to assess the usefulness of ads, or of other features in the past and future, how would having a set of self-appointed lab rats help? The whole point would be to understand how regular users interacted. This isn't a mad-scientist running unrelated mind-control experiments (says my programmer) but something linked diectly to the way the site works.
Thank you! That makes sense.
Thanks! Again, apologies for not being more clear.
As someone who hasn't spoken up on this topic yet it is indeed because I learned long ago that browsing the web without an ad-blocker was a pretty horrendous experience so always have one enabled.
It seems the time has passed now but incase it's still relevant I absolutely echo the above sentiment and also hope that they are gone permenantly.
Doing usability testing with specifically recruited users of a given site is literally how most UX designers work. They could have offered, say, $10 in store credits to a number of volunteers who met a given criteria, or even just asked. It would certainly have let them see the issues with specific ads before inflicting them on users and getting customer service buried in tickets about the issues.
That aside, a site using its userbase for testing without either informing them or getting their consent to be test subjects is DEEPLY problematic.
I wonder how much it actually cost them in lost sales and customers. I know i have spent very littly here recently I did make a purchase but have returned the item as I really don't like being used to test stuff so when informed that the adds were a test I returned the product for a refund - not in store credit.
Not adding my 5 cent from a customer's point of view - I'ld say everything has already been said in this thread, and mostly in a far less aggressive tone than what's going through my own mind ...
But here's one from the point of view of someone with a background in online business:
There was absolutely NO need for testing this, since thousands of companies have tested showing ads to paying customers before, and I don't know a single one that didn't backpaddle on their decision. It's an unspoken rule of internet business that ads are for freeloaders only. It's a simple business transaction - "pay" for a free service by watching adds, a fine win/win situation.
But when it comes to paying customers (and support forums for paid products mainly have paying customers as their target audience), you don't pester them with ads, unless it's internal ads for your own products.
It's not even a matter of courtesy, but it has been proven over and over and over again in the past 25 years that this loses you more money by disgruntling customers than it adds in ad revenue. And it's even worse when you don't even bother to use reputable ad source and thus introduce your formerly paying customers to scam sites, malware and other nonsense.
"Of course people don't like ads - that pretty much goes without saying" <-- And that's exactly where this idea should have stopped before it actually lost you business.
[Edit, because I'm scatter brained] The thing with unvolunatary tests like these is: once you destroyed your own reputation like this, it's hard to undo the damage. Customers who left because of this won't simply return just because you took back those changes. Even if they hear about the backpaddeling, they now know that you think it's okay to abuse them as test subjects, so why bother coming back?
well I just browsed the Unreal Marketplace 70% off sale and bought some nice grooms for my bald heads including an awesome wizard/drawf beard (nicer than anything I could style using particle hair in Blender)
and you know what
NOT AN AD IN SIGHT
just products for sale and no ads on their forums either
as one would expect from a business
As was the case here.
Well maybe no ads but I sure am getting a lot of cookie agreement popups which are rapidily getting to be almost as annoying.
As 'was' - past tense - are the ads going to return?
He wouldn't say even if he knew. The past tense was to say that, while the ads were running, they were not on sales pages.
Then the part about the forums should not have been added by doing so the sentence becomes incorrect and implies there may possibly a return of the adds.
you can see I didn't edit my post, I definitely said there are no Ads on their forums either
as far as I am concerned it's the same site as if I sign in for one I am signed in for the other as is the case here.
DAZ shop did keep putting up the cookie dialogue making shopping difficult too and unlike Unreal Marketplace there are no product reviews etc
for that you need to visit this forum albeit using DAZ-Deals extension
What we were told and what was passed on to you guys not 5 min later was already mentioned here
That's a good idea anyway. Also good to clear your caches regularly. The web is made of trackers, apparently.
I am not sure what you are trying to say, the whjole point of inserting my reply there was to be clear that it was about the store not the forums and gallery (which obviously did have ads for a while, hence this thead). I could have split the sentence a little later, in fact, as long as the reply came before the reference to forums. And yes, "was" was indicating that this was referring back to when ads were active and carried no implication about the future.
I just had to purge cookies because the "accept cookies" thing is still happening. I think it's fixed for now. Just wanted to mention this in case anybody at DAZ cares.
This problem is intermittent for me right now.
Personally, I am using AdGuard AdBlocker, this extension can be added in Google Chrome and Firefox, not sure if MS Edge may have the same extension access.
In practice it would have been very nice to have ads in an inobtrusive way, but the scenario is very bleak.
Not only spyware, trackers, and malware can infect any computer, is not like when you buy a newspaper, you can see the ads; some maybe useful for you others not.
Better be safe than sorry.