There's Always Another Sale Thread -- Discussions Only Pt 3

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  • JumbotronJumbotron Posts: 112

    daveso said:

    its pretty obvious to me that DAZ is promoting the Premier Membership over anything else. DAZ+ will at least give discounts, but Premiere is by far the way to go if you're a steady buyer. Base is overall terrible as far as pricing, and I would never buy anything at full price, as high as it is.  30% off does not cut it either. The real shocker comes when looking at DAZ+ items. Real expensive without a membership. I'm not trying to sell a membership, but if you buy a lot you need to subscribe to one of them, and the way the cookie crumbles, Premier is by far the way to go, $9 a month more or not. 

    Still, the monthly fee for Premier is a bit too high IMHO. It's not that I'm in a hurry or something (my Daz+ sub ends in one year), but at the moment I don't feel very inclined to move to Premier, and the monthly price is not the only reason. I'm not a fan of the exclusive features inside the application only for Premier subscribers either.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,039
    edited December 1

    Nerevarine said:

    Sadly Premier is a bit more than 9 a month more for me. I only buy my yearly Daz+ when it's on big sale - I think this current year I'm on was 35 bucks, but one year I got it for 17 somehow. I was sad to see there was no great bundle deal for Daz+ but after looking, I don't really mind - I'm content with my older content! :) And, on the upside, G3 is starting to pop up in huge discounts and the weekly freebies which is great for me - I'm getting more and more interested in G3 and G2 as the years go by. Zero interest in G9, but the older figures are great and so varied, especially for historical stuff.

    I've been keeping my punch card up, but I'm honestly not even sure why. Force of habit and hope that we'll get that advent calendar thing again, I guess. Crossing my fingers we get the advent calender, and that they don't lock it to premiere.

    I was just looking at current pricing when I said $9 more. I've had quite a few years of DAZ+ with substantial discounting, and I had a couple of those $17 renewals myself.  I've been grabbing the G3 stuff for free as well and will go back to that a lot more. I have a ton of characters, but unless you;re doing closeup stuff, most of them dont matter at all from a distance. In reality its a waste of money buying tons of characters. I see it more of a collection than needed. Same with a lot of the products here. Once I get over my habit of spending here, I will be much more content on using what I have.  The ultimate sale yes

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,039

    Jumbotron said:

    daveso said:

    its pretty obvious to me that DAZ is promoting the Premier Membership over anything else. DAZ+ will at least give discounts, but Premiere is by far the way to go if you're a steady buyer. Base is overall terrible as far as pricing, and I would never buy anything at full price, as high as it is.  30% off does not cut it either. The real shocker comes when looking at DAZ+ items. Real expensive without a membership. I'm not trying to sell a membership, but if you buy a lot you need to subscribe to one of them, and the way the cookie crumbles, Premier is by far the way to go, $9 a month more or not. 

    Still, the monthly fee for Premier is a bit too high IMHO. It's not that I'm in a hurry or something (my Daz+ sub ends in one year), but at the moment I don't feel very inclined to move to Premier, and the monthly price is not the only reason. I'm not a fan of the exclusive features inside the application only for Premier subscribers either.

    my subscription has expired on 22 November. I'm not renewing Premier, and see DAZ+ as overall not worth it at the price either, especially when so many of us were already complaining about the value lessening way before this huge price increase.  

  • JumbotronJumbotron Posts: 112

    daveso said:

    Jumbotron said:

    daveso said:

    its pretty obvious to me that DAZ is promoting the Premier Membership over anything else. DAZ+ will at least give discounts, but Premiere is by far the way to go if you're a steady buyer. Base is overall terrible as far as pricing, and I would never buy anything at full price, as high as it is.  30% off does not cut it either. The real shocker comes when looking at DAZ+ items. Real expensive without a membership. I'm not trying to sell a membership, but if you buy a lot you need to subscribe to one of them, and the way the cookie crumbles, Premier is by far the way to go, $9 a month more or not. 

    Still, the monthly fee for Premier is a bit too high IMHO. It's not that I'm in a hurry or something (my Daz+ sub ends in one year), but at the moment I don't feel very inclined to move to Premier, and the monthly price is not the only reason. I'm not a fan of the exclusive features inside the application only for Premier subscribers either.

    my subscription has expired on 22 November. I'm not renewing Premier, and see DAZ+ as overall not worth it at the price either, especially when so many of us were already complaining about the value lessening way before this huge price increase.  

    Oh, yeah. While I'm not sure what I'll do regarding the Premier plan once my current paid Daz+ sub ends, I'm almost certain that I won't renew Daz+ at the current state of things.

  • XiousDsXiousDs Posts: 403
    daveso said:

    Jumbotron said:

    daveso said:

    its pretty obvious to me that DAZ is promoting the Premier Membership over anything else. DAZ+ will at least give discounts, but Premiere is by far the way to go if you're a steady buyer. Base is overall terrible as far as pricing, and I would never buy anything at full price, as high as it is.  30% off does not cut it either. The real shocker comes when looking at DAZ+ items. Real expensive without a membership. I'm not trying to sell a membership, but if you buy a lot you need to subscribe to one of them, and the way the cookie crumbles, Premier is by far the way to go, $9 a month more or not. 

    Still, the monthly fee for Premier is a bit too high IMHO. It's not that I'm in a hurry or something (my Daz+ sub ends in one year), but at the moment I don't feel very inclined to move to Premier, and the monthly price is not the only reason. I'm not a fan of the exclusive features inside the application only for Premier subscribers either.

    my subscription has expired on 22 November. I'm not renewing Premier, and see DAZ+ as overall not worth it at the price either, especially when so many of us were already complaining about the value lessening way before this huge price increase.  

    Besides, if a deal pops up that is a massive huge savings for premier, you can always sub for the month to buy a bunch of stuff at high savings when you need to. This my reason why I consider Daz+ dead unless someone has already bought a bunch of months of it. You chill with what you have already as a basic member and make stuff with Daz using your already acquired content. Or... you decide you want to buy a bunch of stuff so you upgrade to premier for a month to save big during your shopping spree. After which you go back to basic and making stuff with what you now have.
  • As I mentioned elsewhere, I am passing on Bundle for a Buck. All 3 skins look really weird on the legs & buttocks. In the full promos there are large areas of reddish skin, and the tops of feet are unnaturally bright. I can't tell if it's the skins themselves or lighting. Plus I've got enough Asian female figures. The only reason I'd consider buying it is if you want to keep up punches, and I'm not playing that game.

  • gfdamron1gfdamron1 Posts: 305

    XiousDs said:

    daveso said:

    Jumbotron said:

    daveso said:

    its pretty obvious to me that DAZ is promoting the Premier Membership over anything else. DAZ+ will at least give discounts, but Premiere is by far the way to go if you're a steady buyer. Base is overall terrible as far as pricing, and I would never buy anything at full price, as high as it is.  30% off does not cut it either. The real shocker comes when looking at DAZ+ items. Real expensive without a membership. I'm not trying to sell a membership, but if you buy a lot you need to subscribe to one of them, and the way the cookie crumbles, Premier is by far the way to go, $9 a month more or not. 

    Still, the monthly fee for Premier is a bit too high IMHO. It's not that I'm in a hurry or something (my Daz+ sub ends in one year), but at the moment I don't feel very inclined to move to Premier, and the monthly price is not the only reason. I'm not a fan of the exclusive features inside the application only for Premier subscribers either.

    my subscription has expired on 22 November. I'm not renewing Premier, and see DAZ+ as overall not worth it at the price either, especially when so many of us were already complaining about the value lessening way before this huge price increase.  

    Besides, if a deal pops up that is a massive huge savings for premier, you can always sub for the month to buy a bunch of stuff at high savings when you need to. This my reason why I consider Daz+ dead unless someone has already bought a bunch of months of it. You chill with what you have already as a basic member and make stuff with Daz using your already acquired content. Or... you decide you want to buy a bunch of stuff so you upgrade to premier for a month to save big during your shopping spree. After which you go back to basic and making stuff with what you now have.

    That's how I'm looking at it. I'll keep my Premier membership during these sales, and stop it when there's a lull. I prefer this flexibilty as it allows me to put my membership to better use. I have been enjoying this sale. 

  • gfdamron1gfdamron1 Posts: 305

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    As I mentioned elsewhere, I am passing on Bundle for a Buck. All 3 skins look really weird on the legs & buttocks. In the full promos there are large areas of reddish skin, and the tops of feet are unnaturally bright. I can't tell if it's the skins themselves or lighting. Plus I've got enough Asian female figures. The only reason I'd consider buying it is if you want to keep up punches, and I'm not playing that game.

    I purchased the bundle, though I only installed the Winneq character. For the princely investment of $1.00, I have a pretty cool looking character to work with. I can't comment about the other characters in the bundle, but Winneq doesn't have reddish skin- she's on the pale end of the spectrum I would say. Even so, for a $1.00 I was willing to use any skin from my library to make it work. 

  • theflarftheflarf Posts: 153

    I've still got a handful of months left of Daz+ 

    But there is absolutely no way i'll be renewing it, with the monthly fee instead of a potential discounted yearly fee it already seeming bad.

    Then you consider that Daz+ is now largely a dead tier, all the focus and worthwhile offers are Daz P, so you may as well be Daz Nothing over Daz + quite frankly as bad as prices are then you're getting that for free

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,039

    gfdamron1 said:

    XiousDs said:

    daveso said:

    Jumbotron said:

    daveso said:

    its pretty obvious to me that DAZ is promoting the Premier Membership over anything else. DAZ+ will at least give discounts, but Premiere is by far the way to go if you're a steady buyer. Base is overall terrible as far as pricing, and I would never buy anything at full price, as high as it is.  30% off does not cut it either. The real shocker comes when looking at DAZ+ items. Real expensive without a membership. I'm not trying to sell a membership, but if you buy a lot you need to subscribe to one of them, and the way the cookie crumbles, Premier is by far the way to go, $9 a month more or not. 

    Still, the monthly fee for Premier is a bit too high IMHO. It's not that I'm in a hurry or something (my Daz+ sub ends in one year), but at the moment I don't feel very inclined to move to Premier, and the monthly price is not the only reason. I'm not a fan of the exclusive features inside the application only for Premier subscribers either.

    my subscription has expired on 22 November. I'm not renewing Premier, and see DAZ+ as overall not worth it at the price either, especially when so many of us were already complaining about the value lessening way before this huge price increase.  

    Besides, if a deal pops up that is a massive huge savings for premier, you can always sub for the month to buy a bunch of stuff at high savings when you need to. This my reason why I consider Daz+ dead unless someone has already bought a bunch of months of it. You chill with what you have already as a basic member and make stuff with Daz using your already acquired content. Or... you decide you want to buy a bunch of stuff so you upgrade to premier for a month to save big during your shopping spree. After which you go back to basic and making stuff with what you now have.

    That's how I'm looking at it. I'll keep my Premier membership during these sales, and stop it when there's a lull. I prefer this flexibilty as it allows me to put my membership to better use. I have been enjoying this sale. 

    i see no sale.  I say that becasue with Base Membership, it isn;t that much of a deal. Its near imposssible to accumulate tokens at 1 per $15, unless you spend a lot, you have no coupons in your account, and the DO and everything discounts are much less right up front. Like I've said, if you're going to buy even close to a hundred a month, its necessary to have a membership, and not its Premier that gives by far most bang for the buck.  

  • XiousDsXiousDs Posts: 403

    As I mentioned elsewhere, I am passing on Bundle for a Buck. All 3 skins look really weird on the legs & buttocks. In the full promos there are large areas of reddish skin, and the tops of feet are unnaturally bright. I can't tell if it's the skins themselves or lighting. Plus I've got enough Asian female figures. The only reason I'd consider buying it is if you want to keep up punches, and I'm not playing that game.

    On the most realistic characters she has a blatantly obvious mirroring of details on her lower legs. People don't tend to have perfect mirrors of things like large birth marks. Plus, it is $1 which is not more than a dollar, so not certain if it will trigger the punch. I plan on skipping it, and possibly grabbing the special item today for like $2.09 cause I think it is cute.
  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,616
    Does anyone know if the Daily "punch" is automatically applied or is it something I have to apply
  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,754
    edited December 2

    tsarist said:

    Does anyone know if the Daily "punch" is automatically applied or is it something I have to apply

    Once earned it is applied automatically the next day,

    Post edited by Charlie Judge on
  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,354

    I'd have skipped that bundle even for a buck. Not interested in those characters

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 892

    Torquinox said:

    I'd have skipped that bundle even for a buck. Not interested in those characters

    Would've been nice if they'd at least given D+ members a crack at it for $2 or something.

    Not that I would have gotten it, but judging by most of the content on Daz, my tastes don't align with most. I'm sure some D+ folk would've welcomed it. 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,354

    @SilverGirl I agree!

  • AsuCafeAsuCafe Posts: 90

    I already have some characters from that artist, I think the early characters have more charisma than this one dollar bundle.

    LIGHTNING DEALS are a good choice for Punch Cards.

  • FrankTheTankFrankTheTank Posts: 1,131

    Lightning Deals. I don't usually pay attention to them as 60% off is nothing special as Daz sales goes. But for the last few days I've been checking them out evey 3 hours to see if there is anything worthwhile, since the sales have been stacking for 80-86% off. And I've yet to see anything tempting my gift card balance. Nothing is related to any previous purchases, for example if there are texture packs or add-ons, they aren't for anything that I own. There is also never anything from my wishlist. There is nothing related to even my browsing history. They are literally the things I would least likely buy or want. I dont think the selections are "curated" at all, despite being promoted as that. They just seem totally random. I just got offered the "Callie 6 Starter Bundle" for example, and I already own the "Callie 6 Pro Bundle" which I bought like 8 years ago. 

  • gfdamron1gfdamron1 Posts: 305

    I'm convinced my LD are completely random and have nothing to do with my purchase history. Most of the time half the items are for software I don't use (Poser and ancient DAZ). The thing is, they do include something often enough that I can use. Right now it's offering me an FE Netto hair for G9 for $1.95- 92% discount.

  • XiousDsXiousDs Posts: 403

    Lightning Deals. I don't usually pay attention to them as 60% off is nothing special as Daz sales goes. But for the last few days I've been checking them out evey 3 hours to see if there is anything worthwhile, since the sales have been stacking for 80-86% off. And I've yet to see anything tempting my gift card balance. Nothing is related to any previous purchases, for example if there are texture packs or add-ons, they aren't for anything that I own. There is also never anything from my wishlist. There is nothing related to even my browsing history. They are literally the things I would least likely buy or want. I dont think the selections are "curated" at all, despite being promoted as that. They just seem totally random. I just got offered the "Callie 6 Starter Bundle" for example, and I already own the "Callie 6 Pro Bundle" which I bought like 8 years ago. 

    I think LD "curated" in Daz sense means these exact items or bundles you don't own, so maybe you should buy them even if you own most of the items from the bundle or it is a genre you never get?
  • AsuCafeAsuCafe Posts: 90

    LD's prices are very good during sales and as for items it's like a draw, if there's a good sale that day I'll fill up the cart and then check LD until the last update of the day.

    I often get up in the middle of the night to check, one time I even saw items in the shopping cart entering LD.

    Like I have to buy something every day recently, and I have no interest in Daily Holidaz Deal. LD is the best choice.

    Fortunately, there are several good things that are 90% off every day.

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,616

    tsarist said:

    Does anyone know if the Daily "punch" is automatically applied or is it something I have to apply

    Once earned it is applied automatically the next day,

    Thanks Charlie!
  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 892

    DO free-or-discount advent calendar is back!

    Both items today were on my wishlist, and it doesn't look like it requires a buy-in! Woot!

  • NerevarineNerevarine Posts: 172

    daveso said:

    Nerevarine said:

    Sadly Premier is a bit more than 9 a month more for me. I only buy my yearly Daz+ when it's on big sale - I think this current year I'm on was 35 bucks, but one year I got it for 17 somehow. I was sad to see there was no great bundle deal for Daz+ but after looking, I don't really mind - I'm content with my older content! :) And, on the upside, G3 is starting to pop up in huge discounts and the weekly freebies which is great for me - I'm getting more and more interested in G3 and G2 as the years go by. Zero interest in G9, but the older figures are great and so varied, especially for historical stuff.

    I've been keeping my punch card up, but I'm honestly not even sure why. Force of habit and hope that we'll get that advent calendar thing again, I guess. Crossing my fingers we get the advent calender, and that they don't lock it to premiere.

    I was just looking at current pricing when I said $9 more. I've had quite a few years of DAZ+ with substantial discounting, and I had a couple of those $17 renewals myself.  I've been grabbing the G3 stuff for free as well and will go back to that a lot more. I have a ton of characters, but unless you;re doing closeup stuff, most of them dont matter at all from a distance. In reality its a waste of money buying tons of characters. I see it more of a collection than needed. Same with a lot of the products here. Once I get over my habit of spending here, I will be much more content on using what I have.  The ultimate sale yes

     

     

    Good to see I'm not the only one still enjoying the older stuff! I'm crossing my fingers some of the G2 stuff on my wishlist pops up in my advent :) It's a shame that a lot of the items I want are so pricey, but they are gorgeous.

    I mainly renewed for a year for this sale, so I was happy to check at 7AM my time and see the advent. I guess I checked in a bit too early as originally the paid option was 7 bucks, but now it's 2.99 - same as last year I think. So that's great, and I hope I can get some good deals.

    I'm also done with buying figures unless they really add something special to the gene pool. Mainly I'm still picking up bits and bobs for genres I'm lacking in - namely contemporary scenes and hair dos.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,070
    edited December 2

    XiousDs said:

    FrankTheTank said:

    Lightning Deals. I don't usually pay attention to them as 60% off is nothing special as Daz sales goes. But for the last few days I've been checking them out evey 3 hours to see if there is anything worthwhile, since the sales have been stacking for 80-86% off. And I've yet to see anything tempting my gift card balance. Nothing is related to any previous purchases, for example if there are texture packs or add-ons, they aren't for anything that I own. There is also never anything from my wishlist. There is nothing related to even my browsing history. They are literally the things I would least likely buy or want. I dont think the selections are "curated" at all, despite being promoted as that. They just seem totally random. I just got offered the "Callie 6 Starter Bundle" for example, and I already own the "Callie 6 Pro Bundle" which I bought like 8 years ago. 

    I think LD "curated" in Daz sense means these exact items or bundles you don't own, so maybe you should buy them even if you own most of the items from the bundle or it is a genre you never get?

    ...pretty much what I usually get in LDs are old items like characters and clothing and poses for Gen4 as well as Genesis 1 or 2 along with textures for clothing content I don't own.

    As to amking the Daz+ tier more worthehile, how about at least increasing the coupon value to 8 USD? 

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  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,466
    edited December 2

    kyoto kid said:

    XiousDs said:

    FrankTheTank said:

    Lightning Deals. I don't usually pay attention to them as 60% off is nothing special as Daz sales goes. But for the last few days I've been checking them out evey 3 hours to see if there is anything worthwhile, since the sales have been stacking for 80-86% off. And I've yet to see anything tempting my gift card balance. Nothing is related to any previous purchases, for example if there are texture packs or add-ons, they aren't for anything that I own. There is also never anything from my wishlist. There is nothing related to even my browsing history. They are literally the things I would least likely buy or want. I dont think the selections are "curated" at all, despite being promoted as that. They just seem totally random. I just got offered the "Callie 6 Starter Bundle" for example, and I already own the "Callie 6 Pro Bundle" which I bought like 8 years ago. 

    I think LD "curated" in Daz sense means these exact items or bundles you don't own, so maybe you should buy them even if you own most of the items from the bundle or it is a genre you never get?

    ...pretty much what I usually get in LDs are old items like characters and clothing and poses for Gen4 as well as Genesis 1 or 2 along with textures for clothing content I don't own.

    As to amking the Daz+ tier more worthehile, how about at least increasing the coupon value to 8 USD? 

    That would certainly be a good idea so as not to annoy Daz+ members too much and drive them away. Similarly with Premier: the DO coupons for Premier customers are ok, but don't do the maths on the $10 coupon you can use on the $25 minimum purchase. You used to get a $6 discount on purchases of $18 or more, but now you have to shop for $7 more to get a coupon that's only $4 higher than the old Daz+ coupon. Well.... wink Again, Daz could be more generous and add the new items to the eligibles, for example.

    Post edited by caravelle on
  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 765

    SilverGirl said:

    DO free-or-discount advent calendar is back!

    Both items today were on my wishlist, and it doesn't look like it requires a buy-in! Woot!

    Since i was out for a while, first time for me on this promo.

    What are the two items you see? I only see one crying 

    ------------

    Today finally i see a decent discount on gift card. Not wow, but at least 20% covers the cost of the premier buy in.

    Now, in general this 'sale' feels too much like a gamble. Spendening each day to make the punch discount to see if one finally gets to use it is a risk. And i feel i will waste $ on items i don't really need just to keep it, making the potential discount less apealing. frown

     

     

  • ElorElor Posts: 1,549
    edited December 2

    caravelle said:

    You used to get a $6 discount on purchases of $18 or more, but now you have to shop for $7 more to get a coupon that's only $4 higher than the old Daz+ coupon. Well.... wink

    Maths always depend on what you're calculating.

    It's true, you have to shop for at least $7 more. But it's equally true that you have to spend at least $3 more and that $6 out of $18 is a 33% discount while $10 out of $25 is a 40% discount.

    Wolfwood said:

    What are the two items you see? I only see one 
    crying 

    Last year, each day (if you had punch in your card I think, no idea if it's the same this year), you were presented with a choice: either get the free item (and find something else to buy to keep the ball rolling) or get the paid item for $2.99, getting a punch along the way.

    The items were picked in your wishlist, among the Daz Original costing less than ~$30-35 and old enough (I don't think we were able to determine the threshold, but this year, I got a textures pack from one of the Joan 9 bundles as one of my two choices for today so at least items from the beginning of Genesis 9 are eligible) or, if you didn't have enough Daz Originals, randomely among eligible Daz Originals (the system was likely made to avoid people being able to have only two Daz Originals in their wishlist to be sure to have them chosen).

    If you're wishlist is empty, I can only suggest to place enough Daz Originals you would like to have, old enough and under $30-35 in it and each day, the script will chose two randomely deciding as randomely which would be the free one, which would be the $2.99 one. As far as I remember, once picked, an item will never be picked again.

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  • Wolfwood said:

    SilverGirl said:

    DO free-or-discount advent calendar is back!

    Both items today were on my wishlist, and it doesn't look like it requires a buy-in! Woot!

    Since i was out for a while, first time for me on this promo.

    What are the two items you see? I only see one crying 

    ------------

    Today finally i see a decent discount on gift card. Not wow, but at least 20% covers the cost of the premier buy in.

    Now, in general this 'sale' feels too much like a gamble. Spendening each day to make the punch discount to see if one finally gets to use it is a risk. And i feel i will waste $ on items i don't really need just to keep it, making the potential discount less apealing. frown

     

     

    The items vary by person &, unlike LD, *often* are on your wishlist, although not the priciest & always DOs. (Some of us, once we caught on, added to our respective WLs & have done so again this year :D ) However they may not always be from your WL. Today my freebie was a texture for a G2 outfit I don't own, & never had interest in; my $2.99 was ferns, which is on my WL. Guess which I will get?

    Do you only see 1 when you click on the package? If so, report in the Sales Reporting thread, or even consider a ticket.

  • SilverGirl said:

    DO free-or-discount advent calendar is back!

    Both items today were on my wishlist, and it doesn't look like it requires a buy-in! Woot!

    Yep, same here. Yay!

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