Wagner 9

memcneil70

Thank you both! LOL, who knew that my 8th decade would be taken up by wishing I had studied Law, regardless of folks telling me a woman couldn't do it. 

Crescent

As far as I can tell, only "BW Night Hero Spandex Suit for Genesis 9" is under the editorial license.  I hate the idea of paying for stuff I can't use but it's only one item and I love most of the bundle so I'll deal with it.  I'm annoyed that the dark elf doesn't come with the extra long eyebrows like you get in the Lianna bundle and the tail in the demon pack looks very nice but I wish it had morphs.  If anyone is into D&D or Baldur's Gate 3, the full bundle will be useful for making Tieflings.

Shadowdream

Not just uncanny. Almost precisely taken from the action figure (which is really close to all the official art).

This is honestly getting to be a bit much.

Pancake said:

Websoul said:

Drizzt Do'Urden fantasy armor.

Didnt spot that. It's uncanny too, I'm surprised it can have licenses. Im getting real uncomfortable with Daz rip offs lately... I need models for game development and do not have a full wiki in my head of existing fictional costumes!!!

benniewoodell

I still have my Daz+ coupon, been saving it for the final character bundle of the month, but not if there's an EL product in there. The character looks nice, and there's things that are great in the bundle, but I'll wait for a later sale and get things separately. 

Crescent

IMO there are several differences between the DAZ armor and the Drizzt Do'Urden fantasy armor.  The gloves are quite different, the shoulder pieces are different, the plating around the hips is different as are the boots.  The tri-ring belt is distinctive but is positioned up higher.  The tri-ring belt doesn't look like it would properly hold the weight of a sword scabbard so I'd hide it in renders anyway.  Is it "inspired by"?  Absolutely, but there are plenty of fantasy armors that look similar and in every genre there will be a lot of stuff that is close to something else if not skating near the boundary of "inspired by" and plagerized.  That said, I really don't like the Fan Art products.  IANAL but ... ick. 

Shadowdream said:

Not just uncanny. Almost precisely taken from the action figure (which is really close to all the official art).

This is honestly getting to be a bit much.

Pancake said:

Websoul said:

Drizzt Do'Urden fantasy armor.

Didnt spot that. It's uncanny too, I'm surprised it can have licenses. Im getting real uncomfortable with Daz rip offs lately... I need models for game development and do not have a full wiki in my head of existing fictional costumes!!!

Richard Haseltine

Please remember that we are not lawyers and should not be making statements as if we are.

nelsonsmith

Well, I think I've found the base model for all those fan Dr Who renders I'd always wanted to do.

AZDigitalArtist

nelsonsmith said:

Well, I think I've found the base model for all those fan Dr Who renders I'd always wanted to do.

Oh please someone do David Tennant!!!!!

Wonderland

I'm sorry, but the legs on this character and many Daz O G9 figures all look too short to me.  I have no need for anything in the bundle but he has an interesting face, but I have to make the legs longer on so many G9s. Some day, maybe I'll get it on sale but I have more than enough male characters I never use anyway lol. 

OrangeFalcon

I love the idea of this bundle but yeah those editorial licenses are not good. Do the same thing as Tabitha and make the EL outfits very inexpensive separate products. Daz should know EL licenses are a deathknell for bundles. 

SilverGirl

AZDigitalArtist said:

Oh please someone do David Tennant!!!!!

Would not complain.

Would.not.complain. 

SilverGirl

Is it just me, or does the promo pic of blue-Wagner with the white hair look a heck of a lot like Lotor from the 80's Voltron cartoon?

nonesuch00

I am glad to see the Nightcrawler add-on but does Wagner, who looks like the Kurt Wagner of the X-Men, look like a mix of Hiddleston and Gyllenhal or do they look similar to Kurt Wagner.

I wonder if Darwin helped on this character as it is similar in style.

tsroemi

sid said:

Really like this guy! He poses so well. Shorty next to Lianna tho.

Loving your renders, specially the first one, it's adorable  

sid

tsroemi said:

Loving your renders, specially the first one, it's adorable  

Thank you, tsroemi. I hope everyone can click through to the big version to see the great textures.

xyer0

sid said:

tsroemi said:

Loving your renders, specially the first one, it's adorable  

Thank you, tsroemi. I hope everyone can click through to the big version to see the great textures.

Thanks for the hint, and the great---as usual---renders! 

vwrangler

nonesuch00 said:

I am glad to see the Nightcrawler add-on but does Wagner, who looks like the Kurt Wagner of the X-Men, look like a mix of Hiddleston and Gyllenhal or do they look similar to Kurt Wagner.

For what it's worth, what I said to someone elsewhere was that he kind of looks like the improbable love child of Hiddleston and the young Brent Spiner (Data on Star Trek DS9) -- with Jake Gyllenhaal thrown into the mix from some angles. They've all got the same sort of longish, somewhat narrow face.

AgitatedRiot

It's a shame I loved the X-Men.

Ryuu@AMcCF

I figured that I should snatch this up just in case a similar incident as what happened with some Star Trek themed products recently on sale....

 

IT'S ON MY HARDDRIVE NOW, B--FEMALE DOGS--*S!! YOU CAN HAVE IT BACK AFTER YOU PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD FINGERS!!!

 

*--precensored before Richard Haseltine could

Ghosty12

Have to wonder how this is working, there is so much well known content inspired by Star Trek, Star Wars, X-Men, Thor / Avengers, Harry Potter and a couple of well known computer game IP's as well.

caravelle

Wonderland said:

I'm sorry, but the legs on this character and many Daz O G9 figures all look too short to me.  I have no need for anything in the bundle but he has an interesting face, but I have to make the legs longer on so many G9s.

Yesss!

 

 

NylonGirl

I'd like to have a Sophia Di Martino character with a face that good.

nonesuch00

vwrangler said:

nonesuch00 said:

I am glad to see the Nightcrawler add-on but does Wagner, who looks like the Kurt Wagner of the X-Men, look like a mix of Hiddleston and Gyllenhal or do they look similar to Kurt Wagner.

For what it's worth, what I said to someone elsewhere was that he kind of looks like the improbable love child of Hiddleston and the young Brent Spiner (Data on Star Trek DS9) -- with Jake Gyllenhaal thrown into the mix from some angles. They've all got the same sort of longish, somewhat narrow face.

Yeah, the X-Men drawing in the old comics when Kurt Wagner debuted long ago looks similar, albiet much spookier being drawn as a shadow like he was, to those fellows, particularly Hiddleston.

tsroemi

caravelle said:

Wonderland said:

I'm sorry, but the legs on this character and many Daz O G9 figures all look too short to me.  I have no need for anything in the bundle but he has an interesting face, but I have to make the legs longer on so many G9s.

Yesss!

 

 

With Wagner, they're really crazy short, I wonder why! Also very red, no? The face is still great. 

bigdaddydragon

What hair is being used in the Wagner 9 pictures?

Elor

It seems to be this one, included in the Pro Bundle:

https://www.daz3d.com/hs-dforce-mischief-maker-hair-for-genesis-9

Cricket

Drip said:

memcneil70 said:

Websoul said:

memcneil70 said:

Websoul said:

I am not sure if there is anything in this bundle that is not inspired by existing items or looks.
Even though they don't have Editorial License stamped on them due to some differences it just feels cheap to me.

Kurt Wagner (x-men Harlequin) shapes, outfit and skins, even the poses look straight out of the comics
Tom Hiddleston look alike (debatable but with the long hair it looks straight out of Loki for me)
Star Wars Grand Admiral Thrawn outfits, Just missing the rank insignia's and other minor details,
Drizzt Do'Urden fantasy armor.

 

You are right about the name, I grew up with the dutch comics where he was called "Harlekein" and for some reason my brain did the literal translation

I looked up the Drizzt Do'Urden as I was unfamiliar with the name. I found a rabbit hole in the Forgotten Realms Wiki and a rather fascinating character. Made me take another look at the Drow that I had otherwise ignored. But, I have a question for anyone, moderator or not. Can a named character in Dungeons and Dragons have issue with Editorial Licenses, to include their clothing and swords? I did like these items before I had read about them and would like to know for sure.

Let's just say that about everything legal involving D&D campaigns, settings and art is a huge blank at the moment.
D&D was originally owned by TSR. Wizards of the Coast bought TSR about 20 years ago (and then had the specific TSR brand name expire 3 years ago).
TSR and later Wizards of the Coast had a certain blank license for creators to make D&D stuff, including campaigns or settings, figurines, fan fiction, etcetera, since freely allowing all those things added to the popularity of the D&D game.
Wizards of the Coast then tried to one-sided alter the license agreement, demanding very steep fees. Which resulted in massive player backlash, so they withdrew that (for now).
Wizards of the Coast also managed to majorly peeve off the original creators of several official campaigns and official D&D art works, and are now in a couple of legal battles surrounding those, including the original Greyhawk campaign, but also the more well known Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms campaign settings. So, who owns the rights to Drizzt Do'Urden and his signature dual scimitars is kinda up in the air. Even the latest adaptations of this figure are clearly based upon the first descriptions and the first artworks for this character, and it seems the case is going pretty strongly in the direction that WotC doesn't have the full rights in the first place, and basically signed away any rights they might've had with the open licenses in the second place. It's actually fairly probable that they will abandon these old campaign settings in the future entirely, to replace them with new campaign settings, art and characters that are tighter under their own control. Just wait for the threethousandumptieth edition to be released in a couple of years for this to happen.

Actually, Hasbro brought Wizards of the Coast in 1999.