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  • animsakari_38ac6442c6animsakari_38ac6442c6 Posts: 15
    Leana said:

    Leana said:

    animsakari_38ac6442c6 said:

    Does Daz have plans to make any Premier plugins available as standalone one-time purchase products? Several products I had marked for future purchases disappeared from the Daz store. These items such as Render Queue were things I saw as extremely helpful for my next more advanced uses of Daz such as queuing renders for many related images for a comic. I think I am convinced that Daz's plan is not to make Daz a subscription software product, but if key advanced features will only be available via subscription, this is still enough to make me pause & evaluate other platforms that might provide these features or just a better overall featureset without a subscription.

    I don't think anything has been officially announced about that so far. I hope they will make them available.

    Well that was answered in the FAQ: they're meant to be Premier exclusives sad

    Thank you. I'll find the FAQ. That was not clear in the initial feature announcements I saw.
  • ElorElor Posts: 1,683

    A bit of tangential question: when Daz is saying "Membership end on [date]", does it means I'll still be a member on the date it's said to end ? The FAQ also state "until your expiration date." but I spend a couple of minutes trying to search about the meaning of until and it's even more complicated in my mind now that I did…

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,219

    Shadowdream said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    now if they added HDmorph creation and Dforce Strandbased hair to the benefits of Premier ... devil

    maybe some will bite

    as is, a Kitbash3D Cargo subscription is more tempting to me, sadly I have now missed the sale

    This. That's what I was wondering if we could do with the sculpting tools. If we can create HD morphs, I'm very interested. If not, meh. I'll just continue my workflow as is. 

    SAME.  For that heftly monthly fee I would bite but with just the enhance Mesh Grabber, which is the ONLY thing that SLIGHTLY temps me I'll stay at my current teir of the 10 bucks a month and not even sure if I NEED that to be honest.  

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,219

    Nath said:

    From the Premier page: Exclusive content, that "is active as long as Subscription is active". Great, rented content, just what I never wanted. Even assuming that it's content I'm interested in to begin with.

    The same goes for the tools. Thanks for the offer, and I'm sure others will be interested.

     

    Exactly.  pay up or you can't use your content or tools.  Seems like a rip off to me.  I guess they are treating this like having insurance.  You don't have your car insured you can't drive it legally.  This is DIGITAL content DAZ, not a physical item so this just seems really sketchy to me.  

  • TomhipTomhip Posts: 393

    Been sitting on a ticket for two days now... I guess Ill stay on Plus for now.

  • VenomisbeautyVenomisbeauty Posts: 110

    I have my Daz + subscription ending on April 2025 and Daz is offering me to switch to Premier for just 1paid month??? It's $60 of value of my existing DAZ+ subscription vs $19 of one month Premier subscription......No, thanks!

  • Alias52Alias52 Posts: 298

    I love a deal and I love buying content. But I do not love having 11 months of Daz + left giving me an offer of 1 month of Premier. I buy more than I render (hopefully, only currently) and I can see why I might want to be a Premier member. I actually really like the idea! But I don't want to give up my months left for feck all. I get that I might not get as many months as I have left. Costings etc but this is insulting. Can I just check? Will my membership run out at end of time or am I stuck in an endless groundhog day of Daz+?

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,084

    So I assume the current bundles for premier will be those until November?  I don;t need any of them, a couple I have most of the products already. I thought this month would be the test, but my premier sub goes to mid Novemeber, so it looks like Novemeber to be the true test if its worth it or not. I alrasdy am not going to use the rental add on products as I dont want to find out I like them and then have to resub frown

  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,410

    daveso said:

    So I assume the current bundles for premier will be those until November?  I don;t need any of them, a couple I have most of the products already. I thought this month would be the test, but my premier sub goes to mid Novemeber, so it looks like Novemeber to be the true test if its worth it or not. I alrasdy am not going to use the rental add on products as I dont want to find out I like them and then have to resub frown

    Daz_Steve seemed to be saying there'd be an all new bundle to use the coupon on in the near future, one would hope he meant before November. Seems a bit pointless to launch Premier, have a Premier based sales event, and then not release one of the defining benefits within that sales event. But DAZ has done inexplicable and counter-intuitive things before.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,784

    daveso said:

    So I assume the current bundles for premier will be those until November?  I don;t need any of them, a couple I have most of the products already. I thought this month would be the test, but my premier sub goes to mid Novemeber, so it looks like Novemeber to be the true test if its worth it or not. I alrasdy am not going to use the rental add on products as I dont want to find out I like them and then have to resub frown

    If you mean the bundles you can get for free, Steve said earlier that more would be added during the month.

  • DareshiranuDareshiranu Posts: 201

    nabob21 said:

    This may have already been asked but in my 'personal' offer it says the I can get 15 months of Premier or I can subscribe when my current Daz+ is renewed at the end of the month for the 'current monthly rate of $18.98'. So that implies to me that the rates may go up in the next 15 months. Does anyone else read it this way?

    An impressive offer. I wasn't even given a "personal offer" and my Daz Plus doesn't expire until 06-19-2030. I feel... overlooked? Underappreciated? Also ran? Dog meat? Perhaps some other self-depricating pejorative?

  • bishboschbishbosch Posts: 48
    Kev914 said:

    If you have the Personalized offer orange banner, you can clink it to learn more about Premier. When you click on it, you get two buttons: one to upgrade to Premier and one to remain Daz +

    After a couple of clicks, you get a confirm button and if you click on it, you'll be a Premier member.

    If you don't see the orange banner for this, you might find it in your messages.

    I didn't see this orange banner (maybe it was obscured by the other messages) and so I've been waiting on a customer support response for days when it wasn't necessary. And this also caused me to miss the 30% off gift card sale. Damn
  • LindseyLindsey Posts: 1,999

    re: Update to Genesis 8 Starter Essentials (sku 42071) with G9 autofit clones.

    Will there be an update pushed out for DAZ Connect update for Genesis 8 Starter Essentials (sku 42071)?
    Genesis 8 Starter Essentials was installed as a single product within DAZ Connect as opposed to separate Genesis 8 Male/Female installers in DIM.

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 7,325
    Lindsey said:

    re: Update to Genesis 8 Starter Essentials (sku 42071) with G9 autofit clones.

    Will there be an update pushed out for DAZ Connect update for Genesis 8 Starter Essentials (sku 42071)?
    Genesis 8 Starter Essentials was installed as a single product within DAZ Connect as opposed to separate Genesis 8 Male/Female installers in DIM.

    You log in and check in Smart Content > Updates tab, any update pushed in there?
  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,830
    edited October 10

    “Exactly.  pay up or you can't use your content or tools.  Seems like a rip off to me.  I guess they are treating this like having insurance.  You don't have your car insured you can't drive it legally.  This is DIGITAL content DAZ, not a physical item so this just seems really sketchy to me.”  

     


    Photopshop or even Autodesk Maya are “Digital products"
    My old photoshop CS6 is perpetualdevil
    but if I don’t  renew my $300 per year Maya indie license in late December ,I will lose access to All of the prefab character rigs Bifrost,Ncloth presets etc etc and  the program tools of the software.
     


    Autodesk ,like Daz, has informed me of this upfront Before I purchased this so I don’t see how this is “sketchy” 

     

     

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  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 742

    Dareshiranu said:

    nabob21 said:

    This may have already been asked but in my 'personal' offer it says the I can get 15 months of Premier or I can subscribe when my current Daz+ is renewed at the end of the month for the 'current monthly rate of $18.98'. So that implies to me that the rates may go up in the next 15 months. Does anyone else read it this way?

    An impressive offer. I wasn't even given a "personal offer" and my Daz Plus doesn't expire until 06-19-2030. I feel... overlooked? Underappreciated? Also ran? Dog meat? Perhaps some other self-depricating pejorative?

    Use daz instal manager. You will see on top a yellow banner for the personal tier offer. Follow that link if you want to get your offer, (but the rates are bad. )

    ps: Moderators should check the link if it's personalized for everyone and post the URL ( https://www.daz3d.com/subscription/membership/offer ).  This is at least the 2nd or 3rd time this question pops up. 

  • LindseyLindsey Posts: 1,999

    crosswind said:

    Lindsey said:

    re: Update to Genesis 8 Starter Essentials (sku 42071) with G9 autofit clones.

    Will there be an update pushed out for DAZ Connect update for Genesis 8 Starter Essentials (sku 42071)?
    Genesis 8 Starter Essentials was installed as a single product within DAZ Connect as opposed to separate Genesis 8 Male/Female installers in DIM.

    You log in and check in Smart Content > Updates tab, any update pushed in there?

    Nada... no updates, though three Turbo Loader product updates just appeared.  Probably coming soon..

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,551

    Lindsey said:

    crosswind said:

    Lindsey said:

    re: Update to Genesis 8 Starter Essentials (sku 42071) with G9 autofit clones.

    Will there be an update pushed out for DAZ Connect update for Genesis 8 Starter Essentials (sku 42071)?
    Genesis 8 Starter Essentials was installed as a single product within DAZ Connect as opposed to separate Genesis 8 Male/Female installers in DIM.

    You log in and check in Smart Content > Updates tab, any update pushed in there?

    Nada... no updates, though three Turbo Loader product updates just appeared.  Probably coming soon..

    Regardless of delivery method you should see updates in the method you used to download/install.

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,139

    Xellosz said:

    Dareshiranu said:

    nabob21 said:

    This may have already been asked but in my 'personal' offer it says the I can get 15 months of Premier or I can subscribe when my current Daz+ is renewed at the end of the month for the 'current monthly rate of $18.98'. So that implies to me that the rates may go up in the next 15 months. Does anyone else read it this way?

    An impressive offer. I wasn't even given a "personal offer" and my Daz Plus doesn't expire until 06-19-2030. I feel... overlooked? Underappreciated? Also ran? Dog meat? Perhaps some other self-depricating pejorative?

    Use daz instal manager. You will see on top a yellow banner for the personal tier offer. Follow that link if you want to get your offer, (but the rates are bad. )

    ps: Moderators should check the link if it's personalized for everyone and post the URL ( https://www.daz3d.com/subscription/membership/offer ).  This is at least the 2nd or 3rd time this question pops up. 

    That link is just for everybody's subscription page to see what status member you are and your upgrade options.

  • SnowSultanSnowSultan Posts: 3,600
    edited October 10

    Thank you Crosswind, that last Blender tip works just fine. Part of what's tricky about Blender is just learning *where* all of the available options are.    :)

    Post edited by SnowSultan on
  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 742

    frank0314 said:

    Xellosz said:

    Dareshiranu said:

    nabob21 said:

    This may have already been asked but in my 'personal' offer it says the I can get 15 months of Premier or I can subscribe when my current Daz+ is renewed at the end of the month for the 'current monthly rate of $18.98'. So that implies to me that the rates may go up in the next 15 months. Does anyone else read it this way?

    An impressive offer. I wasn't even given a "personal offer" and my Daz Plus doesn't expire until 06-19-2030. I feel... overlooked? Underappreciated? Also ran? Dog meat? Perhaps some other self-depricating pejorative?

    Use daz instal manager. You will see on top a yellow banner for the personal tier offer. Follow that link if you want to get your offer, (but the rates are bad. )

    ps: Moderators should check the link if it's personalized for everyone and post the URL ( https://www.daz3d.com/subscription/membership/offer ).  This is at least the 2nd or 3rd time this question pops up. 

    That link is just for everybody's subscription page to see what status member you are and your upgrade options.

    I'd suggest popping the link over to the premier questions and answers topic too...yes

  • iceltyllc@gmail.com[email protected] Posts: 24
    edited October 10

    I was going to give it a shot for a month, but since I used to be a Daz+ member, the subscription button doesn't even show up for me. What a mess! I can only auto-renew the expired membership.

     

    I guess my impulse buy was saved.

    Post edited by [email protected] on
  • DarkElfDarkElf Posts: 486

    Okay. So to boil this whole thing down ... My DAZ+ expires in March. So, if I don't want this new subscription deal, I can cancel NOW and my membership will not be renewed after it expires in March but I will still keep my DAZ+ until then?

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,784

    DarkElf said:

    Okay. So to boil this whole thing down ... My DAZ+ expires in March. So, if I don't want this new subscription deal, I can cancel NOW and my membership will not be renewed after it expires in March but I will still keep my DAZ+ until then?

    Correct

  • Animated_CitizenAnimated_Citizen Posts: 13

    Current Daz+ member here. Would be great if I could purchase the new Premier features seperately rather than having them bundled into a new subscription. I'm not sure I can justify spending the money that is being asked for Premier each month. I much to prefer to purchase the addons once and own them for life rather than have to rent them instead.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,759
    edited October 11

    Here's a bit of transparency for you. If any of you guys own ManFriday tools you already have the tools at your disposal for free. She seems to be the only one so far who has opted to transfer the plug-ins we bought to be part of Premier. Will edit this in a jiffy. Gotta go do a roundup (on my offline pc) . Luckily I own them all. So let me show you how to find them ... talk about trust . . . these things do not happen overnight.

    the dforce manager seems to be MF dForce Companion2 if you have it

    The sculptor seems to be MF Mesh Grabber which gives you more power if you bouthr the rotations and editor morph (was a bundle) if you have it

    Pose Converter try MF Figure Converter for G9 if you have it

    Render Queue just use MF RQ3.0 because after waiting forever, biting on the carrot, it got sold for use in Premier.

    These plug-ins and some others, are not available in the store anymore since last week.

    Shape transfer, not sure what's in Premier, but I just made a G9 from G8 wearing G3 Clothes and Kids4 hair and takes most poses, from available products, but will not post process here because if I do the products I used may vanish. Kind of like posting stacking deals and they suddenly stop . . . 

    We all buy content and forget we own it or cannot find it. Initially, as a newbie, I found some MF installs difficult to locate. But finding and fixing is actually very easy via DIM or manually. Forgive my 'mouse' handwriting. Assuming you have these assets here is where you can find them.

    via DIM.

    DIM1. Search by alpha . . . or type name in search bar of DIM.

    DIM2 Install if not installed. Right click on the arrow to the right of the uninstall column.

    DIM3. Click the links in popup screen to find maual guides and plugin file locations. Repeat for each plug-in.

    Manual

    M1. Right click the DS Icon to locate DAZ Studio filesfolder. (most people may find them in c:/Program Files/DAZ3D/DAZStudio4)

    M2. Locate 2 folders, plug-ins and docs/plug-ins.

    M3. Plugins houses the dll file

    M4. docs/Plugins houses guide manuals etc.

    Under windows open Tool Settings Pane click next to active tool and you will see a drop down of all plugins. If not displaying there go to Help> about plugins> and enter your serial# for the plug-in. Anyway these are the special tools you may already own.

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  • iceltyllc@gmail.com[email protected] Posts: 24

    Alright, I even tried renewing my expired Daz+, and that doesn't work... I guess I'll come back in December or something, see how things have gone.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,817

    ArtAngel said:

    Here's a bit of transparency for you. If any of you guys own ManFriday tools you already have the tools at your disposal for free. She seems to be the only one so far who has opted to transfer the plug-ins we bought to be part of Premier. Will edit this in a jiffy. Gotta go do a roundup (on my offline pc) . Luckily I own them all. So let me show you how to find them ...

    Except for the improved Mesh Grabber 4. 

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,759

    Charlie Judge said:

    ArtAngel said:

    Here's a bit of transparency for you. If any of you guys own ManFriday tools you already have the tools at your disposal for free. She seems to be the only one so far who has opted to transfer the plug-ins we bought to be part of Premier. Will edit this in a jiffy. Gotta go do a roundup (on my offline pc) . Luckily I own them all. So let me show you how to find them ...

    Except for the improved Mesh Grabber 4. 

    Oh that one? The one we got strung along waiting for? Right. MF is a great coder, and that might be well worth renting for some. . . but not for me. I'm happy with what I have and own.

  • 3ddisco3ddisco Posts: 0

    Like others, I have a plus membership and there appears to be no way to change it to premier. I just get sent in a circle. Anyone have a solution for this?

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