AQ Barbarian for Genesis 3 Male(s) - ears on hood

Male-M3dia

SnowSultan said:

however when threads take the lecture not an asking tone

There's no lecturing going on. I can only speak for myself, but what I am asking is for PAs to just think about how their product might be used by customers and consider additional options that might make their product more useful to a wider audience.

This wasn't meant to be an attack on the Barbarian outfit's creator either. The original poster just said that if it didn't have the ears, he would have bought it. That's what PAs should know; that even tiny things can make or break a potential purchase and that those options I ask you to consider may be more important than you think.

I think they did think it though, and that's where the subjectiveness comes in. it was meant to be an animal hood; removing the ears would make it an executioner's hood and that's not what this outfit is, much less finding a place to put all those displaced polys and still pass testing. So it comes down to someone without experience in modelling telling a modeller how to model. So I'm sure the PA put thought in how the outfit would look.

TesseractSpace

SnowSultan said:

however when threads take the lecture not an asking tone

There's no lecturing going on. I can only speak for myself, but what I am asking is for PAs to just think about how their product might be used by customers and consider additional options that might make their product more useful to a wider audience.

This wasn't meant to be an attack on the Barbarian outfit's creator either. The original poster just said that if it didn't have the ears, he would have bought it. That's what PAs should know; that even tiny things can make or break a potential purchase and that those options I ask you to consider may be more important than you think.

So far the lecturing I keep seeing is of the 'if you don't model you have no right to judge, make suggestions about, or have any issue with how something is modeled' variety. And maybe that's how some PAs feel.  Others seem to be fine with suggestions and requests even after a product has been packaged and released.

And as far as accepting how the PA 'envisioned' their item? Nope. If it doesn't meet my needs either due to style or lack of versatility, I see no need to buy it. If it's a small thing, I might ask if the artist would include it, and buy then or if it's something I can fix, I might do that, but the more an item is useful out of the box, the more likely I am to purchase it. But I have no need for the PA's 'vision' of the item. When it comes to purchasing for my art, my vision is the one that determines whether or not to purchase something. I may have uses in mind the maker never thought of. 

 

Fragg1960

Male-M3dia said:

 

... however when threads take the lecture not an asking tone, I won't bother seeing if I can make this morph while I'm at it.

You act like you're insulted that someone who is not a vendor dares to make a simple suggestion that may make an item more desirable.  As a vendor, how about you drop the attitude and be more civil.  Artistic vison means jack-s**t if the item does not appeal to as wide an audience as possible in order to maximize sales. 

SnowSultan

 it was meant to be an animal hood; removing the ears would make it an executioner's hood and that's not what this outfit is, much less finding a place to put all those displaced polys and still pass testing. 

True, and I'm not saying this merchant absolutely should have included a no ears morph. I have more of a problem - and this is coming from someone who has always supported skimpwear - with outfits that are rendered useless to many people because of "sexy" elements that cannot be worked around (high heels on a fantasy outfit, cutouts on dresses, etc).  Those are the products that I think are definitely affected by a merchant's choice to stay "true to their vision".

 

 

Serene Night

I will self moderate this post and simply remove my post.  (Sadly no delete option)  I apologize for derailing the thread with discussion of tone, or if I offended anyone.

fixmypcmike

Let's remember to address the topic and not the other posters, please.  It's perfectly reasonable to talk about what would make the outfit more appealing, and it's also perfectly reasonable to talk about why the PA might have considered and rejected such changes, without bringing up the tone of another member's post.  If you have a problem with someone else's post, report it and the forum team will look into it; do not post about it.