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Holy crap!!! An additional $7.35 discount on the Freak 5 Pro bundle. Thanks Daz, and all the content producers. my budget, however, is in a state of shock ;-). Good thing payday is in a couple of days, and the tax refund will be along soon.
I think the realization has come that, ultimately, all of the Gen 5 figures are simply highly customized morphs of the main Genesis figure, and that the real value of the new shapes is the extras that come with them. After all, I already have the Freak 3 and 4 shapes for Genesis, so dialing in an approximation of Freak 5 isn't that hard. It's just all the nifty new costumes and textures that really make the character attractive.
Actually it's a bit more than that, which a lot of people don't realize. There's a bit more going on under the hood than simply a shape. Rigging adjustments, JCMs, and morphs and emotions dials that are triggered when you move the dial, so that a fat morph for V5 isn't the same as the one for F5. You won't have that with the gen3 or 4 items as they are just simply shapes.
Hmmm.. The Pure Hair Fantasy in the Pro bundle appears to lack to Poser Companion PC files. No doubt that will be rectified. A very good deal indeed. Poser Companion files showed up on the next page of downloads.
I was thinking "Duke Nukem!" as soon as I saw those two ^_^"
For me it was Flattop and Brutes Bruisers Thugs and Tough Guys which with Freak 5 alone justified a Pro Bundle
Hah, here they give you a whole ox and all you worry about is toast. Talk about a drowning man dying of thirst! :lol:
I was trying to tell if they incorporated some of Mr. Hyde into any of the F5?? Which I wouldn't mind, I have Mr. Hyde and enjoy the work that went into him....
Since I've been working with both topologies very closely for my upcoming Rigging System product, I'm going to firmly say not at all.
I too like Hyde, but his proportions are veeeery different from F5's, and he is in some ways actually less cut - F5 looks like an exaggerated bodybuilder, whereas Hyde is meant to be a monster. When you load two Genesis and put Hyde on one and Freak 5 on the other, you can see the difference.
I would think we can have some fun mixing the two though. ;)
How long is the initial sale, with extra discount? I do miss that info being right on the product page, like it use to be....
Thank you for the fast responce! Sometimes it doesn't even require both side by side....but getting to spend time with them, I'm sure makes it easier to spot! By the way I love your stuff....I don't get to buy as much as i would like.......Father of 6, working for a Boys and Girls club (non-profit).....but constantly trying to add something in here and there!
would like to know too... do i buy now or can i wait until Friday? :D
would like to know too... do i buy now or can i wait until Friday? :D
I have to wait until Friday, so I really hope the sales continue through the weekend.
I had not really been planning on getting F5 right away, and then probably only the base figure. Then I saw the figure and all the nice stuff in the bundles and decided the Pro bundle is what I need.
So Freak “5” is indeed Freak 4 with minor makeup. But even more disappointing than I was expecting.
If you load both characters at the same time you’ll see how they overlap each other almost like a bodysuit.
It’s just the same old F4 with unnaturally ripped muscles. So much, the mesh looks in pain.
I’ve been trying to mix and try this in different ways since the morning and so far I can’t find any acceptable use for this.
F4 Base is better shaped and with the M4 Displacement maps you get better and more natural detail than this and in controlled amounts.
I remember the HUGE improvements and innovation F4 had over F3. But this Freak 4.2 is just a weird tweak over the old F4 shape. It’s not “detailed”, its just a mass of bulges crumpled all over poor F4.
Except for the poke through in most of the body of your image and the jagged detail when you go to 0 subdivision which you don't see at all on F4.
Are you serious?
I spent an hour trying to smooth out that detail in zbrush so I could make a body morph on F5... something I didn't have to do on F4. Please, try your excuses on someone that Haven't touched F5. I wouldn't buy this if it was emerald encrusted.
I’ve been trying to mix and try this in different ways since the morning and so far I can’t find any acceptable use for this.
F4 Base is better shaped and with the M4 Displacement maps you get better and more natural detail than this and in controlled amounts.
I remember the HUGE improvements and innovation F4 had over F3. But this Freak 4.2 is just a weird tweak over the old F4 shape. It’s not “detailed”, its just a mass of bulges crumpled all over poor F4.
Like I said, just get your money back. Just let's not spend your time party pooping everyone else's excitement. Feel free to sulk elsewhere.
This a HUGE improvement over F4, which was basically a puffy, large M4. And it's done without displacement maps, which is pretty impressive considering it has way less polys than Gen4. And it fit in pretty well with the rest of Gen5.
Well yeah, Millennium Man 4 in general was just a humanoid puffball. :P
No, I can’t return this because I got the Pro Bundle and It has stuff I liked for $35. I’m glad you liked F4.2 and found this way of creating characters acceptable, but not only people thinking like you has the right to share their opinions, so deal with it already.
Anyway, trying more stuff, the only way I found this usable is applying the smoothing modifier to bring down the horribly ripped muscles, but then you get an even more exact clone of Freak 4 and I don’t know why the bulges are still visible on the render anyway, might try fixing that and see how it goes with the normal and displacement included, but so far this is proving very unuseful.
Well at this point, I think you're the only one moaning... that pretty much speak to itself... so I think you can go ahead and call it "Freak 5"
To be honest I agree with Hellboy, I'm rather disapointed, I really like the new faces but the body is pretty much what we already have and so far I've found little to get excited about.
Well that's the thing, you both are acting like you have no imagination to work with a base. How is this different than V5 or M5? You don't like it, then you can change it... This isn't Gen4 where you're stuck and you have to moan about it. And I'm sure there's other products that will come out to expand on the options.
I'm sorry you find it necassary to take my opinion so personally, I won't get into an argument about who does and who doesn't have imagination, I'm not impressed its as simple as that and it doesn't matter how much you nag and berate people they are intitled to their opinions.
Yeah, I was actually surprised myself at how similar the body looked, myself. But I can still see where they differ. I like how the hip is more curved out, the chest and lats are broader, the bump map is VERY detailed, and the face is more rugged than ever, not to mention the many head morphs! And the Superfreak morph really does add some extra oomph to his signature monstrous concept! :)
When I get to it, I'll show you some beastly play-arounds later. Like I promised earlier, I'll show you just how much of a FREAK I can REALLY make this guy! ;)
Mixing characters is one of the things I like the most about Genesis. But that’s the main problem, this looks way too much like Freak 4 to add any real value.
Its funny you mention “imagination” because the lack of it is what bothers me about this character.
Freak is a character with LOTS of potential. They did something completely new for more limited characters like M5 and V5 and they could have done something new for him easier. But they just took the easy road. Sorry, but I prefer to pay for something new and different than pay for something tweaked and old looking.
And I agree with scorpio64dragon, I’m glad you liked it so much, good for you. But calm down and stop being rude with the people who doesn’t think like you because no one is attacking you in the least.
No, but you did insult me a few days ago, so I really think the calm down is really in order for you. Like I said, no need to party poop other's excitement.
Might someone who has him be willing to show how the new Freak 5 faces (the ones that come with Freak 5, not the extra ones by Joequick) work with the Michael 5 body, or even just on the Genesis Basic Male? Clay renders, preferably.
I like the look of the new heads, but I don't do big muscle bound guys often, and there isn't enough in either bundle I need now to make me splurge when I'm trying to save up for March madness, but if the heads work well, I might indulge in the Starter bundle, since PC price is only $5 more than PC price for F5 himself.
(and odds are 15 new characters that are exactly what I need will come out using the Freak 5 UV's in the period between when the bundles go off sale and when they're 60 days old if I don't get him. :p )
I already told you no one was trying to insult you.
I also told you people have different opinions.
Get over both things already.
Sure, I can try that. I think I still have to download those, but I'll go for it after I eat something if no one does it first. I'm curious too. ;-)
Sure, I can try that. I think I still have to download those, but I'll go for it after I eat something if no one does it first. I'm curious too. ;-)
Cool, thanks. Your response did remind me to clarify I meant the ones that came with Freak 5 himself, not the JoeQuick ones in the Pro Bundle (though I'm curious about those too.) the Freak 5 info says there are 6 alternate head shapes included.
As I don't have Freak 4 this one is completely new for me and I like it - will be great to do some Hero/Fantasy Scenes.
;) Now I am just missing something to turn him into a Hulk (yes, I have Mr. Hyde, but...)
This is just a first render using items out of the Bundle: char, skin, outfit, pose... - want to see him before I go now to bed :D
It seems to be time for a reminder to keep the discussion civil, and that figure wars are no more welcome than app wars.
Great render, Sedor!
Personally I think that calm, side-by-side comparison of shapes is helping other people who are only thinking of buying F5 and not bundles, to make a better informed choice.
They still might go for new heads or bundles, or they might not have legacy F4 shapes for Genesis but I think it is much worse to be hyped and then inevitably very disappointed with F5 shapes due to lack of information how similar they are to F4 than to be provided some not-so-hyped information about F5 on the day of release.
Yes they are. I hope this is more or less what you needed. I used M5's base body. They are huge, but probably you can scale them or using a smaller amount or something. They are additive, so you have to use the default head too or they look like something from Sesame Street.
Let me know if you need something else.