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  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    edited December 1969

    I don't like to drive.
    I like to be in other places, so I drive, but I don't enjoy anything about driving or riding.
    In fact I don't like to travel at all. Everywhere I've been in the last 30 odd years has been within a 100 mile radius of home.
    I'm not a hermit by any means, but I do enjoy being at home.
    I've been down to the tip of Florida, and as far north as Detroit in my lifetime, and my memory of them is very clear.
    Ps!borg is right, there's no place like home.
    Except home. :)

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    edited December 1969

    Heh, the cab ride is only because of the broken foot. Even if I could spend the $1000 to get a special exemption for the eye test (that's the cost of an optometrist to check me and test me and produce the paperwork), due to the Frankenstein medical boot I'm wearing.. I couldn't drive anyway!

    When I'm not in an medical boot, I take the bus (the stop is 2-1/2 blocks away), and my transport expenses are... $30/month. %-P :P

    Note that this doesn't factor in taking a cab home from the strip club, which can run up to $25, but typically is $zero as he limo driver knows me and he'll take me home for free! :coolsmile:

    Oh yeah, the Yellow Rose has their own private limo and if you get blasted, you get a cheap ride home. Supercool! :coolsmile:


    The way your foot glows in the dark now would be very distracting for the strippers. :)
  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Frank0314 said:
    I don't drink outside the house. Less expensive and safer and I've never been to a strip club

    It's not a place to go if:

    - You have moral issues with mostly naked women lap dancing
    - You have a wife
    - You have, or want, a girlfriend and/or a steady relationship
    - You want to save money for retirement
    - You don't like real loud music
    - You have issues with mirror balls, disco lights, and/or fog machines
    - You don't like watching someone that went past a dancers limits being picked up and literally thrown out the door

    For some places, add to that:

    - You feel uncomfortable being propositioned by a mostly naked woman
    - You feel uncomfortable around biker/gangster types
    - You feel uncomfortable in potentially run-down/dangerous sections of town
    - You feel uncomfortable when two or more people start a brawl over a dancer
    - You feel uncomfortable being at the scene of a stabbing or shooting

    I think that sums it up, really. :blank: :blank:

    When you put it that way, it's hard to imagine anyone would want to go there. :grrr:

    Dana

  • ledheadledhead Posts: 1,586
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    Ledhead said:
    I don't see how anyone can go without a car. That would take away one of my more favorite things to do which is to go for a drive in the country out of the blue.

    The wife and I both love to wake up one weekend and say, "Hey, lets go for a drive somewhere", and we end up making a day of it driving a couple of hundred miles or more. We live in the Kansas City area and there have been many three day weekends where we wake up and decide to drive to, say, Estes Park in Colorado or Santa Fe, New Mexico or down to Arkansas to see the green mountains. Yep, I could not picture myself without a car.

    I think you guys are missing out on one of the most enjoyable experiences in life. Of course I know there are some who absolutely hate driving, so maybe that is where you guys fall, but you sure are missing something that I couldn't do without, the ability to just go somewhere without being dependent upon others.

    I guess you could always rent a car, but then you have to get a cab or ride a bus to get to a rental company, go through the rental process, then drive home to pick up whatever items you may need and off you go. By the time all of that is said and done I could be a couple of hundred miles away.

    But don't listen to me, I'm just a hick from Belton, MO who loves trucks, guns and my freedom.


    ...First, if I started driving, I would be stuck a teenagers insurance rate for at least the fist six months which would have to be paid up front. Don't have that kind of income, especially now.

    Second I'd want a car I can work on when basic things go wrong or need attention instead of having to pay 100s if not 1,000s for the dealership to do it (meaning a car without any computerised controls). Of course this means it would be one which gets poor to mediocre economy and at about 3.80/gallon where I live, that would be a serious drain on the wallet. To show how ridiculous this has become these days, one friend told be because of the warranty conditions, even to change the oil, he has to take into in to the dealer (of course at an inflated cost and taking much longer as he needs to set up an "appointment") instead of doing it on his own oil or going to one of those corner oil change shops as that would void the warranty.

    They may as well bolt town the bonnet on new cars these days and put a label on it that reads "No User Serviceable Parts Inside".

    Third parking in my area of town is a total pain. One time I was riding with a friend and we made a stop at the local market I usually go to. It took us longer to find a parking spot (and we eventually ended up having to park several blocks away) than it would take me to ride my bike there.

    Fourth, many of the streets in my neighbourhood are quite narrow and have parking on both sides . Sometimes the fit is so tight that, even when I'm on my bike, I have to pull aside (usually at an intersection because of the parking) when I see a car approaching from the other way.

    Unfortunately where I live taxis are horribly expensive. Just to go downtown from where I live (about a ten minute bike ride) is something like 12 to 15$ without tip. Were I to take a cab from home to where I used to work, it would have cost something like 45$ one way (without tip) as cabs here also charge by trip time as well as distance. There's a nasty intersection on the way where one can end up waiting for several red lights which could easily run up the fare by an extra 4 - 6$ just waiting.

    Well as far as I know you can pay a small amount of cash, maybe $500-600, for an old pick up truck with a 6 cylinder engine that will give you very good gas mileage, low maintenance costs, low insurance rates and would be a hell of lot cheaper than taking a cab. As far as the streets being narrow, I in no way believe they could be any narrower than some of the back roads that I drive here in Missouri. As far as parking goes, all I can say is that is why I do not like living in the inner city. It is well worth it to me to live in the suburbs and do all my shopping there as well.

    My office is less than two miles away which helps, but I have driven 50 miles one way to work when I lived in Moberly, MO and worked in Columbia, MO. After a while the drive seemed like nothing except when a blizzard came through and it took 3 and a half hours to get home one day. At times I could only see the hood of the car and nothing else.

    Getting back on track, you might want to look into a low maintenance vehicle and possibly moving away from the congested inner city. I understand that at this time you are in a bad way financially since you just lost your job and I am sorry for that, but this may be the chance you need to find employment in the outskirts of town. You can always rent a room somewhere.

    Sorry KK if I am stepping on your toes. I am just trying to help by offering some suggestions. I really do not know nor completely understand your predicament, so I am just trying to offer some encouragement. We could all use some of that at times. I hope the best for you and please PM someone if you are having a difficult time. It never hurts to lean on someone.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    In my neck of the wood's either you drive or make friends with ANYONE that haz a car. The closet grocery store is 12 miles away, one way.

  • ledheadledhead Posts: 1,586
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    In my neck of the wood's either you drive or make friends with ANYONE that haz a car. The closet grocery store is 12 miles away, one way.

    Unless the guy with the car wants you to squeal like a pig, then you gladly walk, even if it's uphill both ways.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    In my neck of the wood's either you drive or make friends with ANYONE that haz a car. The closet grocery store is 12 miles away, one way.

    Do you live in northern Maine? :lol:

    Dana

  • SkirikiSkiriki Posts: 4,975
    edited December 1969

    7thStone said:
    Skiriki said:
    Harrumph. Wishing that April would be already over, and we could roll to May...

    But, but, but...

    Time already goes by too fast. I want to roll the calendar back, not forward.

    :cheese:

    Yeah, I don't know, I feel like this April is defective somehow, and I'd like it refunded. Where do I go to complain?

  • ledheadledhead Posts: 1,586
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    Jaderail said:
    In my neck of the wood's either you drive or make friends with ANYONE that haz a car. The closet grocery store is 12 miles away, one way.

    Do you live in northern Maine? :lol:

    Dana

    Do you live in Attleboro?

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,634
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    Frank0314 said:
    I don't drink outside the house. Less expensive and safer and I've never been to a strip club

    It's not a place to go if:

    - You have moral issues with mostly naked women lap dancing
    - You have a wife
    - You have, or want, a girlfriend and/or a steady relationship
    - You want to save money for retirement
    - You don't like real loud music
    - You have issues with mirror balls, disco lights, and/or fog machines
    - You don't like watching someone that went past a dancers limits being picked up and literally thrown out the door

    For some places, add to that:

    - You feel uncomfortable being propositioned by a mostly naked woman
    - You feel uncomfortable around biker/gangster types
    - You feel uncomfortable in potentially run-down/dangerous sections of town
    - You feel uncomfortable when two or more people start a brawl over a dancer
    - You feel uncomfortable being at the scene of a stabbing or shooting

    I think that sums it up, really. :blank: :blank:

    When you put it that way, it's hard to imagine anyone would want to go there. :grrr:

    Dana

    I can't imagine why anyone who wanted to watch naked or pasty-and-thong-wearing ladies dance wouldn't instead utilize one of the many internet-based options for so doing. But then, I don't understand the appeal of lap dances. It seems to me like they'd be ultimately frustrating in a non-prostitution-based context. And if they're just whack-fodder, again, internet.


    Maybe there's some larger male-based reasoning here that I just don't understand?

  • ledheadledhead Posts: 1,586
    edited December 1969

    Skiriki said:
    7thStone said:
    Skiriki said:
    Harrumph. Wishing that April would be already over, and we could roll to May...

    But, but, but...

    Time already goes by too fast. I want to roll the calendar back, not forward.

    :cheese:

    Yeah, I don't know, I feel like this April is defective somehow, and I'd like it refunded. Where do I go to complain?

    It sure has been a cold April, but hopefully better soon. I guess it will be May by then though.

  • SkirikiSkiriki Posts: 4,975
    edited December 1969

    Maybe there's some larger male-based reasoning here that I just don't understand?

    Well the internet lacks the tactile element, that is to say, physical contact with an another person, even if it is through clothes.

    Plus, I gather that the strippers at Wooly's favorite place are smart cookies and have intelligent chatter with him.

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,634
    edited April 2013

    Skiriki said:
    Maybe there's some larger male-based reasoning here that I just don't understand?

    Well the internet lacks the tactile element, that is to say, physical contact with an another person, even if it is through clothes.

    Plus, I gather that the strippers at Wooly's favorite place are smart cookies and have intelligent chatter with him.

    That makes sense, I guess.

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Ledhead said:
    DanaTA said:
    Jaderail said:
    In my neck of the wood's either you drive or make friends with ANYONE that haz a car. The closet grocery store is 12 miles away, one way.

    Do you live in northern Maine? :lol:

    Dana

    Do you live in Attleboro?

    No, I don't actually. Why do you ask?

    Dana

  • ledheadledhead Posts: 1,586
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    Ledhead said:
    DanaTA said:
    Jaderail said:
    In my neck of the wood's either you drive or make friends with ANYONE that haz a car. The closet grocery store is 12 miles away, one way.

    Do you live in northern Maine? :lol:

    Dana

    Do you live in Attleboro?

    No, I don't actually. Why do you ask?

    Dana

    I was just guessing. You said Boston was 30 or 40 miles NNE of you and that town fit the bill. That's all. I was trying to be clever and failed miserably.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Ledhead said:
    Skiriki said:
    7thStone said:
    Skiriki said:
    Harrumph. Wishing that April would be already over, and we could roll to May...

    But, but, but...

    Time already goes by too fast. I want to roll the calendar back, not forward.

    :cheese:

    Yeah, I don't know, I feel like this April is defective somehow, and I'd like it refunded. Where do I go to complain?

    It sure has been a cold April, but hopefully better soon. I guess it will be May by then though.

    Yes it has. I'm still wearing long sleeve tee shirts! The daffodils have managed to pop open, though. There's a lot of them, too. The bulbs keep multiplying. I told Diane that she has to do some dividing so there's room for other flowers.

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited April 2013

    Ledhead said:
    DanaTA said:

    No, I don't actually. Why do you ask?

    Dana

    I was just guessing. You said Boston was 30 or 40 miles NNE of you and that town fit the bill. That's all. I was trying to be clever and failed miserably.

    I visit No. Attleboro now and then. I'm more east than that, though.

    Dana

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    so spoiled today. took a taxi home. i waited in the chinese take-out, bought food i didn't want but it was a warm and dry place to sit and wait. drizzles outside

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Actually, I just looked at the map on Google and I guess Boston is really almost dead north of me, only a teensy bit northeast. :red:

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Yeah, it's been raining most of today here, too. The grass loves it, though. It's already getting long. I have to mow it for the first time tomorrow or Thursday. I hope the mower's battery is actually charging. I might have broken the charger connection in the Fall. :-S

    Dana

  • ledheadledhead Posts: 1,586
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    Yeah, it's been raining most of today here, too. The grass loves it, though. It's already getting long. I have to mow it for the first time tomorrow or Thursday. I hope the mower's battery is actually charging. I might have broken the charger connection in the Fall. :-S

    Dana

    I so much want to visit the Northeast. That is one part of the nation I yearn to see. I was stationed in Lakehurst, NJ, but that is as far North as I got.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Ledhead said:

    Plenty of room in this world for everybody, though! At least for now... :blank:

    ...I guess a lot of it for me has to do with someone else being in control other than me. That is part of why I don't like to fly, ...

    I feel the same way. I've known a lot of bad drivers, and prefer to drive myself. No worries about drunk MBTA drivers, bus drivers, airline pilots. Of course, you do have to worry about "the"other guy". But I'm a very good driver, and very aware of what's going on and have been fortunate enough to have avoided run-ins with drunk drivers. Last time I had an accident that was my fault was in the 70s. I only started drving in the 70s. Last time I had an accident at all was in 2010, when someone rear-ended me while I was stopped at an exit. Before that it was in the 80s. All other car damage (very little) was done by hit and runs while it was parked and I was in my apartment. Haven't lived in an apartment since November 2001.

    Somehow I missed this post and a couple of pages in this thread. I don't know how that happened.

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Ledhead said:
    DanaTA said:
    Yeah, it's been raining most of today here, too. The grass loves it, though. It's already getting long. I have to mow it for the first time tomorrow or Thursday. I hope the mower's battery is actually charging. I might have broken the charger connection in the Fall. :-S

    Dana

    I so much want to visit the Northeast. That is one part of the nation I yearn to see. I was stationed in Lakehurst, NJ, but that is as far North as I got.

    It is a nice area. Massachusetts has some nice beaches, if you are a beach person. And Newport, RI isn't a far drive. I love the foliage up here in the autumn. And a few hours drive and we're in the mountains of New Hampshire, or Vermont, or Maine. All quite different, all beautiful. Sometimes we travel to upstate New York, which is beautiful, too. Once we stayed in Lake Placid...not during the Olympics, though. That was a pricy area to eat.

    Dana

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited April 2013

    Morning. Rotten day yesterday is only a bad dream iunder this morning's sun struck glowy blue white sky. Still a little coldified but not so bad today :)

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  • ledheadledhead Posts: 1,586
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    Ledhead said:
    DanaTA said:
    Yeah, it's been raining most of today here, too. The grass loves it, though. It's already getting long. I have to mow it for the first time tomorrow or Thursday. I hope the mower's battery is actually charging. I might have broken the charger connection in the Fall. :-S

    Dana

    I so much want to visit the Northeast. That is one part of the nation I yearn to see. I was stationed in Lakehurst, NJ, but that is as far North as I got.

    It is a nice area. Massachusetts has some nice beaches, if you are a beach person. And Newport, RI isn't a far drive. I love the foliage up here in the autumn. And a few hours drive and we're in the mountains of New Hampshire, or Vermont, or Maine. All quite different, all beautiful. Sometimes we travel to upstate New York, which is beautiful, too. Once we stayed in Lake Placid...not during the Olympics, though. That was a pricy area to eat.

    Dana

    I used to like the beaches when I was a bit more fit, but that has been quite a few years ago now.
    My wife, Phyllis, has been wanting to go there for the past 4 or 5 years and for some reason we keep going other places.

    Our last unplanned vacation (all of them are unplanned) was Utah, Nevada and Arizona. We drove there from Kansas City and stayed gone for 7 days. The Grand Canyon has to be one of the most magnificent sights.

    We go on a week long vacation about every two years, so this is the year for another one. Maybe I'll drive by and honk. See ya this Fall!

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Ledhead said:
    DanaTA said:
    Ledhead said:
    DanaTA said:
    Yeah, it's been raining most of today here, too. The grass loves it, though. It's already getting long. I have to mow it for the first time tomorrow or Thursday. I hope the mower's battery is actually charging. I might have broken the charger connection in the Fall. :-S

    Dana

    I so much want to visit the Northeast. That is one part of the nation I yearn to see. I was stationed in Lakehurst, NJ, but that is as far North as I got.

    It is a nice area. Massachusetts has some nice beaches, if you are a beach person. And Newport, RI isn't a far drive. I love the foliage up here in the autumn. And a few hours drive and we're in the mountains of New Hampshire, or Vermont, or Maine. All quite different, all beautiful. Sometimes we travel to upstate New York, which is beautiful, too. Once we stayed in Lake Placid...not during the Olympics, though. That was a pricy area to eat.

    Dana

    I used to like the beaches when I was a bit more fit, but that has been quite a few years ago now.
    My wife, Phyllis, has been wanting to go there for the past 4 or 5 years and for some reason we keep going other places.

    Our last unplanned vacation (all of them are unplanned) was Utah, Nevada and Arizona. We drove there from Kansas City and stayed gone for 7 days. The Grand Canyon has to be one of the most magnificent sights.

    We go on a week long vacation about every two years, so this is the year for another one. Maybe I'll drive by and honk. See ya this Fall!

    I'd love to see the Grand Canyon, and the Badlands, and Half Dome, and probably a lot of other places. Up here, for a magnificent view, try Mt. Washington in New Hampshire. If you like risky driving, you can take your car up the auto road. I prefer to use the coaches that go up. They have specially equipped vans with oversized radiators and special mountain climbing gearboxes and such. It's comfortable, and you get a little tour guide type talk that points out interesting things and facts. Of course, they only stay at the summit for 30 minutes, then it's back down. That's usually enough, though. You can see into New York state, Vermont, Maine and into Canada from the summit. On a good day they say you can see the ocean...albeit quite distant. Mt. Washington is the site of the worst weather on Earth. Record winds of over 200 mph have been recorded there. The old observation station there and another building or two, were chained down with huge linked chains going right over the roof! Three different weather patterns collide there.

    Another good view is from the summit of Cannon Mountain in New Hampshire. You can see into Canada from there, too, I think. But in any case, it's a beautiful view. And you can take the tram and stay as long as you like as long as you take the last one down at the end of the day. The observation deck is a short hike from the tram station, with awesome views off cliffs in clearings on the way. We used to go up in the winter some years and hike across the ski trails (have to watch out for skiers) and go up to the observation deck. What a beautiful site in the winter! Once we hiked up the mountain, then took the tram back down. Cannon is 4,100 feet.

    Dana

  • ledheadledhead Posts: 1,586
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    Ledhead said:
    DanaTA said:
    Ledhead said:
    DanaTA said:
    Yeah, it's been raining most of today here, too. The grass loves it, though. It's already getting long. I have to mow it for the first time tomorrow or Thursday. I hope the mower's battery is actually charging. I might have broken the charger connection in the Fall. :-S

    Dana

    I so much want to visit the Northeast. That is one part of the nation I yearn to see. I was stationed in Lakehurst, NJ, but that is as far North as I got.

    It is a nice area. Massachusetts has some nice beaches, if you are a beach person. And Newport, RI isn't a far drive. I love the foliage up here in the autumn. And a few hours drive and we're in the mountains of New Hampshire, or Vermont, or Maine. All quite different, all beautiful. Sometimes we travel to upstate New York, which is beautiful, too. Once we stayed in Lake Placid...not during the Olympics, though. That was a pricy area to eat.

    Dana

    I used to like the beaches when I was a bit more fit, but that has been quite a few years ago now.
    My wife, Phyllis, has been wanting to go there for the past 4 or 5 years and for some reason we keep going other places.

    Our last unplanned vacation (all of them are unplanned) was Utah, Nevada and Arizona. We drove there from Kansas City and stayed gone for 7 days. The Grand Canyon has to be one of the most magnificent sights.

    We go on a week long vacation about every two years, so this is the year for another one. Maybe I'll drive by and honk. See ya this Fall!

    I'd love to see the Grand Canyon, and the Badlands, and Half Dome, and probably a lot of other places. Up here, for a magnificent view, try Mt. Washington in New Hampshire. If you like risky driving, you can take your car up the auto road. I prefer to use the coaches that go up. They have specially equipped vans with oversized radiators and special mountain climbing gearboxes and such. It's comfortable, and you get a little tour guide type talk that points out interesting things and facts. Of course, they only stay at the summit for 30 minutes, then it's back down. That's usually enough, though. You can see into New York state, Vermont, Maine and into Canada from the summit. On a good day they say you can see the ocean...albeit quite distant. Mt. Washington is the site of the worst weather on Earth. Record winds of over 200 mph have been recorded there. The old observation station there and another building or two, were chained down with huge linked chains going right over the roof! Three different weather patterns collide there.

    Another good view is from the summit of Cannon Mountain in New Hampshire. You can see into Canada from there, too, I think. But in any case, it's a beautiful view. And you can take the tram and stay as long as you like as long as you take the last one down at the end of the day. The observation deck is a short hike from the tram station, with awesome views off cliffs in clearings on the way. We used to go up in the winter some years and hike across the ski trails (have to watch out for skiers) and go up to the observation deck. What a beautiful site in the winter! Once we hiked up the mountain, then took the tram back down. Cannon is 4,100 feet.

    Dana

    The Badlands are really beautiful. Very colorful. I don't particularly like risky driving, but I have driven to the top of Pikes Peak just outside of Colorado Springs, CO. It is around 14,000 feet. The drive back down was the scary part. At the time I did not know how to drive down the steep mountain grades and our brakes got extremely hot. The park rangers check your brakes and we had to sit for almost an hour to let them cool off before we could continue down the mountain. Needless to say, but I now know how to drive down steep grades.

    I must say you are making it tempting for that to be our next vacation spot. I love green mountains as well as the rocky ones. We visit Arkansas almost yearly since it's only 3 or 4 hours away, depending on what part we visit. Very pretty down there. I want to see the Northeast because that is part of the original colonies and full of history.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    In my neck of the wood's either you drive or make friends with ANYONE that haz a car. The closet grocery store is 12 miles away, one way.

    hehe the shopping centre and supermarket at the end of my street is going to close for a rebuild, everyone is complaining they have to walk to the other shopping centre and supermarket at the other end of the street meantime - OMG the world as we know it is ending :lol:

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Ledhead said:

    The Badlands are really beautiful. Very colorful. I don't particularly like risky driving, but I have driven to the top of Pikes Peak just outside of Colorado Springs, CO. It is around 14,000 feet. The drive back down was the scary part. At the time I did not know how to drive down the steep mountain grades and our brakes got extremely hot. The park rangers check your brakes and we had to sit for almost an hour to let them cool off before we could continue down the mountain. Needless to say, but I now know how to drive down steep grades.

    I must say you are making it tempting for that to be our next vacation spot. I love green mountains as well as the rocky ones. We visit Arkansas almost yearly since it's only 3 or 4 hours away, depending on what part we visit. Very pretty down there. I want to see the Northeast because that is part of the original colonies and full of history.

    Yeah, people get into trouble coming down Mt. Washington. They are on their brakes too much. One time, when we were going up, the driver pointed out someone who would be in trouble. The guy was splashing water on his brakes to cool them! The other way up to the summit is by the Cog Railway. If you like black soot in your face. It's a coal operated locomotive. It actually pushes the passenger cars up the mountain I think. Not sure about that, but I think that's what they say. It's not my preferred mode of travel, though.

    For green mountains, it's Vermont. In fact, the main range there is called The Green Mountains. They are more rolling, gentle slopes. The mountains in the White Mountains region are more rugged. They still have plenty of trees. Washington's peak is above tree line. You go through three climate zones on that mountain. Near the top, the second oldest trees in the world grow very slowly. they are shorter than most adults and have been there for a very long time. You can see the change in the types of trees on the way up. In the winter, they convert several of the vans with treads that turn them into snow climbers. They don't go to the summit with them, that would be too dangerous. But they go pretty high and give amazing winter views. I haven't been able to try that yet, money has been lacking these past several years. We used to go up there for a long weekend in the Winter and another long weekend in the Spring. And then at least one week during the Summer or very early Autumn.

    Massachusetts has some historical sites, yes. Not a long drive from here is Plymouth, or Plimouth Plantation. The Plymouth Rock (or what's left of it) is there and the Mayflower II (or is it III?), a replica of the original ship that landed there. And they have the plantation where people live and dress like the original pilgrims. Then there's Fall River (my old city) and New Bedford, not quite that old but historical nevertheless. Fall River was a big textile center for many years. There are still some of the old mills standing, though many have burned down. They burn quite hot. The wood floors were soaked with machine oil from the textile and/or sewing machines. Years ago, I was on my way home from work, and was on Rt. 195 when passing a little more than a block away from one that was burning. It was winter, my windows were closed, but I still felt the heat from the fire!!! That was big news that week. What's left have been converted to office buildings or housing. Some were shopping outlets, I don't know how many of those are left. Fall River also has the Battleship Cove, an historical museum area. There is the main ship, the Battleship Massachusetts, known as Big Mamie. There are several other WWII ships there, a submarine, a destroyer, a PT boat and I think a couple others. And there's a maritime museum. And an old restored carousel on the grounds of the waterfront park. About five or ten minutes walk up river and there's another waterfront park with a replica of the Iwo Jima memorial statue, with the six soldiers raising the flag. Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima I am told that one of those guys was a distant cousin of my family on my mother's side. And of course, New Bedford is known as the Whaling City and has still used fishing ports and fish industry. Then there's Salem north of Boston, famous for witch hunts and...well, you know. There is a path through Boston called the Freedom Trail that passes through some historic areas. I guess there's a lot of history in Boston.

    OK, too much of me talking now.

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Jaderail said:
    In my neck of the wood's either you drive or make friends with ANYONE that haz a car. The closet grocery store is 12 miles away, one way.

    hehe the shopping centre and supermarket at the end of my street is going to close for a rebuild, everyone is complaining they have to walk to the other shopping centre and supermarket at the other end of the street meantime - OMG the world as we know it is ending :lol:

    How long is that street?

    Dana

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