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Tire chains? Yup. Still got a set rusting in the shed, but haven't used them for years - off-pavement use only. They work like a charm once you get them on - you can go places where most folks think you need 4WD. However, they are a pain in the butt to put on and take off.
Frozen pipes? NW Ontario here, and yes, unfortunately. Its cold, but we're used to it. -40 is about where C and F come together. We were away for a few days over the holiday, and when we got home, there was no heat on the second floor. We have hot water heating and one of the pipes in the heating circuit must have frozen. I'm still trying to find it and thaw it. As for heat in the house protecting them from freezing, that is generally true, except that many homes aren't designed with that in mind. As far as I'm concerned, there should be no plumbing at all in outside walls. The problem is that the plumbing often runs through the insulation so that it ends up being insulated from the interior heat as much as the exterior cold.
Can you go outside when it is -30? Sure. People around here do it all the time. The ones who do it for fun or recreation - skiing, ice fishing, etc. - they are a little nuts IMO. As hacsart said, its all about dressing properly, and you want to be active, not standing around. If you are really working hard, you can actually get hot and sweaty, so you need to sometimes peel off a layer or two. If its calm and sunny, even those temperatures can be quite pleasant - for a while, at least. I've had frostbite so many times the circulation in my hands is pretty much screwed up. Such is life in the north.
Its just after noon here and about -1 F/-14 C, so not too bad, although there is a bit of a NW wind which always makes it more miserable for us warm-blooded critters.
Yeah, no kidding. The other day I was looking at a temperature map at one of the weather sites, and it shows thousands of individual temperatures across a US map. And even within a 10 mile radius the temps vary by even 5 or 10 degrees at any point in time. And that changes every minute, across the US as clouds come over and the sun changes, and so on. Makes me wonder what "average" temps across the planet even means. Especially if they're talking a difference of 1 or 2 degrees? Wow, totally beyond my understanding.
Yeah, and it seems like everyday a new datapoint comes in and makes it even more complex. For instance, they've pretty much decided that those strange giant holes that keep popping up in the Siberian tundra are because of the average temperature going up, the permafrost thawing out and a methane pocket erupting because the ground is softer because of the thawing. That's something that no one had expected, and it took a while to figure out what was going on.
There's another northern reality that folks in more southerly climes often don't grasp. I have mentioned on occasion in passing that my vehicle wouldn't start because I forgot to plug it in. "Plug it in?" some would say, "You drive an electric car?". No, I would have to explain, it has a block heater installed in one of the frost plugs in the engine block, which is used to keep the engine moderately warm in extreme cold so that it starts more readily. Problem is, at extremely low temperatures the metal contracts, making everything tighter and more difficult to turn over. Add to that the fact that even multigrade engine oil becomes less viscous at such low temperatures and the amount of cranking power necessary to turn the engine over becomes significant. Add to that the fact that the battery itself becomes less efficient and failure to turn over or start if not plugged in is a common occurence. Some people even use battery blankets (heated battery wraps) to ensure cold weather starts.
North America may currently be cold but most of the rest of the world is warmer then average; as already mentioned the polar vortex which would normally be over the pole has shifted south.
...and suddenly, 54° with rain coming down in buckets here and flood warnings. Just last weekend we had a couple inches of snow over about a quarter inch of ice.
Portland sort of has its own "micro climate" due to being at the end of the Columbia Gorge. We can have several inches of snow in the city but once you drive to the southern environs of the metro area or just north of the "Couv", it will be raining. The Gorge acts as a "weather funnel" both in winter and summer. During summer our 90° and 100° days happen when we have east winds coming through the Gorge off the high desert. When we get those"Oregon Santa Anas", Portland will often be warmer than places in the south Willamette Valley like Salem, Corvallis, and Eugene. Consequently when the winds are out of the Southwest that's when we get the cool rainy weather as the coast range isn't as much of a barrier like the Cascades are.
After living along the western shore of Lake Michigan, it took some getting used to as there it is completely the opposite, East is cool to cold and damp, Southwest, warm and dry.
Thanks. But "average" still doesn't make any sense to me. Trying to come up with an average when temperature even within a few miles changes by the minute, depending on clouds and sun and elevation and so on. And to do it within 1/2 of a degree?
I mean, look at the actual temps right now across the US. From below zero to over 70F. And in an hour all of that will be different. And somehow they come up with an average over the entire earth? Within less than a degree?? I just don't get it.
Heh.. My Lada actually had a crank that could be used not only for starting, but for turning it over in cold weather to loosen it up a bit before you went to start it (and yes there was a block heater as well.. (and a manual priming lever on the fuel pump, and carb heat for the winter..)
...you had a Lada?
To quote a wonderful actress (who we lost this year) from her signature role: "You're braver than I thought".
Guess it's better than a Yugo, which Consumer Reports dubbed as the first "disposable car" when it was marketed here.
Where I come from there is a saying going "built like a Russian tank". I have the deepest respect for Russian engineering skills
The real problem isn't that the planet is going to somehow become uninhabitable for humans with a few degrees rise in temperature. It won't. In fact we might wind up with more available farmland (and thus more potential food) than we have right now.
The real problem is, humans are coastal animals. Take a quick look at our population distribution and see how much is concentrated near oceans. If the temperature permanently rises too much? That all floods. Not to mention the potential damage to rivers, which is another water type you find humans all clustered by. The problem isn't extinction, it's massive displacement and almost a total shift in the useful geography of the planet.
I dunno, it just seems like the incredible benefits of warmer temps to the vast majority of people now living in the cold, versus the relatively small percent of the world's population living in the area of the coastlines that might be affected by any sea rise...
I mean if you have visited any other countries, or driven along the coastlines in the US, there's a TON of coastline that's cliffs, or uninhabited, or in very poor countries and inhabited by huts that can be moved overnight, and so on. Yeah, if sea level rises appreciably, some big cities are in real trouble. But it's a bit like condemning land when you build a highway thru the middle of town. People gotta move. And it will cost big bucks. But is the cost of fixing the issue worth it? And will it really happen?
I dunno, this stuff is way beyond my understanding. Seems like everyone else has it figured out though. I guess I'm either too dumb or just ask too many questions for my own good.
Maybe both...
Generally speaking I agree with you, I'd like to live in one of those old historic times when plants grew down in Antarctica. But the changeover would be hell and I get why other people don't want it. There would be tens of millions of people displaced in the US alone.
I just wish I could find some sea level measurement data from big cities like Miami and NYC and so on that show that there's some significant movement. I mean, shouldn't all the coastal cities around the world be noticing rising levels? I can't imagine the sea level would rise only in a few spots
Global sea level is rising steadily. Local sea levels can vary thanks to tectonics, etc. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise
I don't want to get sucked into this discussion over here but I want to point out two things:
1. There are lots of people living on islands with nowhere to go if the sealevel continues to rise, and it's happening right now.
2.Coral reefs inhabit 25% of all marine life on this planet. They are dying right now.
ETA: It's a VERY complex problem and nobody knows anything for sure, it's all just educated guesses, but we can already see the effects of it, that's undeniable.
83 degrees here in LA... But at night it gets colder. One night it was cold enough to wear a parka! But that was probably like 45 degrees, we're not used to cold here LOL.
I'm originally from NYC and forgot what cold felt like like! I was at the Grove the other night (a big nice upscale outdoor mall with a movie theater) and they decorated it so Christmassy and it was cold that night, it almost felt like back East. Until I realized many of the lights were wrapped around palm trees
That's just not fair.
Umm, no. Here in Australia, 85% of the population live within 50km (30mile) of the coastlines. Moving inland, we're faced with two problems - the lack of arable land and lack of water. And, when temperatures do rise, we'll dry up even moreso.
In the northern hemisphere, everyone knows about the jetstream. However, few people realise the prevailing winds here are circular and blowing outwards (that's the simplest way I can describe it) - all due to the size and placement of the place. Essentially, the top soil and any moisture are all blown off the continent off into the ocean.
But somehow, I and almost everyone I know has a cold! Maybe because the temperature drops so much at night or way too many parties, shaking hands and eating food that people possibly coughed or sneezed on! (Yuck)
But Wonderland, being from NYC, you do realize that a REAL Christmas is pine trees and ice skating at Rockefeller Center and snow on Christmas morning. The Grove just doesn't hack it...
And as I recall, the Grove has a little fountain there right? But you can't even ice skate on it
Yes, the fountain is beautiful, lights up and blasts classic Christmas music from Dean Martin or Sinatra. Even AFTER. Christmas! Santa's sleigh and reindeer above that, a big Santa house, tons of lights everywhere, poinsettias, VERY Christmassy and beautiful despite no real snow or pine trees. They used to pump fake snow out onto the streets but it was getting in the food of the outdoor restaurants LOL. I love LA, but when people say how fake it is, they're not kidding!
...yeah, here in Portland Ural motorcycles have become somewhat popular, particularly the sidecar version as it has 2 wheel drive. They also are somewhat "retro" looking compared to all the crotch rockets and big hogs on the streets here. A friend has one and says it is very reliable.
The Daz forums are not the place to debate climate change.
Indeed we had a Lada - for a good 5 years or so.. best winter car ever, even if it was rather agricultural....
...sounds like their "5 year plan" worked.
If I ever won the lotto, wouldn't mind getting my hands on late 60s - early 70s Gaz 13 Chaika. Talk about a "tank" (gets about the same mileage too). During the cold war US film studios would often use old Fords or Checkers (painted black) as Soviet government cars as they looked pretty similar.
76/77 was a cold winter. There was snow in Florida! It was blown into our carport a couple feet deep and it stuck, for several hours. We had school that day, but it was canceled the following day because the local power companies said they wouldn't be able to handle the demand for electricity if the schools were open.