Novica & Forum Members Tips & Product Reviews Pt 13
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Just clicking on it to load wont work in Iray, well not without a lot of work, only 3delight, but if you load the HDRI into the Environment Dome of Iray that does.
@Novica. Could you please post a render of Aella? No hurry though. Thank you!
Thanks @Fishtales! I have the products which I bought before I understood about the differences and was frustrated when I tried to use them and got 'Black' on my screen. Now I can.
Mary
LOL I actually rendered her yesterday two different ways. I've been outside doing massive yardwork yesterday and today, so since I'm inside resting, I'll go ahead and post her. :) Give me a few.
Aella (G8f) Gem Hair (G3f)(G8F) Beautiful Brows (G8F) Agate Noir (G8F)
Used 9 straight for the eyebrows from Beautiful Brows on the normal look. There wasn't a brown brow unless I'm just not seeing it. There are dark eyelashes. I think that pale mark at the end and slightly above the brow is from the Beautiful Brows. I'll look on the white Aella in a minute. I'll add those images here.
Gem Hair has a nice white color (and I added a slight blue tint.) You'll need to watch your angle with that hair. If you look at the fairies, and look at the side view on mine, that arch cutting out the hair going over the ear looks a bit too curved and cut up into the pattern.
Agate Noir has a nice flow, I didn't do anything to it. Also has what looks to be a nice variety material set Psyche
I don't like the amount of blush on her. I'd postwork some of that out.
You'll see how different she looks with the "normal" and "white-blue" gal. :) You do get a variety I do wish the blush were less, there was a brown brow, and that all the makeups weren't so harsh. (I wish that with a LOT of vendors. Seems like the trend is going with overly bold, (to me garish) bright colors. We need some natural looking browns, grays, barely-there mauves and greens.
Orbital Merc (G8F) Layla Hair (G3F / G8F)
Oh, I just have to tell you the latest about Ci Pwff. First, he's really grown. He was 15 pounds when he came home, now he's 32 pounds. Just turned five months old. Well, he's figured out how to get out of the kitchen nook area, where I have all the pooches barracaded in with gate panels. That's a long story. It's nice having them all in the nook so all their toys and bones are in one place.
Last night, I decided to trust him because it's hit and miss, and he was snoozing so soundly in front of the floor fan I didn't want to wake him up.
This morning, I got up and came out to the great room, and lo and behold my shoes and socks are all neatly in a pile beside a huge stack of toys, in the great room. With Ci Pwff laying there innocently beside them like, "I did good, huh?"
Thank you. I will have to remember that if I pick it up
I'd like to make a useful list of hair which has a white or very light gray option so folks can add their own color to it easily. I thought about this as I was trying to find a white hair for Aella. People shouldn't have to buy other hair products (shaders) so if they know which hair is light, they can more easily piddle with it. If you find a super light blonde (such as Platinum) we can include that, too.
Anyone game to go through their hairs for Gen 8 gals / guys and contribute? I'll add it to a main list, then put it in the References on the first page under Tips: Hair- White / Light Gray. I'd like to do Genesis 8 Gals first, but if the hair has a Genesis 3, or Genesis 8 Male option, let me know and I'll note that in the list.
I'd like to start at the top of the alphabet, I'm using Content Library- Genesis 8 Female Hairs.
If you have any by the vendor which aren't listed, or any in the alphabet that we're on which aren't listed, let me know and I'll add to the main list. Tell me which ones you're doing and I'll put your name by them. See next post
White or Very Light Gray / Blonde Hair Genesis 8 Females
Please note if the hair is found under a vendor, such as 3D Universe, 3D-GHDesign, etc so folks know where to look and see if they have more under that vendor than what you listed. I've got the A's that I have below. You can do more A's if you have them, or start on the B's, C's, etc.
I need to have ALL OF THE ONES YOU CHECKED, SO WE HAVE A COMPLETE LIST OF THE HAIR WHICH WAS CHECKED. An X will go by the ones without white, very light gray, or super light blonde options.
#, A
3D Universe
Cadee Ice Queen, Shimmer Gray
Cayley Snow White, Storm Grey
Dayton White, Natural Grey
Emma Platinum Blonde- looks almost white
Fawne Grey, White
Paige Snow, Storm, and blonde is very pale/white
Ravyn Blonde Ash, Grey Storm, White Snow, Streak White Snow
Toon Generations Ash Blonde, Grey, Platinum, Storm
3D-GHDesign- Zahara Hair Grey
Abigail Hair Platinum
Afro Fade Hair White (The grey looks really dark)
Afro Styles White
Ainsley Hair White, Grey, Ash
Amelia Hair White
Andria Hair Maybe Blonde 04. X White X Grey
Anime Bun Hair Grey, Ivory X White
Annelise Hair Platinum X White X Light Grey, has a dark one
Apex Hair 09 is very light blonde X White X Grey
Arwen Hair Platinum X White X Grey
Axarra Hair 1, 2, 4, 11
Ayako Hair X White X Grey (Hard to tell though)
B
BadKitteh Co Bad Clown Hair White Faint X Grey
Betty Hair - Gray, Platinum Blonde X White
Blair Hair - Grey, White, Ash, Black White (some of these seem pale, while others the black seems dominant.)
Blithe Hair - Grey, White, Ash, Black White
Briareth Hair - Snow White X Grey
Bronwyn Hair - Grey, White, Ash, Black White
Bump It Hair - did have some medium blonde X White X Grey
Bunny Hair - Base Color - Grey (This is a 6 step coloring system, so you build your personal hair color.) X White
C
Cady Hair - Grey, White, Ash, Black White
Caleela Hair - Ash Blue, Grey, White, Ash, Black White
Calista Tail Hair - # 12 (Grey), #13 (White)
Camellia Hair - medium blonde X White X Grey
Casual Spikes Hair - Ash, Grey, Greying X White
Catgirl Hair - White X Grey
Channen Hair - Grey, White, Ash
Charli Hair - wild hair color mixes X White X Grey
Courtney Hair - Grey, White, Ash
PA Crocodile
Acicia Hair - Dark - Grey , Light - Silver (Hair is divided into darks and lights) X White
Coreine Hair - White X Grey
Ichigo Hair - Rice, Silver X White
Maris Hair - Rice, Silver X White
Ruyun Hair - White X Grey
Curl Me Hair - # 11 (Silver) X White
Cute Bob Hair - Salt and Pepper, Silver X White
D
Delphi Hair White, Grey
dForce Alexa Hair - Silver, White1, White2, Streaks Silver, Streaks, White1, Streaks2
dForce Bristol Hair - Silver, White1, White2
dForce Spikey Short Hair - Silver2, Silver, White
dForce Corporate Hair - Grey, Silver X White
dForce Curly Bun Hair - Platinum Blonde, Silver Grey X White
dForce Darcy 8 Hair - Blonde, Grey X White
dForce Double Dutch Braids - White X Grey
dForce Faye Hair - Silver, White1, White2, Streaks Silver, Streaks, White1, Streaks2
dForce Ingrid Hair - Silver, White1, White2, Streaks Silver, Streaks, White1, Streaks2
dForce Jay Hair - White1, White2, Streaks, White1, Streaks2
dForce Kay Hair - Silver, White1, White2
dForce Lea Hair - Silver, White1, White2
dForce Long Morphing Hair - Silver Grey X White
dForce Raquel Hair - Silver, White1, White2
dForce Saul Hair - Silver, White1, White2
dForce Side Swept Hair - White, Light Grey
dForce Soft Curls Hair - Light Silver, Silver Gray
Dulcibella HD Hair & Eyebrows (black hair color only) X White X Grey
E
Elan Hair White, Grey
Elegant Bun White, Grey
Elllisea Hair White, Grey
Emiko Hair Platinum, Golden Blonde X White X Grey
EmJay Hair 09 is very light blonde X White X Grey
EmmaAndJordi All of these are Platinum Blonde, Snow White, and grey was very dark.
Candie Hair
Carla Hair
Elsinore Hair
Jackie Hair
Kavindra Hair
Liberty Hair
Lizy Hair
Peyton Hair
Rawana Hair
Santana Hair
Evelyn Hair White, Gray, and possibly Ash
F
Fane Hair White, Grey, Ash
Fantasy Woodland Hair 8 (Ash) and 11 (White or Grey)
Faux Hawk Hair X White, Grey
Feral Fey
Curler Hair X White, Light Grey, Older
G
Georgina Hair Platinum X White X Grey
Gigi Hair X White, X Grey
Gizelle Hair Ash Grey (May be too dark) White
Godess Braids NT Blond 2, Silver X White
In progress, anyone can continue/add. The next one I have is Goldtassel. I'm signing off and won't be online much tomorrow- going to be hauling vegetation.
I have a lot and went through to the D's. Need dinner.
Some 3DU's:
Gayll Hair - Grey, White
Heidi Hair - Dark Grey
Toon Generations - Ash Blonde, Grey, Platinum, Storm
Betty Hair - Gray, Platinum Blonde
Blair Hair - Grey, White, Ash, Black White (some of these seem pale, while others the black seems dominant.)
Blithe Hair - Grey, White, Ash, Black White
Briareth Hair - Snow White
Bronwyn Hair - Grey, White, Ash, Black White
Bunny Hair - Base Color - Grey (This is a 6 step coloring system, so you build your personal hair color.)
Cady Hair - Grey, White, Ash, Black White
Caleela Hair - Ash Blue, Grey, White, Ash, Black White
Calista Tail Hair - # 12 (Grey), #13 (White)
Casual Spikes Hair - Ash, Grey, Greying
Catgirl Hair - White
Channen Hair - Grey, White, Ash
Courtney Hair - Grey, White, Ash
PA Crocodile
Acicia Hair - Dark - Grey , Light - Silver (Hair is divided into darks and lights)
Coreine Hair - White
Ichigo Hair - Rice, Silver
Maris Hair - Rice, Silver
Ruyun Hair - White
Curl Me Hair - # 11 (Silver)
Cute Bob Hair - Salt and Pepper, Silver
dForce Alexa Hair - Silver, White1, White2, Streaks Silver, Streaks, White1, Streaks2
dForce Bristol Hair - Silver, White1, White2
dForce Spikey Short Hair - Silver2, Silver, White
dForce Corporate Hair - Grey, Silver
dForce Curly Bun Hair - Platinum Blonde, Silver Grey
dForce Darcy 8 Hair - Blonde, Grey
dForce Double Dutch Braids - White
dForce Faye Hair - Silver, White1, White2, Streaks Silver, Streaks, White1, Streaks2
dForce Ingrid Hair - Silver, White1, White2, Streaks Silver, Streaks, White1, Streaks2
dForce Jay Hair - White1, White2, Streaks, White1, Streaks2
dForce Kay Hair - Silver, White1, White2
dForce Lea Hair - Silver, White1, White2
dForce Long Morphing Hair - Silver Grey
dForce Raquel Hair - Silver, White1, White2
dForce Saul Hair - Silver, White1, White2
dForce Side Swept Hair - White, Light Grey
dForce Soft Curls Hair - Light Silver, Silver Gray
I can do links later, if you need them Novica?
Mary
Edit: will go back and note the ones without a white/silver hair, there weren't many acutally.
Hairs from A - D that I checked without white or silver or silver/grey hair materials:
Bump It Hair - did have some medium blonde
Camellia Hair - did have some medium blonde
Charli Hair - wild hair color mixes
Dulcibella HD Hair & Eyebrows (black hair color only)
@memcneil70 Great list! Thanks for pitching in. I'll go through my B-D's after I take a shower. Just finished yardwork for the day. Our county dump has removed all cost for vegetation hauling through Tuesday, so far I've saved over $65. Been cutting tree limbs and trimming like crazy for four days, and raking leaves. Everyone being home means yardwork, and our county was smart to do this- everyone is hauling their yard stuff if they can. And they had a person out by the road handing out the tickets and we don't have to even wait in line at the scales to get through. Very well organized. I go around the scale/booth, pull up to the vegetation area, give a second guy the ticket, and away I go.
No problem, about to head out for Bugsy's night walk and then off to chill for bed. Up at 0330 for work day. But, there is E - Z tomorrow if others have not got there yet. I also found a hair that I don't think made it to Smart Content. I am using Content Library under G8F/Hair which is cleaner. But one word of caution for everyone, the dForce colors, may shift depending on your monitors.
BTW, were your socks and shoes without teeth marks?
And if he likes leather, and you have books, I would put all nice books up above his reach. I lost a group to puppies over the years.
No yard work for me, but I cheered last week when some tulips blossomed that were left over from last year. But no plantings by the city this year, the budgets all going to more critical things.
Mary
LOL yep, but my shoe laces were sopping wet!
To answer an earlier question, we're not doing links. That would take forever and a day.
Noticed an update for 4.12 in DIM. Has anyone seen a message about what is in the update?
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/341006/daz-studio-pro-beta-version-4-12-1-117-updated#latest
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/353851/daz-studio-4-12-pro-general-release-updated#latest (See posts on April 3 and later)
After installing the update DS would just sit indefinitely with the message "preparing scene". I had to update my nVida drive and that solved the problem.
Is there documentation for why it seems the "architectural sampler" is missing from the optimization tab?
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/5112696/#Comment_5112696
Removed the "Architectural Sampler" property from Render Settings
Way back when, I used the Architectural Sampler because all areas of the image were given equal weight, and when the light areas were clear of noise/grain, so were the dark areas. However, once I turned Quality off, it was no longer an issue. I didn't even notice when the option stopped working.
@barbult and @L'Adair, Thank you. I've been using it up intal a few days ago when a news daz version installed and noticed it than as I wanted to try it on the woodsman bathroom. and the option is now gone.
I recommend turning off the Quality setting, (whatever it's called now,) to anyone who asks about render settings. Set Max Time to 0, as well. Then you control the length of the render by setting Max Samples. If you set that too low, it's easy enough to increase the number and hit the Resume button. That's always rendered much the same way as the Architectural Sampler. The new Iray in the later releases of DS does more per sample, too. Each iteration may take longer, (don't know if that's still true with the latest release,) but it takes fewer samples to get a good, clean image.
@Novica, I went through my hairs where you listed and found some you did not have. I also pushed through Goldtassel to save you a chunk of work.
EmmaAndJordi - Same notes as Novica noted above on color choices.
Carpathian Hair
Talisa Hair
Feral Fey
Beautiful Beadhead - All colors are in the darkish range, though there is a Grey and Pepper Pot. No White or Silver.
Handy Hair - There was a Dark Grey, and tip color of white for bangs and tail.
Foxy Lady Hair - Artic Fox, Silver Fox, Wild Cheetah
Galactic Empress Styles - White1, White2 and White Root options
Goanna
Hua Short Hair - #09 (Light Silver Grey)
Goldtassel - Many of her hairs for PC+ come with only three hair colors, blonde, red, and brown and you have to buy an expansion package for additional colors.
Arion Braid - #16 (Light Silver), #17 (Grey)
BonBon Hair - #09 (Pale Blond), #25 (White with dark roots), #32 (Platinum)
Braided Hair - 3 colors only
Cafe Curls - Of the 12 colors, there are 4 blondes. No white or greys.
Cecilia Curls - #11 (Dark Grey to Light tips)
Coco Hair - 3 colors only
Devil May Hair - #17 (Silver Grey)
Dolly Hair - Materials #15 (Silver Grey), #27 (Silver Ombre), Shaders #10a (Platinum Blonde), #15, #27
Evony Hair - #13 (Silver), #14 (Platinum Blonde)
Fashion Bob - #07 (Platinum Blonde Ombre), #10 (Silver), #12 (Blue Grey)
French Twist Ponytail - #13 (Light Silver), #14 (Medium Silver)
GeeGee Hair - #12 (Dark Grey)
Greer Hair - #11 (Grey)
Happenstance Hair - #11 (Blue Grey to White), #12 (Dark Grey to Silver White)
Innocent Hair- 3 colors only
Jolie Beauty Shop and Jolie Hair Salon - #12 (White) These are two packages that built on each other. Best to look at the actual promos.
Summer Sidetail Hair - 3 colors only
Swizzle Bob - #13 (Silver), #14 (Ash Blonde or Pewter)
Vertigo Ponytail - #12 (Medium Grey)
Wicker Bob - 3 colors only
Wild Wind Hair - #09 (Silver to White), #10 (Grey to White)
Young Grace Hair - #13 (Silver Grey)
Hann Mei Short Hair - #5B (Platinum Blonde shiny), #6B (White shiny), #6 (White dull), #8 (Grey), #17 (Ash)
Helena Hair - #10 (White), #10M (Grey), #20D (Ash)
Historical Lady Hair - Grey, Greyling, White
HS Vivy Hair - #13 (White) hair has options that include darker to lighter options.
HY Ponytail LowBun Hair - #4 (Platinum Blonde)
HY Wavy Bob Hair - #7 (Silver) and a 'No Color' option
Mary
Second Group of Hair for the Morning:
Isidora Hair - Grey 01 (Dark), Grey 02 (Medium), Grey 03 (Light)
Itsy Hair - Grey 01 (Salt & Pepper), Grey 02 (Light), Grey 03 (Dark), Blonde 02 (Pale)
Jessie Hair - #13 (Grey White), #14 (Blue Grey White)
Jette Hair - White, Silver
Jocelyn Hair - Grey, White, Ash, XBlack & White
Julissa Hair - #12 (Dark to Grey) (This hair is named as 'Jezebel Hair' in the Scene pane.)
Jumbo Side Braids - Silver Full; if you purchase the character Akila from Handspan, additional hair colors are included for this hair and it has a full Grey color.
Kanade Hair - Silver, Grey
Karissa Hair - Grey, White, Ash, Black & White
Kinley Hair - This is a five step hair color system. Base colors of Ash Blonde and Grey and lighten options available.
Klareyn Short Hair - No white or silver hair.
KOOL
Allen Hair - #11 (White)
Alma Hair - #11 (White)
Alva Hair - #11 (White)
Anita Hair - #01 (White) (Same hair colors, just reorganized)
Annabelle Hair - #11 (White)
Bblythe Hair - #11 (White)
Bonnie Hair - #11 (White)
Cora Hair - #11 (White)
Vicky Hair - #11 (White)
Now to walk the dog and make some oatmeal cookies.
Mary
Afternoon entry, cookies done!
Lana Hair - Blonde2 (Ash), Blonde2 (Grey)
Lauren Hair - Blonde1 (Ash)
Layered Fringe Hair - Blonde4 (Grey)
Layla Hair - Grey, White, Ash
Liling Hair - #09 (Pale Blonde), #09 Grey (Pale Blonde Grey undertones), #11 (White Blonde, #11 Grey (White Blonde with Grey undertones) - All colors have a 'Grey Undertone' version
Lillian Hair - Platinum
Linday - All the hairs offered a huge range of selections.
dForce Bang Bob Hair - Ash Blonde, Pale Blonde, Silver Metallic, Grey (Medium Grey), Silver Woven Metallic
dForce Classic Curly Long Hair - Black09, Black10, Black11, Black12 (all shades of greys)
dForce Classic Long Hair - Ash Blonde (Pale Grey)
dForce Classic Long Wavy Hair - Black 08 (Silver Grey), Black 09 (White Grey), Blonde 01 (Ash), Blonde 03 (Platinum)
Short Wave Hair - SWH Light Blonde (Metallic Blonde), SWH Light Blonde2, SWH Silver (this hair creates a 'wet' look and the hair can look metallic to me, might not to you.)
Long Pigtails - White
Long Sakura Hair - White
Lori Hair - A 7-step color system; Base colors of Ash Blonde and Grey.
Louise Hair - Grey, White, Ash
Low Pigtail Hair - no white or grey or silver
Lucinda Hair - In scene pane is listed as SP Hair 003 - #07 (Ash)
Mary
I had a Folder of Materials for a hair just after Lucinda Hair. When I opened it, I found they were for Brynn Hair that came with the character and the materials were mislabelled, the Iray materials were identified as RSL and the 3Delight as MDL. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the package which did not help. I tracked down the hair's 'Brynn Hair.duf' file in the bottom of the Hair folder mixed in with the .dsa and .png files. This is a 3DUniverse hair. I loaded in from the Products and found it had one hair material that might fit our search. Customer Service report submitted. And Amy replied already, sent on to Bug Tracker!
Brynn Hair - Dirty Blonde (a light, streaky blonde)
I've used these as base settings for a long time. I should turn off Quality Settings? I'll give that a try. This new version of daz is much faster after nVidia update on the drivers. There are some additianl new parameters that I've not yet exploreed like "POST SSIM"
It's been years since I first got brave enough to turn Quality Enable off. With it on, the software tests for convergence frequently, and it appeared to favor light areas over dark. It would reach the Convergence Ratio and stop rendering. The light areas looked great, but the dark areas would still look noisy/grainy. Using the Architectural Sampler stopped that favoritism. But so did bypassing the whole Quality/Convergence code by disabling Quality. But again, that was years ago.
Iray has been evolving steadily, and I still keep the Quality disabled, so I have no idea how the Quality/Convergence results have changed over the years.
Sorry I haven't been online. We have a fire situation north of the barn and fortunately for the barn, it continues to move north. It went from 30 acres to 150 acres and only 40 percent contained. They do say the fire will not spread much overnight due to the humidity and the wind has gone down. The barn owner had already gone to a staycation at the beach, I couldn't reach her but I am in contact with the barn manager. She didn't know about the fire, but at the night check a few minutes ago, she said there's no smell of smoke and she can't see any orange glow. The fire department is sending most of their crew home for the evening, so apparently it isn't thought to be explosive in nature.
Anyway, I'm going to try and grab some sleep so I can get up in the middle of the night and see what the situation is, the barn manager is sleeping with her phone on. It should be okay since the concern is north. This is the photo I took while at the county landfill today. I was like, "What is that, and where is it headed? It's HUGE."
Yikes!
Hope everyone stays safe.
Thanks @tabascojack I'm headed back to the county landfill most of today, it's still free and I have several more loads to haul. Thing is, that fire was moving north, and it's south of the landfill, so..... gonna get going this morning. If it's still moving north, that's too close for comfort at the landfill because my photo was taken at 2pm and it got 60 acres bigger by 5pm. I can't find any updates on it, if I do, I'll let everyone know.
A few more old ones Iray updated.
Steam Bike Pro
2020-04-23 20:11:10.445 Total Rendering Time: 19.64 seconds
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2020-04-23 20:17:36.853 Total Rendering Time: 17.20 seconds
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Taoz-Thanks for the feedback. I've tried a couple of your free ones but they still have a lot of noise or compression (camera?) artifacts. Are there some better ones?
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This a response to Taoz questions (had to copy paste it was on diferent tread):
The ones from the HDRI beach super pack on foward are a little bit better, that includes the HDRI Tokyo Cityscapes the Green fields, and on foward.
However in terms of sharpeness and level of detail the ones form DimensionTheory are better I imagine the ones from Bob Callawah Cake One also, that is why they call it UltraHD, mines do not have that much quality in terms of photo definition per say.
What I can say is that in terms of light specially sunlight with hard shadows my HDRI´s mimics reality more closely I put a lot of efort on that, so still I prefer the light producced by my HDRI´s versus the DimensionTheory also I cannot say that for all DimensionTheory HDRI´s I only tried a few of the base ones. So if you really need a sharp image you sould go for DimensionTheory
In relation to file size more colors and deeper range higher size in the HDRI image, I wish it could go lower (it takes a lot of disk space and we have to store them in a diferent disk and bring them back when necessary) , but there is a considerable diference from a render from an 8K to a render from an 16K HDRI, sometimes it does not matter but other times it makes an huge diference, I made a lot of test with the Twisted Tower promo images, and specially if you have clouds and going for a realist image deep range with loots of colours matters a lot. That is why the ones that you guys say that have noise (which I agree) specialy the first ones some of them are my favorites because the noise brings a lot of colors that is why they are heavier images in size. And I didn´t make that on purpose I just noticed while testing it with the Twisted Towers. So I wont change those ones, still I might add 8K to those first packs if you all find it necessary.
That is it, hope you find this helpfull.
ps.Also if you need quick responses you have to PM me.