UltraScenery - new territory [Commercial]

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  • Doc AcmeDoc Acme Posts: 1,153

    barbult said:

    Doc Acme said:

    Dabbing my toe in the Alienator Pro waters

    I've had the product for awhile but just getting around to testing it out.  I'm a bit confused by the docs in not quite understanding the workflow logic I guess.  

    I've some sets created, but I'm unclear why Dropping is so important for example. Can you load a set & simply rename making a subset then edit by dropping?

    Anyway, wondering if any of you experienced users of it have some links or such that might 'splain working with it a bit clearer.

    Tnx

    There's a commercial thread for Alienator Pro. That is probably the best place to ask about it. 

     

    Ah.  OK.  Should be able to find that.

     

  • alexhcowleyalexhcowley Posts: 2,386

    Doc Acme said:

    barbult said:

    Doc Acme said:

    Dabbing my toe in the Alienator Pro waters

    I've had the product for awhile but just getting around to testing it out.  I'm a bit confused by the docs in not quite understanding the workflow logic I guess.  

    I've some sets created, but I'm unclear why Dropping is so important for example. Can you load a set & simply rename making a subset then edit by dropping?

    Anyway, wondering if any of you experienced users of it have some links or such that might 'splain working with it a bit clearer.

    Tnx

    There's a commercial thread for Alienator Pro. That is probably the best place to ask about it. 

     

    Ah.  OK.  Should be able to find that.

     

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/464181/released-alienator-pro-commercial/p1

    Cheers,

    Alex. 

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,119

    barbult said:

    So, I took on the challenge of making a "mountain" UltraScenery image inspired by Howie Farkes' masterpiece. It isn't up to his level of artistry, but I am pretty happy with it. I created a gradient terrain map to create a sloped UltraScenery terrain. I used a max altitude of 20. I selected PNW 4 ecology to get the yellow long grass. I used a layer mask on the fir trees to reduce the quantity to get more open space. I added a couple extra fir trees manually in the foreground and some rocks. It is lit with Sun-Sky. The background image is a photographI took on a trip to Yosemity NP, which I placed in the Daz Studio Environment tab. I did postwork in Luminar to replace the sky, add a little vignette and some toning.

    @mcorr, I hope this give you some ideas to create your own mountain image.

    @barbult 

    Not only a lovely render as always, but your instructions are clear and gratefully received by me. 

    Thank you for all your work adding in our knowledge of this and other products.

    Mary

  • FantastArtFantastArt Posts: 313
    barbult said:

    FantastArt said:

     

    Hello,

    - My Studio Version is 4.15.0.2. Pro.

    - It's not a beta version.

    - the version number is 1.3.3.1.

    - Accelerator is not listed in the menu, but it's shown in the library. see attached image

    - My system is: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor , 32 GB RAM, 64Bit, Windows 10 Home, NVIDIA GForce RTX 3060

    I have installed Daz Studio not on my C drive, may that cause the problem.

    Thank you very much for taking your time to help me!

    @Fantastart Everything looks normal, except for the plugin not being listed in the menu of installed plugins. The Accelerator.dsa file shown in the Content Library is the link to the user guide for it, so at least some of it installed for you.

     I do have my Daz Studio installed on the C drive, so that is a difference between our installations. For me, the plugin is installed in folder C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins and the file is named libUltraSceneryAccelerator.dll.

    • Can you find libUltraSceneryAccelerator.dll.on either C or the drive that you installed Daz Studio on? If so, is it in the same place as other Daz Studio plugins (there should be dozens of plugins, for example, you could search for dzprimitives.dll.)
    • In DIM, in the Advanced Settings, do you have the Installation and Applications tabs set correctly to install things on the correct drive and folders? I'm not sure which of those settings applies to plugins, but I'd guess it is the 64-bit Software Base address.
    I found the .dll file in my DAZ folder on my other harddrive and copied it on the C drive. Now it seems to work! Thank you so much for your help!
  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,245

    FantastArt said:

    barbult said:

    FantastArt said:

     

    Hello,

    - My Studio Version is 4.15.0.2. Pro.

    - It's not a beta version.

    - the version number is 1.3.3.1.

    - Accelerator is not listed in the menu, but it's shown in the library. see attached image

    - My system is: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor , 32 GB RAM, 64Bit, Windows 10 Home, NVIDIA GForce RTX 3060

    I have installed Daz Studio not on my C drive, may that cause the problem.

    Thank you very much for taking your time to help me!

    @Fantastart Everything looks normal, except for the plugin not being listed in the menu of installed plugins. The Accelerator.dsa file shown in the Content Library is the link to the user guide for it, so at least some of it installed for you.

     I do have my Daz Studio installed on the C drive, so that is a difference between our installations. For me, the plugin is installed in folder C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\plugins and the file is named libUltraSceneryAccelerator.dll.

    • Can you find libUltraSceneryAccelerator.dll.on either C or the drive that you installed Daz Studio on? If so, is it in the same place as other Daz Studio plugins (there should be dozens of plugins, for example, you could search for dzprimitives.dll.)
    • In DIM, in the Advanced Settings, do you have the Installation and Applications tabs set correctly to install things on the correct drive and folders? I'm not sure which of those settings applies to plugins, but I'd guess it is the 64-bit Software Base address.
    I found the .dll file in my DAZ folder on my other harddrive and copied it on the C drive. Now it seems to work! Thank you so much for your help!

    You are welcome. I want other people to enjoy UltraScenery as much as I do, so I help whenever I can.

  • Doc AcmeDoc Acme Posts: 1,153

    This'll be my experiment scene I think for learning Alienator Pro.

    But yikes, what an ordeal this setup turned out to be.  Not so much on the USC side, but working with an older LAMH figure.  They don't take to being much distance away from Zero for the fur/figure to sync it seems, nor is re-applying a fresh preset to a figure that already had one always reliable.  So, I used an unfurred figure parented to a Null to pose, saved out the pose, made a new scene & brought in a fresh figure with the LAMH Preset, applied the pose, genrated the fur, then parented those to the Figure, deleted the Preset items, then saved that out as a scene.  I then opened the main scene & performed a Merge with the freshly posed & furred Jaguar at the Origin.

    I wish they'd fix that issue with the Main scene's Enviroment settings getting changed to that of the incoming Merge scene.

    Anyway, I then parent that to the position null with In-Place off.  I can't do any reposing with the figure of course, just simple transforms with the null. But I won, this time.

    Where all this started was when I flipped to the current WWF (Wildlife, not Wrestling) June page and thought that'd be a great image to recreate, and I already have the parts.

     

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  • mcorrmcorr Posts: 1,091
    edited June 2021

    barbult said:

    So, I took on the challenge of making a "mountain" UltraScenery image inspired by Howie Farkes' masterpiece. It isn't up to his level of artistry, but I am pretty happy with it. I created a gradient terrain map to create a sloped UltraScenery terrain. I used a max altitude of 20. I selected PNW 4 ecology to get the yellow long grass. I used a layer mask on the fir trees to reduce the quantity to get more open space. I added a couple extra fir trees manually in the foreground and some rocks. It is lit with Sun-Sky. The background image is a photographI took on a trip to Yosemity NP, which I placed in the Daz Studio Environment tab. I did postwork in Luminar to replace the sky, add a little vignette and some toning.

    @mcorr, I hope this give you some ideas to create your own mountain image.

    A fine example of what I was wondering about! Thanks for the tutorial!! It gives me a great idea of how to do the workflow. Awesome!

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  • mcorrmcorr Posts: 1,091

    Doc Acme said:

    This'll be my experiment scene I think for learning Alienator Pro.

    But yikes, what an ordeal this setup turned out to be.  Not so much on the USC side, but working with an older LAMH figure.  They don't take to being much distance away from Zero for the fur/figure to sync it seems, nor is re-applying a fresh preset to a figure that already had one always reliable.  So, I used an unfurred figure parented to a Null to pose, saved out the pose, made a new scene & brought in a fresh figure with the LAMH Preset, applied the pose, genrated the fur, then parented those to the Figure, deleted the Preset items, then saved that out as a scene.  I then opened the main scene & performed a Merge with the freshly posed & furred Jaguar at the Origin.

    I wish they'd fix that issue with the Main scene's Enviroment settings getting changed to that of the incoming Merge scene.

    Anyway, I then parent that to the position null with In-Place off.  I can't do any reposing with the figure of course, just simple transforms with the null. But I won, this time.

    Where all this started was when I flipped to the current WWF (Wildlife, not Wrestling) June page and thought that'd be a great image to recreate, and I already have the parts.

    the smaller render is really fantastic!

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    edited June 2021

    Doc Acme said:

    This'll be my experiment scene I think for learning Alienator Pro.

    But yikes, what an ordeal this setup turned out to be.  Not so much on the USC side, but working with an older LAMH figure.  They don't take to being much distance away from Zero for the fur/figure to sync it seems, nor is re-applying a fresh preset to a figure that already had one always reliable.  So, I used an unfurred figure parented to a Null to pose, saved out the pose, made a new scene & brought in a fresh figure with the LAMH Preset, applied the pose, genrated the fur, then parented those to the Figure, deleted the Preset items, then saved that out as a scene.  I then opened the main scene & performed a Merge with the freshly posed & furred Jaguar at the Origin.

    I wish they'd fix that issue with the Main scene's Enviroment settings getting changed to that of the incoming Merge scene.

    Anyway, I then parent that to the position null with In-Place off.  I can't do any reposing with the figure of course, just simple transforms with the null. But I won, this time.

    Where all this started was when I flipped to the current WWF (Wildlife, not Wrestling) June page and thought that'd be a great image to recreate, and I already have the parts.

    I feel your pain, Doc.  I'm doing the same thing - refactoring an image I made several years ago that had half-a-zillion individual plants, some Big Cats and an intrepid explorer.  It just begs to be a real US Jungle.  And the cats need fur. I've just spent the entire day (so far) trying to get fur on just one of them.  Even saving a temp file takes forever...

    Post edited by sandmanmax on
  • Doc AcmeDoc Acme Posts: 1,153

    sandmanmax said:

    Doc Acme said:

    This'll be my experiment scene I think for learning Alienator Pro.

    But yikes, what an ordeal this setup turned out to be.  Not so much on the USC side, but working with an older LAMH figure.  They don't take to being much distance away from Zero for the fur/figure to sync it seems, nor is re-applying a fresh preset to a figure that already had one always reliable.  So, I used an unfurred figure parented to a Null to pose, saved out the pose, made a new scene & brought in a fresh figure with the LAMH Preset, applied the pose, genrated the fur, then parented those to the Figure, deleted the Preset items, then saved that out as a scene.  I then opened the main scene & performed a Merge with the freshly posed & furred Jaguar at the Origin.

    I wish they'd fix that issue with the Main scene's Enviroment settings getting changed to that of the incoming Merge scene.

    Anyway, I then parent that to the position null with In-Place off.  I can't do any reposing with the figure of course, just simple transforms with the null. But I won, this time.

    Where all this started was when I flipped to the current WWF (Wildlife, not Wrestling) June page and thought that'd be a great image to recreate, and I already have the parts.

    I feel your pain, Doc.  I'm doing the same thing - refactoring an image I made several years ago that had half-a-zillion individual plants, some Big Cats and an intrepid explorer.  It just begs to a real US Jungle in there.  And the cats need fur. I've just spent the entire day (so far) trying to get fur on just one of them.  Even saving a temp file takes forever...

    Making some inroads with Alienator Pro.  Trying to find suitable flora in my library.

    I got somewhat lucky on the Jaguar's placement. The time of day window where there's not major shadowing on a nice spot by the water with this thick forest is narrow.  Trying to sort out Pebbles from Rocks from Stones that you can't see w/o test renders is always fun though. 

    What's the fur issue?

     

  • Jason GalterioJason Galterio Posts: 2,562
    edited June 2021

    Here is my project for today. I wanted to see how hard I could push the scene. I wanted to see if I could achieve a wide open landscape look. To break away from the "small world" I generally end up with in my renders.

    There are two UltraScenery terrains, one is used twice, the other is used three times. There are a half a dozen imported OBJs (the city in the horizon), one Dragon 3, two Spiked Dragons, Torment 8.1, half of the Rage Armor and half of the Elven Royal Armor.

    It just barely fit in the memory of my two video cards.

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  • smaker1smaker1 Posts: 281

    Hello

    Pacific Northewest is an amazing product to do really dense forest and, at last, I found a more or less easy workflow to render in Octane stand alone with my old 680 GTX . It worked smoothly even with the use of extend forest.

    Thousand thanks Howie for these amazing products.

    An old oak gnarly trees forest "The Lord of the Ring" style would be great :-) !

    Here is a fresh render still not sure about the postwork 

     

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  • Jason GalterioJason Galterio Posts: 2,562

    smaker1 said:

    Hello

    Pacific Northewest is an amazing product to do really dense forest and, at last, I found a more or less easy workflow to render in Octane stand alone with my old 680 GTX . It worked smoothly even with the use of extend forest.

    Thousand thanks Howie for these amazing products.

    An old oak gnarly trees forest "The Lord of the Ring" style would be great :-) !

    Here is a fresh render still not sure about the postwork 

     

     

    Very nice. Not sure what your concern is over the post work, the detail looks great for a fantasy setting. The subdued pixie dust and fog really work well too. The duller background colors really give the impression of a dense, deep forest.

    The only area of improvement I see is the colors on the rider and horse. The single ghost texture seems to lose a little impact, the details get lost in the single tone... Try rendering a second time with a traditional shader on them, then layer it over the ghost image. Using a transparency layer, plus some judicious eraser work you can give the figure more definition without losing the over all ghost effect.

    Setting the transparency to a barely visible 10% can give just enough definition to make it more ethereal / spooky.

  • smaker1smaker1 Posts: 281

    Thanks Jason!

    and very good idea! I redid 3 times my "ghost effect" and not completely satisfied. You nailed it ! I will definitively try your solution. That's typically the kind of feedback I'm waiting to try to improve :-)

    Thanks again

  • Jason GalterioJason Galterio Posts: 2,562

    smaker1 said:

    Thanks Jason!

    and very good idea! I redid 3 times my "ghost effect" and not completely satisfied. You nailed it ! I will definitively try your solution. That's typically the kind of feedback I'm waiting to try to improve :-)

    Thanks again

    You're welcome and I am glad that it helped. I was dancing around the words; I didn't want it to be read with an intention that I didn't mean.  Honestly, the image you got is pretty impressive all on its own.

    The compositing trick is something I do with almost every image. I always feel like one pass will never give the depth of colors / detail that I am looking for.

    Another trick you can do is to turn on the Canvas settings and have DS generate a Beauty canvas and a Distance canvas. These will produce a pair of EXR files along with your standard JPG / BMP / TIF.

    Most image editing programs will allow you to "develop" the EXR file as if you took the photo with multiple settings. You can use those as the modification layers in your post processing. I did this in my last image to create the fire on the horizon effect of my last image. You can use the "lasso" selection tool, with a very fuzzy / feathered edge, to delete out the areas you don't want the effect to appear. This will give you a fairly smooth transition from one layer to the other.

    The Distance EXR is very useful for creating a Depth of Field effect without trying to get the effect to work in DS. I stopped using the DS DoF only because of how painful it is to render and then see that the effect is not what I was looking for. Doing it in post processing allows you to make mistakes and experiment without having to re-render.

  • smaker1smaker1 Posts: 281

    Don't worry : positive criticism is always good !

    One advantage in Octane is that depth of field doesn't cost much more in term of render time. I must said that the number of renderpass that Octane can generate is impressive (60 approx ) but I don't know what's the purpose or "how to use" for most of them :-) ! 

    So I'm always trying to get the best results in the renderer as I my postwork knowledge is pretty basic. May be not always the best strategy! 

  • Jason GalterioJason Galterio Posts: 2,562

    smaker1 said:

    Don't worry : positive criticism is always good !

    One advantage in Octane is that depth of field doesn't cost much more in term of render time. I must said that the number of renderpass that Octane can generate is impressive (60 approx ) but I don't know what's the purpose or "how to use" for most of them :-) ! 

    So I'm always trying to get the best results in the renderer as I my postwork knowledge is pretty basic. May be not always the best strategy! 

    Ah, I don't use Octane. I experimented with it years ago and didn't have a good experience. Most of the things I had issues with have been resolved now, but once burned...

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    edited June 2021

    Doc Acme said:

    sandmanmax said:

    Doc Acme said:

    This'll be my experiment scene I think for learning Alienator Pro.

    But yikes, what an ordeal this setup turned out to be.  Not so much on the USC side, but working with an older LAMH figure.  They don't take to being much distance away from Zero for the fur/figure to sync it seems, nor is re-applying a fresh preset to a figure that already had one always reliable.  So, I used an unfurred figure parented to a Null to pose, saved out the pose, made a new scene & brought in a fresh figure with the LAMH Preset, applied the pose, genrated the fur, then parented those to the Figure, deleted the Preset items, then saved that out as a scene.  I then opened the main scene & performed a Merge with the freshly posed & furred Jaguar at the Origin.

    I wish they'd fix that issue with the Main scene's Enviroment settings getting changed to that of the incoming Merge scene.

    Anyway, I then parent that to the position null with In-Place off.  I can't do any reposing with the figure of course, just simple transforms with the null. But I won, this time.

    Where all this started was when I flipped to the current WWF (Wildlife, not Wrestling) June page and thought that'd be a great image to recreate, and I already have the parts.

    I feel your pain, Doc.  I'm doing the same thing - refactoring an image I made several years ago that had half-a-zillion individual plants, some Big Cats and an intrepid explorer.  It just begs to a real US Jungle in there.  And the cats need fur. I've just spent the entire day (so far) trying to get fur on just one of them.  Even saving a temp file takes forever...

    Making some inroads with Alienator Pro.  Trying to find suitable flora in my library.

    I got somewhat lucky on the Jaguar's placement. The time of day window where there's not major shadowing on a nice spot by the water with this thick forest is narrow.  Trying to sort out Pebbles from Rocks from Stones that you can't see w/o test renders is always fun though. 

    What's the fur issue?

    I have this crazy idea that the cats need LAMH fur.  But I'm using a non-DAZ big cat that doesn't use the LAMH Iray Catalyzer, so I have to do the pose, generate fur, figure out how many hairs my pc can handle before it crashes, export to OBJ, test render, rinse, repeat.  That part alone is as much fun as test renders with US.  And I'm not sure my poor old pc is going to handle 3 cats with fur and a US jungle anyway.  I may have to settle for photoshop fur.  But I'm plowing ahead and learning a lot about how to create a custom terrain.

    If you run into non-compliant plants that you want to use with Alienator Pro, I did figure out some shortcuts for converting poser content, old .daz files, figures, and groups into plants that work.

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  • smaker1smaker1 Posts: 281

    Jason Galterio said:

    smaker1 said:

    Don't worry : positive criticism is always good !

    One advantage in Octane is that depth of field doesn't cost much more in term of render time. I must said that the number of renderpass that Octane can generate is impressive (60 approx ) but I don't know what's the purpose or "how to use" for most of them :-) ! 

    So I'm always trying to get the best results in the renderer as I my postwork knowledge is pretty basic. May be not always the best strategy! 

    Ah, I don't use Octane. I experimented with it years ago and didn't have a good experience. Most of the things I had issues with have been resolved now, but once burned...

    I use Octane since version 1 and yes the first version was difficult to use. In term of performance it fulfill my needs: final render 6000x4200 on my GTX680 4GB: 2 hours and I didn't optimize the Ultrascene generated scene, added fog , vdb files, ... Now I'm stucked because my graphic card is too old and not suppported anymore with the last version. Must plan for some hardware upgrade but not the best period to buy a new graphic card.  .

    New version with more contrast and my Valkyrie upgraded with more color following your advice. I prefer this one !  

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  • FantastArtFantastArt Posts: 313
    Hello, does anybody have problems with the heather and moorland? It takes a long time to start the render for me.
  • Doc AcmeDoc Acme Posts: 1,153

    sandmanmax said:

    Doc Acme said:

     

    What's the fur issue?

    I have this crazy idea that the cats need LAMH fur.  But I'm using a non-DAZ big cat that doesn't use the LAMH Iray Catalyzer, so I have to do the pose, generate fur, figure out how many hairs my pc can handle before it crashes, export to OBJ, test render, rinse, repeat.  That part alone is as much fun as test renders with US.  And I'm not sure my poor old pc is going to handle 3 cats with fur and a US jungle anyway.  I may have to settle for photoshop fur.  But I'm plowing ahead and learning a lot about how to create a custom terrain.

    If you run into non-compliant plants that you want to use with Alienator Pro, I did figure out some shortcuts for converting poser content, old .daz files, figures, and groups into plants that work.


    Unless you've a Sphinx, ya cats pretty much need fur. So basically what I'm having to do as well.

    At the moment, I'm just trying to find suitable water's edge type plants & not having much luck. I might try bamboo later on todeay. Painted a mask to tone down the water edge pebbles.  Swapped out a couple things with Alienator, but will most likely use Ultra Scatter & masks to fine tune things.

     

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992

    FantastArt said:

    Hello, does anybody have problems with the heather and moorland? It takes a long time to start the render for me.

    Yeah, it seems to be a bit slow.  But I've got a older system and I'm still on a GTX 970 with 4gb so I'm not sure I'm a good test.  The last render I did with Heather & Moorland took 2 1/2 hrs (left it to run overnight).

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,245

    sandmanmax said:

    FantastArt said:

    Hello, does anybody have problems with the heather and moorland? It takes a long time to start the render for me.

    Yeah, it seems to be a bit slow.  But I've got a older system and I'm still on a GTX 970 with 4gb so I'm not sure I'm a good test.  The last render I did with Heather & Moorland took 2 1/2 hrs (left it to run overnight).

    The Martin J Frost plants in the Heather and Moorland are not very optimum for UltraScenery, in my opinion. The heather plants use displacement, which I think is a complete waste in a large landscape like UltraScenery. Because the plants are at base resolution, I can't even see that displacement is even visible in an Iray render of those plants. The Wasteland plants are pretty dense mesh (lots of polygons). All this stuff is slow to render. I wouldn't be surprised if it took 10 minutes before any visible render progress showed up. 

  • mcorrmcorr Posts: 1,091

    I am pretty sure I read something about one of the modules having fish. Doesanybody know which one I have to buy to get those props?

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,119
  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,245

    Yes, Country Ford is the one. You need the required product https://www.daz3d.com/country-ford-for-daz-studio-and-carrara, which has the actual fish prop that UltraScenery scatters instances of.

  • blosseblosse Posts: 46

    barbult said:

    So, I tried a picnic scene. I ended up modifying my technique a bit. I made the layer mask a little larger than the actual picnic blanket, because at actual size, I was still getting some grass pokethrough at the edges. The grass clumps are rectangles of grass blades, so the ones adjacent ot the blanket would still overhang into it. After generating the UltraScene with the mask, I came back and manually added some extra grass clumps near the edge of the blanket to fill in the blank spaces in a way I could control.

    Picnic Under the Oaks

    Picnic under the oaks

    I see your pictures often use masks.

    How do you create the mask so that it will be where you want it in the picture?

    What steps and software do you take to make the mask?

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,688
    edited June 2021

    On my image here: 

    I made a vegetation mask for the trees and a second one for the grass so the obalisk went on bare ground. They were made using PaintShopPro 5.0 which I got on a CD on a magaze in 2002 or thereabouts. You could, in extremis, use something like Windows Paint. Masks can be very simple. The ones for the image above were simple black rectangles on white backgrounds.

    I calculated the size of the ground (6400cm square) and then did a monochrome map 3200 pixels square, so each pixel was 2cm square. Then as I wanted the obalisk offset X1000cm and was 200cm square, it was possible to work out the position of the corners of the mask squares.

    I actually put the obalisk in slightly the wrong position, meaning I got vegetation inside it, which made for much more interesting reflections inside the obalisk once the raytrace path length was dialled up to 9.

    Regards,

    Richard.

     

     

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  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992

    barbult said:

    sandmanmax said:

    FantastArt said:

    Hello, does anybody have problems with the heather and moorland? It takes a long time to start the render for me.

    Yeah, it seems to be a bit slow.  But I've got a older system and I'm still on a GTX 970 with 4gb so I'm not sure I'm a good test.  The last render I did with Heather & Moorland took 2 1/2 hrs (left it to run overnight).

    The Martin J Frost plants in the Heather and Moorland are not very optimum for UltraScenery, in my opinion. The heather plants use displacement, which I think is a complete waste in a large landscape like UltraScenery. Because the plants are at base resolution, I can't even see that displacement is even visible in an Iray render of those plants. The Wasteland plants are pretty dense mesh (lots of polygons). All this stuff is slow to render. I wouldn't be surprised if it took 10 minutes before any visible render progress showed up. 

    I've gotten to the point that anytime I'm including alternate plants in US, I load then up before I start and take a look at their materials.  I usually remove things like bump and displacement maps, possibly even specular if they're really huge maps, make sure they aren't grouped or have "bones" in them.  Then save them back to my content folder as Low-Res.  It's kind of a nuisance but it's only once and then I never have to worry about it again. I can always add single plants back in for close-ups, if they're needed.

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,762

    sandmanmax said:

    I've been obsessed with trying to include the Albert Mansion in an UltraScene and finally got it to play nice with the Wasteland.  It's the Wetland 2 feature with the boardwalk removed and replaced with the AM wrecked one.  The ecology is Wasteland 3, Water is Brackish Pond.  All plants are included.  The trees and shrubs are all from the AM set, but repositioned a bit. The whole set was moved back so the US is the front "flood".  Sky is Orestes Cloudy-Brooding 2 with one of the Dimension Theory's Skies of Economy matte fog settings (light blue/white).  I cleaned up all the cult graffiti and ditched the skulls and stuff so it's just a nice, old abandonned house.

     That's a spectacular image,  all it needs is a few kids on the boardwalk getting ready to do some exploration. 

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