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My remark was too short, it seems., so my intention got lost.
I did not want to say that Epic bought DAZ, but their marketing team could have influenced DAZ, as Epic Games is known for s#t like this.
It's not pay to win, it's really nothing at all. It's not like the contests are going to end before regular non-flaired plebians can enter. It's literally worth nothing to anyone as a "feature".
It's actually one of the things that hooked me about Daz. I get attached to 3D models like I do to my MMO characters, and this is the only community I've seen where that's a normal, understandable thing. I'm not really a collector, but I've picked up characters just to play with them rather than specifically for render projects.
It gives Season Pass holders one extra day to work with the new content — which is also like getting an extra day to enter the contest.
It's not much, but it is a "feature".
With the Daz boxes, you might get the equivalent of fast food, tofu or hay.
All of us are collectors, some may even be hoarders... whether we're conscious of it or not.
I definitely like the Season Pass concept — having access to as many base figures with HD details as possible is important to me. I've hardly ever used a base figure "as is" in any render, and I'm a dial spinner since Poser 1.0 in the 90's — always looking for something unique to add into the latest 3D character gene pool, and always trying to come up with something that doesn't look like the default, off-the-shelf, "stock" character.
At the end of the day, if it looks obvious that I used Victoria or Michael out-of-the-box without customizing them or adding any kind of value to them, I will feel like I've failed to create something new or unique from those resources.
Pass.
I'll see how the first one plays out.
But this kind of offer has a 0,0.....01% chance to interest me.
I don't buy unknown things for this much.
So I'm not someone who is targeted by this mystery sale.
But good luck with it.
ps: Somehow reddit vs fanatical's mystery game bundles... comes to my mind from this kind of sale/advertisement.
Ah... Thanks - I see the parallels: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community-supported_agriculture
My question is, should I be able to use my $20 coupon I received when I purchased the Draper Fluid Bundle with this? There’s no stipulations that you can’t, but it hasn’t work when I tried to use it.
Jason
disappearing icons are a store issue, not a DS issue. As for crashing, there's always the beta to test while leaving your older version alone (assuming it is a general release).
Exprssions are the issue, though some people choose to work around that.
There are very few, as long as you are using DS 4.15.x.x - as I said, essentially expressions and some materials that rely on the existing surface names (sicne the group covering the body and back of the head has been split in two).
This is actually a pretty good analogy. Oddly, I'm a big fan of the first type of CSA (although maybe we have enough Jerusalem artichokes now, mmmkay?), but I'm not really that tempted by the Season Pass.
Of course with a CSA, you're expected to show up at 8:00AM to help unload the truck from time to time. I'm not sure what the equivalent would be in DAZ terms, but I'm sure DAZ will let us know ...
It doesn't seem to be set to behave like a Daz Original, so no the coupon won't work (nor, as far as I know, will the regular PC coupons).
Well, we show up each day "helping" to find issues with the discounts in the store.
It never states anywhere that the coupon is limited to Daz Originals, so why is it relevant if it behaves like a DO or not?
Right??
I'm still checking the thread to see if Daz_Jessica or another mod answers my question about the availability of the recorded webinar for all season pass tiers or give more information about the season pass, but so far just 3 (probably 4 by the time I finish writing this) more pages of mostly the same grief and tin foil hat theories, reinforcing why I don't care about the forum flair, heh. Do I think Daz is perfect? Heck no! But the way they talk here it's like they outright hate them. I mean, they latch on everything they (Daz people) do and say to complain (like Jessica using "forumites", geez). Either that or people being extremely entitled. I know I'm going to get again the line about "we...paying customer...right to complain", but having a lot of experience on customer service I know there is a line between expecting good customer support and entitlement. Some people just think they own your soul because they gave you money for a product.
As most sensible people here point out repeatedly.... Speak.With.Your. Wallet. Beyond the fact of giving them money or not, it is actual, useful data that helps shaping future releases and promotions. And if they still don't change... well... bad luck, you just found out most paying customers don't agree with you. They don't hate male characters or the genre you love, it just doesn't sell as well. I would love if we'd get a lot more anime style giant robots but I know it's not going to happen *shrugs*
...and (wait for it as I open up a can of worms here) more skimp and otherwise sexy wear.
...and, how many more Japanese schoolgirl unifroms do we really need?
As an adult creator, I can tell you that most of DAZ's so-called "more skimp and otherwise sexy wear" is totally useless for people like us, as they all lack proper undress morphs. If we want to buy skimpy and sexy stuff, we find it elsewhere.
I used the $145 that I COULD have spent for this, and instead used that to order a new 2TB SSD for my laptop. And the best thing about it... I know exactly what I purchased and there is no gambling that I may or may noit like it. Although I miss out on the fancy little 'season pass' forum flair.that doesn't show up in firefox anyway!
Hmm, my recollection of the original promo page was that it ddi say Daz originals, I hadn't noticed that the actual message doesn't. I've asked about that, and about using it on the Season Pass.
LMAO!!! Get that Squirrel!!!!
Well, de promo did not say anything on restrictions at all. I remember, because I asked about that.
A $20 Coupon Just for You
Because you bought the August 8.1 Dapper Fluid Bundle the day it was released, enjoy a $20 coupon with code 20-4-FREE.
Coupon valid for intended recipients only. Expires April 20th and excludes Gift Cards.
Nowhere do I remember it saying DO content only ... (And it doesn't like Fast Grab either ...)
(Edit) Just tested, will do some non-DO and seems okay with PC+.
Yes, you are right. The coupon excludes only Gift cards, and I am told it should now be working for the Season Pass.
Which is EXACTLY what I usually buy so obviously they are selling that stuff and hopefully will continue to or they will lose me as a customer. I actually wish they had more variety of lingerie and more creative “skimpware.” And I rarely use male characters but I do like cute pixie toon fairy stuff so I guess I’m a cliche Daz customer lol. We do exist.
..I remember the old television programme Let's Make A Deal I used to watch when I was a kid in the 60s.
In the programme members of the studio audience would dress up in outlandish costumes and vie for the attention of the host Monty Hall. He would select one or more people to play some sort of little contest where they could win money or prizes (often handing them a 50$ or 100$ bill for what they were wearing or holding as a teaser) and then have them play.
So imagine you are standing there with 500$ in your hand that you just won from his "Monty's Wallet" game, but before you sit down he makes an offer to you to give him the money back for whatever is behind the curtain the "lovely Carol Merrill" is standing in front of. Now you could just go home 500$ richer than when to entered the studio (not an insignificant amount of money in those days) or trade it for what's behind that curtain. It could be a new car, a vacation in Hawai'i, a full living room ensemble with television and stereo, or it could be a "zonk". (which was usually some sort of silly joke item). If it was the latter you wouldn't leave empty handed as you'd still get some "lovely" parting gifts for being selected from the programme's sponsors.
That is sort of how this feels, save for the fact the money you exchange for whatever's behind the "curtain" comes out of your own wallet, not Mr. Hall's.
I agree with many of the comments, and so with trepidation I have rolled the dice. Please Daz gods, please make this so good that the next season's pass becomes an insta-buy. Right now, the expression sliders in the attached image tell the story.
You make a good point, and it would make sense if they did that. But this is Daz.
From what I read from the season pass information page, the holder of the season pass will receive an additional cash prize beside the normal one for non-season pass holder? Or maybe i'm wrong, since it is confusing for me.
"The winning render from a Season Pass holder will receive Champion Forum Flair, a $100 store credit, and their render put on our Season Pass landing page"
How about the prize for Non-holders if they win?
That show is still on. It was revived six years ago and is now hosted by Wayne Brady. I got to meet Monty Hall once: he'd invested in a chain of discount malls and would come to the mall openings and play LMAD live in the main concourses. Unfortunately, the Deauxville Malls weren't a good deal for Monty and they all lost money like a sieve... which is probably why he had to keep hosting the show for 30 years.