The I Miss the Old Days Complaint Thread

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050

    Me searching for virtually anything using Google: "Ink bottle size for epson ecotank printer" 

    Google: "Ecologically friendly tanks"... "3D print any size bottle"... "My little pony"... "The history of ink"... 

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050

    Blando Calrissian said:

    Every so often I will encounter a grocery store that doesn't bother to put the little pricing code stickers on their produce and it always baffles me, because in every case people get to the self-checkout and they have to call over a cashier to enter the codes. Seems like it would be a lot more efficient to do the former than the latter. Whole Foods seems to be the worst offender- perhaps they have decided that the stickers are too wasteful/litter-y, or some ambitious junior executive saw a quick way to shave pennies and boost the quarterly numbers...

    That would be a good store in my area... it's like ever shelf at every store in this area was stocked by intellectually challenged, nearsighted otters... nothing is every where it belongs and when it is, the price is wrong... the most common annoyance is stuff that's similarly packaged... the solution seems to be to mix the items around... some here, some there... I guess the theory being that statistically some will be in the right spot... as opposed to getting it all wrong... theoretically.

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited March 2023

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Rezca said:

    So this is a first.  "Update" is the only option available for a file.  I can't load it in any way or form until it updates,  and I have to do so in the content list by right clicking since trying to do it in the Smart Content tab just opens up the Manual page for it.  So after a almost five or six minutes of "Obtaining data from DAZ Connect..."  it finishes, only to tell me I still need to update the file before I can use it.   Giving up trying to do so withing D|S I just go to the Install Manager and tell it to install the product.  Back in Studio,  it's still insisting I need to update it,  but at least I can load the file into the scene.

     

    Also,  can D|S work with multiple viewports?

    That happens when some or all of the files fail to decrypt, please report it to Daz. I can't see which product it is to test on my end, should I have a copy.

    Its this one:  https://www.daz3d.com/sting-ray

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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,742

    Calliope23 said:

    kyoto kid said:

    Calliope23 said:

    @kyoto kid  I thought this dress looked like it might suit your pre-teen characters. It's in the lingerie sale, although I have no idea why. It doesn't look like lingerie to me:

    https://www.daz3d.com/sweet-boho-dforce-outfit-for-genesis-8-and-81-females

    I saw your render above and thought the dress would look pretty on her.

     

    ....interesting, Usually here when I see the word "Lingerie" it means skimpy see through clothing.  That is actually nice and has a number of different textures included..  Thanks for the reference.

    You're welcome. smiley

    Absolute howling complaint: Oh G-d, now it's happened to me, too ... I've read about people here getting interested in items someone linked for some reason, only to find out that they've bought that very item in about 2005 and have never ever used it since. This sweet little dress is that item for me. I'm doomed, I fear. Maybe if I can make myself render 10 renders over the next weekend, I could still save myself? But where's that bloody make-art button gone again ...

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,753

    Rezca said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Rezca said:

    So this is a first.  "Update" is the only option available for a file.  I can't load it in any way or form until it updates,  and I have to do so in the content list by right clicking since trying to do it in the Smart Content tab just opens up the Manual page for it.  So after a almost five or six minutes of "Obtaining data from DAZ Connect..."  it finishes, only to tell me I still need to update the file before I can use it.   Giving up trying to do so withing D|S I just go to the Install Manager and tell it to install the product.  Back in Studio,  it's still insisting I need to update it,  but at least I can load the file into the scene.

     

    Also,  can D|S work with multiple viewports?

    That happens when some or all of the files fail to decrypt, please report it to Daz. I can't see which product it is to test on my end, should I have a copy.

    Its this one:  https://www.daz3d.com/sting-ray

    Yes, that seems to have an issue - it's still processing, very slowly (which is a bad sign itself) but as half-way it has no user-facing files.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    McGyver said:

    Me searching for virtually anything using Google: "Ink bottle size for epson ecotank printer" 

    Google: "Ecologically friendly tanks"... "3D print any size bottle"... "My little pony"... "The history of ink"... 

    laugh   laugh  laugh  laugh  laugh  

    Dana

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,504
    edited March 2023

    McGyver said:

    Me searching for virtually anything using Google: "Ink bottle size for epson ecotank printer" 

    Google: "Ecologically friendly tanks"... "3D print any size bottle"... "My little pony"... "The history of ink"... 

    Is BING any better?  They've been shouting "we got AI", for weeks.indecision  Just how artificial IS their intelligence?devil

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  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 3,982

    LeatherGryphon said:

    Non-complaint:  Yay, a mini-adventure uptown today. yes Took the bus (which came right to my door.  Wheee...) to do laundry.  Had breakfast at Burger King.  Took care of prescriptions & necessities at the CVS drug store.  Then took an UBER to the BigLots store, farther uptown, to shop for a new recliner chair.  Unfortunately, the local BigLots had "SmallLots" of recliner chairs on display.  And BigLots wanted $150 to deliver, even if I'd bought it at the store.  So that idea fizzled out.frown  Took an UBER back to home and ordered a chair from Amazon.  No delivery fee (Yay Amazon Prime), and I got a $40 off coupon.smiley  So, many things accomplished today.  It's a good day.  Wheee...yes

     

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BSTVGMDP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

       Yeah, yeah, it's a cheap chair, but it will probably last the rest of my life if I don't gain a hundred pounds or abuse it.  

    One of the advantages of being old.  You 're not worried about 20 year guarantees.enlightened

    Umm not trying to be a killjoy here but ......LG how's your leg strength? Did ya notice the "pull handle to release foot rest" thing ? I bought one of those and you have to use the strength of your legs/abdomen to close them ,the one I bought damn near gave me a rupture!!I ended up giving it to my son in law . Plus it looks like you get to put it together yourself .........feel free t tell me to get my nose out of your business .

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    carrie58 said:

    LeatherGryphon said:

    Non-complaint:  Yay, a mini-adventure uptown today. yes Took the bus (which came right to my door.  Wheee...) to do laundry.  Had breakfast at Burger King.  Took care of prescriptions & necessities at the CVS drug store.  Then took an UBER to the BigLots store, farther uptown, to shop for a new recliner chair.  Unfortunately, the local BigLots had "SmallLots" of recliner chairs on display.  And BigLots wanted $150 to deliver, even if I'd bought it at the store.  So that idea fizzled out.frown  Took an UBER back to home and ordered a chair from Amazon.  No delivery fee (Yay Amazon Prime), and I got a $40 off coupon.smiley  So, many things accomplished today.  It's a good day.  Wheee...yes

     

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BSTVGMDP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

       Yeah, yeah, it's a cheap chair, but it will probably last the rest of my life if I don't gain a hundred pounds or abuse it.  

    One of the advantages of being old.  You 're not worried about 20 year guarantees.enlightened

    Umm not trying to be a killjoy here but ......LG how's your leg strength? Did ya notice the "pull handle to release foot rest" thing ? I bought one of those and you have to use the strength of your legs/abdomen to close them ,the one I bought damn near gave me a rupture!!I ended up giving it to my son in law . Plus it looks like you get to put it together yourself .........feel free t tell me to get my nose out of your business .

    surprise 

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,504
    edited March 2023

    @ Carrie58   Thanks for the heads up.  Well, I don't know about that specific model, but I tried a few similar to that in the BigLots store.  In fact, the first one I tried was like that and it confused me for a moment because my current chair requires that I lift my legs a bit to free the mechanism so that you can use your hand to lift the control handle  to lower the leg extension.  So, there I was in the store all reclined back and flopping like a fish on a slab trying to lift the $@#%@# handle, until someone suggested that I stop lifting my legs and push down on the leg extension with my shins.  Bingo... it was magic!  I'm free, I'm free.laugh  Once armed with this bit of knowlege I mastered the rest of the chairs in good order.  I may be old but my legs still work until I stand on them too long.  Horizontally, they work fine.smiley

    Let's just hope that this interesting looking chair from Amazon, with the cool side pockets and vibrations and heaters and cheap upholstery works at least as well as the cheap chairs I tried in BigLots.yes  And I'm not afraid to assemble a chair.  Yet.indecision

     

    I've been considering renting a car someday for a trip to some medium distance (100-200 miles) event.  However, given my experience driving an unfamiliar recliner chair, I'm not sure I could handle a modern automobile with electronic keys, start buttons, and other "improvements".  The last car I drove was a 2003 Buick LeSabre that I sold in 2019.surprise

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  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 1,806

    McGyver said:

    Me searching for virtually anything using Google: "Ink bottle size for epson ecotank printer" 

    Google: "Ecologically friendly tanks"... "3D print any size bottle"... "My little pony"... "The history of ink"... 

    Me trying to DALL-E some eco friendly tanks:

    Tank Covered with Flowers 

    Tank Covered with Flowers

  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 1,806

    LeatherGryphon said:

    I've been considering renting a car someday for a trip to some medium distance (100-200 miles) event.  However, given my experience driving an unfamiliar recliner chair, I'm not sure I could handle a modern automobile with electronic keys, start buttons, and other "improvements".  The last car I drove was a 2003 Buick LeSabre that I sold in 2019.surprise

    Well I got my first actually new car ever, a 2023 model. And my experience with this car has been, if you can get past that part where you don't actually use a key to start it, everything else gets easier. It stays in its lane on its own much of the time. It tends to make a big fuss if it thinks you're going to hit something, and will probably ultimately stop on its own if its sure you'll hit the object, in front of you or behind you. Even the lights turn on and off on their own. Most of the other challenges probably won't be a big deal if you're only keeping it for a short time. Like how you actually have to find a place to put your keychain since you can't leave it in the ignition. And then you have to remember where you put it. And you might have to log in on your car. Probably the biggest issue will be when you and the car disagree about where the exact center of the lane is. And if you get a Tesla, whatever you do, don't jam a grapefruit into your steering wheel. It's obviously bedtime for me.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036

    NylonGirl said:

    McGyver said:

    Me searching for virtually anything using Google: "Ink bottle size for epson ecotank printer" 

    Google: "Ecologically friendly tanks"... "3D print any size bottle"... "My little pony"... "The history of ink"... 

    Me trying to DALL-E some eco friendly tanks:

    Tank Covered with Flowers 

    Tank Covered with Flowers

    ...prettier than the tank we made out of empty beer cans for our senior class homecoming float in high school (though the "emptying phase" was enjoyable). 

    ...oh, and we painted all the cans before building the float.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,504
    edited March 2023

    Non-complaint:  Well, it's winter again!indecision  This year has felt more like Washington, DC weather intstead of Buffalo weather.  Yesterday it was chilly, but the ground was snowless and muddy.  Today it's this:

    Complaint:  No brown bunnies, dancing deer, frisky fox, or bumbling bear, not even a dirty dog, but I'm sure if I watch long enough one will appear.yes  Groundhogs are still sleeping.

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  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 3,982

    LeatherGryphon said:

    @ Carrie58   Thanks for the heads up.  Well, I don't know about that specific model, but I tried a few similar to that in the BigLots store.  In fact, the first one I tried was like that and it confused me for a moment because my current chair requires that I lift my legs a bit to free the mechanism so that you can use your hand to lift the control handle  to lower the leg extension.  So, there I was in the store all reclined back and flopping like a fish on a slab trying to lift the $@#%@# handle, until someone suggested that I stop lifting my legs and push down on the leg extension with my shins.  Bingo... it was magic!  I'm free, I'm free.laugh  Once armed with this bit of knowlege I mastered the rest of the chairs in good order.  I may be old but my legs still work until I stand on them too long.  Horizontally, they work fine.smiley

    Let's just hope that this interesting looking chair from Amazon, with the cool side pockets and vibrations and heaters and cheap upholstery works at least as well as the cheap chairs I tried in BigLots.yes  And I'm not afraid to assemble a chair.  Yet.indecision

     

    I've been considering renting a car someday for a trip to some medium distance (100-200 miles) event.  However, given my experience driving an unfamiliar recliner chair, I'm not sure I could handle a modern automobile with electronic keys, start buttons, and other "improvements".  The last car I drove was a 2003 Buick LeSabre that I sold in 2019.surprise

    Okay good to hear ,none of the sales people helped when I got mine and when I called backed to complain  I was told "All sales final" ugh!!  oh Not all rentals are state of the art ......

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,504
    edited March 2023

    I'm still a little concerned that I might rent a modern car that listens to what I'm saying, and if some momentarily frightening situation transpires, the car might drive me to the nearest Fuddruckers.frown

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  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 3,982

    LeatherGryphon said:

    I'm still a little concerned that I might rent a modern car that listens to what I'm saying, and if some momentarily frightening situation transpires, the car might drive me to the nearest Fuddruckers.frown

    LOL would that really be such a bad thing?

  • beregarberegar Posts: 269

    I miss the days when my brains actually worked because at least back then one part of my body cooperated with me.

    I've been trying to improve my renders by dismantling various sets I have purchased over years and trying my hand at modifying dforce hair (or fur specifically), modifying textures, learning canvases in Daz and trying to figure out why everything is so slow and jerky in viewport (it's because of the fibermesh bodyhair) AND why dForce simulations take like 30 minutes and everything explodes or bends weirdly or just doesn't look good... while also trying to learn the dreaded postwork in Affinity Photo 2.

    I mean I've halfassed renders since 2005 when I purchased my first Daz product (michael 3.0) and have improved only marginally since then and now I'm finding I'm learning new things even slower. 

    It took me two weeks to learn how to use canvases and when I finally got there I can't wrap my head around how layers work in AP2. I mean I know how to add adjustment layers and pixel masks and what not but I don't know how they *actually* work. Levels? HSL?  Curves? LUT? Gradient Maps? Layer ordering? Blend modes? I've read and watched multiple videos that explain among other things what "rasterize", "rasterize & trim", and "rasterize to mask" mean and I still don't know what the hell it is good for. All sorcery to me because all the info just slips from my mind the moment video ends.

    I have spent as much time trying to figure out texturing and I can't still wrap my head around UV maps as they make absolutely zero sense to me. How the hell you guys can figure out which parts of the maps actually connect to other parts and work over edges? How do you keep stuff bleeding over when trying to paint something there? I wish DS provided tools to just paint on models themselves. 

    I also realized I hate too much realism in renders because either my eyes are failing on me or everything in real life is way bland, blah and not nearly colorful or bright enough. I want movie aesthetics or even something moderately realistic like this stuff. Vibrant and fantastic but with realistic models! I'd be happiest if I could actually paint or draw but not gonna happen with my shaky hands. I wen't through ShibaShake's tutorials but I still can't get any characters to pop from background. It's super frustrating. Even when I manage to render something decent it feels very static as I don't know how to apply effects that depict motion (and I don't mean animation, I mean stuff like motion blur or lines).

    I can't also wrap my head around how to create proper rim lighting. Spotlights don't seem to illuminate anything even if I crank up the luminous flux to 50k unless I crank the intensity to thousands. Mesh lights with emissive surfaces create very soft shadows and converting spotlights to mesh lights doesn't seem to do nothing. I created and tweaked various lighting sets from regular 3-point setup to actual emitting torus and nothing looks good! I can't even figure out why Danaides (IR version) renders pretty much fully black - and it doesn't even use ghost lights (opacity is 1 and the emissives are set to kcd/m^2 yet the scene is almost black). 

    I have spent three weeks tinkering with a single scene, spending every free hour rendering, tweaking, rendering, tweaking, rendering... then taking it to AP2 for tweaking only for the end result to be complete shite. Then back to reading and watching tutorials, back to the scene, more tweaking AND NOTHING WORKS! I'm down the rabbit hole of tweaking lights, scene, even character's physique (G8M) because some poses bend and deform any beefier character in very offputting way. Add the hair (fur) poking through clothing, dforce simulations fails, viewport stutters, the fact that the scene and the characters don't come together properly, the fact I can't wrap my head around push modifier, weight maps and mesh grabber in addition to everything else and... everything is so frikken frustrating that I just want to cry! angry

    The worst part is the brain rot... it shouldn't be this tough to learn all this stuff. I'd love to blame my aphantasia but there are great artists who share the same handicap so I think I'm just utterly stupid and unimaginative... doesn't help that as of late that's the feeling I'm getting at work, too. You know, that everyone is so much smarter than me and learning all the new stuff much faster than me. This was never this big of a problem in the past! It just sort of makes me lose interest in life and everything in general.

    Welp... time to try sleep on all this so I won't be a zombie tomorrow at work.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,047

    Just bought a bottle of drain cleaner, and the instructions tell you to pour 1/5 of the bottle into the drain. That's an awfully specific amount to eyeball through an opaque bottle while you're pouring.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited March 2023

    LeatherGryphon said:

    I'm still a little concerned that I might rent a modern car that listens to what I'm saying, and if some momentarily frightening situation transpires, the car might drive me to the nearest Fuddruckers.frown

    Fuddruckers is still in business?...(Looked it up, and apparently it is)... They closed all the ones that I knew about anywhere near me... So I assumed they went the way of other fast food chains like Roy Rodgers and Ruby Tuesday... that was a great place to go after Action Park or the beach to get a huge burger and load it up with everything in the fixings station... Before me and my wife got married, we used to go there after a movie... that she still married me after seeing me eat like a starving alligator is amazing.

    Hey, if that recliner gives you reclining problems, you could strap a one inch diameter wood rod to the handle with radiator hose clamps like my friend's uncle did after he had some kind of surgery... and if you stick a doll's head on the end of the rod, people will be too concerned about that to pay attention to the cheesy upgrade... and yes, my friend's uncle did have a doll's head on the handle... worse yet it was a clown doll's head (think 50s nightmare clown doll from the ninth plane of hell), but at this point those same clown dolls are too vintage/antique/costly to go ripping the heads off.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited March 2023

    ...out here in Portland, all the WalMarts are closing down next month.

    I've only been to the one out on SE 82nd St. one once and that was one time too many.  

    There was a Fuddruckers here in one of the suburban shopping centres but it was a victim of the pandemic as were a number businesses here including several "iconic" Portland ones.

    We've even had a number of Starbucks close, includng one in my neioghbourhood. 

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,200
    edited March 2023

    a year today since Lynx suddenly crossed the Rainbow Bridge

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,504
    edited March 2023

    kyoto kid said:

    ...out here in Portland, all the WalMarts are closing down next month.

    I've only been to the one out on SE 82nd St. one once and that was one time too many.  

    There was a Fuddruckers here in one of the suburban shopping centres but it was a victim of the pandemic as were a number businesses here including several "iconic" Portland ones.

    We've even had a number of Starbucks close, includng one in my neioghbourhood. 

    If my local Wal-Mart closed, our city would blow away.surprise  The only thing left in the main shopping area of the city would be an Ollies(overstock store), and a BigLots(overstock store), and a floundering JC-Penney(middle class department store).   If they took the roof off the mall they could land small planes down the main aisle without fear of chopping shoppers.frown

    Yeah, yeah, there's a couple of franchise eateries left, off mall property (eg: Wendy'sindecision​, Olive Gardensmiley, Red Lobsteryes, & Arby's(*gag me with a spoon*), because you need somewhere to eat after hunting for an open store.indecision

    At least "Ollies" motto is trying to be honest.  "Good stuff cheap".(*rolling eyes*)

    Our mall has been dying for so long that I can't remember the names of all the dead anchor stores.  Um..., Sears, was one, JCPenny is another (still alive but not for long), there was a third but it's long gone and its name evaporated from my brain.

    One thing our mall still has is a "Five Guys" burger restaurant.  It's where the big people go to get fat injections.  Soppy greasy fries, oversized, juicy deadly burgers.  All they need now is soggy donuts, mugs of warm lard and bigger doors.indecision

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  • beregarberegar Posts: 269

    kyoto kid said:

    ...out here in Portland, all the WalMarts are closing down next month.

    Doesn't Portland have like half a million people? How come they are closing?

    LeatherGryphon said:

    If my local Wal-Mart closed, our city would blow away.surprise  The only thing left in the main shopping area of the city would be an Ollies(overstock store), and a BigLots(overstock store), and a floundering JC-Penney(middle class department store).   If they took the roof off the mall they could land small planes down the main aisle without fear of chopping shoppers.frown

    What's an overstock store?

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    a year today since Lynx suddenly crossed the Rainbow Bridge

     

    Lighting a virtual candle.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,504
    edited March 2023

    Overstock store:  Although there is apparently a store actually named "Overstock.com" the term "an overstock store" is generic and describes a retailer selling various brand-name goods at discount prices because they are either discontinued, slightly damaged, or the maker's warehouses need to be emptied for whatever reason (i.e. they are "overstocked").

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  • ZyloxZylox Posts: 787

    beregar said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...out here in Portland, all the WalMarts are closing down next month.

    Doesn't Portland have like half a million people? How come they are closing?

     

    Accordinbg to articles I have read, it is because those stores are not as profitable as Walmart would like. It is partly due to a very large amount of shoplifting. Portland police are trying to crack down on it, but for the Walmart stores it's too little, too late. Walmart has been closing less profitable stores across the country recently. I am just glad that the Eugene-Springfield stores aren't closing.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited March 2023

    beregar said:

    What's an overstock store?

    Technically they are supposed to be stores that buy manufacturer "overstock"... like when say a manufacturer expects to sell one million units and instead they can only sell 800,000 units to stores or vendors... that leftover merchandise is considered "overstock"... many of these kind of stores would have the word "lots" in their name, in reference to them purchasing bulk "lots" of merchandise.

    Some of these kind of stores also claim to be "Liquidators" in that they specialize or also sell merchandise from stores that went out of business.

    Traditionally these types of stores represented huge savings to customers by selling brand name items at huge discounts.

    But over time people stopped knowing what "a good price" was and just accepted the price without checking that these kind of stores were in fact giving the kind of discounts they were known for or claimed... and now the majority of these type of stores only sell a very small percentage of liquidated, overstocked or brand name merchandise at any actual discount (in some cases I've actually seen them charge more than big retailers for things like brand name tools)... instead they rely on cheap bulk merchandise from overseas for the majority of their merchandise... usually if you find a similar item in Walmart, it's about the same price.

    I used to search out these kind of stores for tools, equipment and electronics... I've experienced savings of 75%-85% and in some rare instances bought items that were out of the box for pennies on the dollar.

    Those days are long past... even when these stores do purchase liquidated or overstocked goods the prices are pretty much the same as any other store.

    Recently I found a Vick's warm mist humidifier special labeled for Babies-R-Us... not only was it $15 more than a brand new one of similar design at Target, according to the expiration date on a mail in offer on the box, it was at least ten years old, plus the box was mushy and deformed... you see stuff like that all the time too.

    Although the king of unrealistic expectations has to be Walmart's Clearance section... the now defunct consumer website "Consumerist" used to have an ongoing section featuring insanely overpriced or unusable clearance items... Here's an example https://consumerist.com/tag/raiders-of-the-lost-walmart/

    Nowadays it's extremely rare to find stores that even sell "recovered" goods... stuff damaged or left in shabby looking state by a fire, flood or delivery accident... that stuff used to be sold to liquidators, now it's sent directly to the dumps.

    Most of the big box retailers and big online stores like Amazon send the vast majority of stuff that gets returned to the dumps.

    Waste more, want more... the newer take on that old adage about "wasting not".

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  • beregarberegar Posts: 269

    Thanks for the explanation for overstock store. We call them outlets here (or just ylijäämäkauppa).

     

    Zylox said:

    beregar said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...out here in Portland, all the WalMarts are closing down next month.

    Doesn't Portland have like half a million people? How come they are closing?

     

    Accordinbg to articles I have read, it is because those stores are not as profitable as Walmart would like. It is partly due to a very large amount of shoplifting. Portland police are trying to crack down on it, but for the Walmart stores it's too little, too late. Walmart has been closing less profitable stores across the country recently. I am just glad that the Eugene-Springfield stores aren't closing.

    Ahh, that's too bad. I guess there has to be a lot of theft going if a big company like Walmart thinks it's not profitable? I was just a bit surprised because our capital has about the same amount of people as Portland and it's by far the largest city in my country (though the capital region which is basically formed by conjoined three largest cities is about 1,5 million). Still a lot of companies run profitable stores even in smaller places i.e. my town has around 26000 inhabitants and it still has stores from two local big chains as well as lidl, tokmanni etc... though I guess it's largely because of the nearby Russian border which has been obviously rather quiet as of late.

    Eh... rambling here..

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024
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    beregar said:

    Still a lot of companies run profitable stores even in smaller places i.e. my town has around 26000 inhabitants and it still has stores from two local big chains as well as lidl, tokmanni etc... though I guess it's largely because of the nearby Russian border which has been obviously rather quiet as of late.

    We are as far from the Russian border as we can get here on the left coast and about the same size town, we too have all those stores and then some, so it's not the border.

    Although one doesn't find 2-3 grocery stores, hardware store, 3 different banks, pharmacy, library, gas station and a dairy in every village with 2000 inhabitants any more, like it used to be in the 60's and 70's frown

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