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Based on fully reading the last 10 pages, my guess is that those characters don't use the proper naming convention for the head and body morphs, so that the tool is having to "guess" where the head and body morphs are separated based on a predefined range of where they should likely be separated. To partially check that you could go to the gen 8 morphs in question. Go to shaping tab, morph, click parameters, and look at the contents of the "Name" field. The names should start with FHM or FBM. FHM is for head and FBM is for body. It does not matter what is in the Label Field. It was said that you might be able to fix the conversion results by fixing the contents of the "Name" field on the messed up morphs to match the proper naming convention.
Okay, I love the way the converter creates the new Gen 9 clone of the Gen 8 figure.
I had a problem with Roy's texture would not load onto the Body suit. I got a character error.
But i just loaded Roy and copied his surface material and pasted it to the body suit and fixed.
So, I feel like every conceivable issue I have had has been addressed, except for two.
The top eyelash which has not been a huge deal because Gen 9 has great eyelashes and textures.
The only lingering problem is eye size.
It seems there should be a script to fit the eye into the sockets of a morphed figure.
But it is not a big problem doing it manually.
The issue is I need to resize the eye 25 to 50% above the 100% to get it to fit and this leaves me with a large eye image map.
How do I make the image smaller other than going into photoshop and doing that manually.
If Photoshop is the only answer, then I would request a script to auto fit the eyes and a script to give us a slider for eye map size.
And offset and tiling does not work.
Hmmm. You are right. When I first looked at your pic, I was thinking the eyes were the same size but the left eye was in the wrong place. But looking at it again, I can definitely see it is a scale change. That is weird and I have no idea why.
Thanks for helping @necroscension! The update for looking for head/body should be out this week.
Yes, they are the same.
The Custom Character script does add the material suit.
I don't know where that is. I didn't know she had done so.
I would look to see what morph is distorting the feet. If every other morph is dialed out and it is only its body morph messing up the feet, then I don't see how to get good results for Storybook Frog. When you are doing a converion with the eye dialog, make very sure to delete the "wrong" converted eye morphs as well as the body morphs before trying again. Applying the eye dialog again when there is already a bad eye morph just makes things worse.
As along as each Oso/Quick/etc look is from one body morph, I would think the results can be good. However, CC does not convert JCMs so if the character requires a lot of them to fix problems when posing, it might not be worth it.
Thanks for helping @XiousDs! The fix for looking for head/body is in Daz's hands.
I am not sure I understand. The eye dialog scales and moves the eyes if you need it. (This is one of the things that make converting to G9 a PITA. The eyes have a separate morph, named the same, to make them fit within the G9 head) This should not affect the surface at all.
Thought id try a few male figure
no luck at all
fwsa Ryker no textures
Denton no textures
Bjarke no textures
Ashwyn is a horse no textures no back legs
Supreme Intelegence HD no textures
Ork HD no textures
there seems to be no rssy way of applying textures
have the rssy eye, rssy eyelash and rssy mouth only ?
looks like you can apply gen 9 textures to it though
Just as a note. When I try to convert StorybookFrog, I also end up with the baboon eyes showing up as a converted morph. One of the other folks mentioned a character showing that it used Baboon eyes morph, so I thought it would be relavent to let you know that I also see that occurring.
I am not certain what I am missing here. In the manual it shows the Eye Placement dialog screen up when the converted character shape is up. But when I run it on Storybookfrog, it is trying to have me adjust the eye placements and size before the StorybookFrog shows up. Not certain how to properly position the eyes when the shape is not loaded yet. So not certain if I am doing something wrong.
NOTE: I tried attaching and pasting an image to this to show exactly what I am talking about, but Daz forums site does not want to let me do that right now.
I got everything shaped properly and fixed a weird eye issue on the left eye being small, but none of the shoes for G9 seem to fit with the G8 suit on. Has anyone had this happen? What do I need to do to get them to fit on the converted figure?
This is the "Currently Used" morphs after deleting all previously created gen 9 morphs for Storybook Frog, and running the gen 8 to 9 character script again. The first time I tried using the tool the conversion had the Baboon eyes as part of the morph. This time it still exists, BUT the story book frog also now gets a navel morph that it was not getting before. ROFL The feet were still highly distorted after I dialed down to 0 all other morphs except "Storybook Frog". The toe next to the big toe of Storybook Frog is supposed to be the longest. After morphing it is still the longest but it is also VERY pointy with all of the other toes distorted and stretched at the angles and coming to point meeting the long pointy toe.
I also ran the eye tool, but kept the default settings just clicking OK without making any changes. The eyes were closish to the right place which would need to be fixed by actually dialing in the appropriate adjustment during the tool; however, I noticed that the character's left eye is considerably smaller then the character's right eye. The left eye could be manually scaled, but I don't know why it did this and wanted to confirm seeing a similar occurance as one of the other folks who posted about different size eyes after converting.
NOTE: Won't let me attach or post an image again. The morphs that initially showed as currently used were as stated below:
BaboonG8M-IrisSize: 100%
SBFrog Frog Eyes: 100%
Mouth Realism: 100%
Storybook Frog Character Preset: 100%
Storybook Frog: 100%
Navel HD: 100%
Navel HD does not seem to distort the figure at all.
Baboon iris and frog eyes both change the size of the head.
BaboonG8M-IrisSize is really weird because I have the model, however, when looking at currently used morphs on default Storybook Frog, it does not show up. So I don't understand why it is getting referenced and pulled into the morph.
I think we need to try converting one male character and post the log. I will see what keeps it from applying textures. Thanks.
Ok, I got Storybook Frog and tried it. I see what you mean by the feet. I think JoeQuick made this morph too extreme to transfer correctly.
As far as the eye placement. There is only one WHOLE body morph for Storybook Frog. The Eye dialog is coming up for a different morph (phmFrogEyes2b). The script only turns on the morph that it wants to place the eye for, which is NOT the Storybook Frog so it will not work.
I got tired of this stupid morph giving me support nightmares so the next update will screen baboon eyes iris out.
I am not seeing this issue. You load the shoes on the figure, not the suit, correct? Which shoes cause problems? Can you post an image?
Submitted an update of the update (for CC) this morning:
I noticed a bug that crept in on the G8M material suits. The name for the G8 (not G8.1) Male Body suit is "RSSY Genesis 8 Male Suit.duf" The script is looking for "RSSY Genesis 8 Male Body Suit.duf" as that is the convention for "RSSY Genesis 8 Female Body Suit", "RSSY Genesis 8.1 Female Body Suit", and ""RSSY Genesis 8.1 Male Body Suit". We will submit a patch, in the meantime you should rename the body suit so that the CC script can find it.
Thanks a lot for the update - much appreciated. Will wait for it to appear in DIM.
Just want to say you are doing a great job. I am sure this is very frustrating, but I am sure all of us greatly appreciate. Thank you.
Hi
Cleared out Daz Studio log file
Then converted denton log file attached
I admit I don't know much about PA interaction etiquette, but it shouldn't be your job to handle the mistakes of another PA.
Regardless, since this is relevant; Anyone who has Chimera from Joe Quick should check their G8-1 is not accidentally triggering a Chimera mouth morph when G81male's mouth is opened wide.
For every figure that I have converted (except for Michael 8.1) the eyes are considerably smaller than the eye socket.
I have to manually resize the eyeballs and move them outward from the nose.
When they get resized, it makes the eye texture on the eyeballs get bigger also.
The eyes come in at 100% size (generally) and I have to resize them anywhere from 125% to even 140% so there are no spaces on each side between the eye and the socket.
When I resize the eyeballs The texture on the eyeballs gets larger as well.
The texture is then too big to look realistic in most cases.
I cannot find eye morphs for the eyes either.
Did you look over the Character Converter G9 User Manual? On page 4, the 4th bullet is "Eye Dialog".
On the Character Converter tool, you have a tab section called Convert. It is the first tab. On that tab, you have a Character Files section. That is the section which shows which files you are trying to convert. In that section there are 4 columns. The first is "Type", the second is "Filename", and the third is "Eye Dialog". To enable the Eye Dialog section of conversion you must double click on the cell empty space intersecting between character row in question and the "Eye Dialog" column. It does not show up like a check box. It is just an empty space. When you double click it, an "X" will appear in the empty space of the "Eye Dialog" column showing you the option is enabled. When you double click it again, the "X" will be removed disabling the option and leaving the space empty again.
A weird thing with the Baboon for G8M. I loaded it into an empty scene, went to parameters, and clicked on all. The BaboonG8M-IrisSize shows up at 100%. When you reduce it to 0% it increases the size of the Iris on the character, so the morph shrinks the Iris when applied. On G8M Baboon it is applied at 100% by default. So I expected when I went to "Currently Used" it would show up as one of the currently used morphs, but it does not show up.
Baboon 8 shows ups at 100%.
In addition, eyelashes Curl, Eyelashes Length Lower, Eyelashes Length Upper, torsoNewCurves4, BeardCurves, maneBack, and ManeFrontCurves all show up at 100% on the Baboon, in currently used, but the Iris morph does not show up at all, even though it is being used. I don't understand that. I thought if a morphs was applied in any form, then it should show up in currently used. Not certain if this is has something to do with why this morph seems to be causing problems with Gen 9 conversions.
I am going to test removing baboon for now to see if that has any positive affect on running the converter.
Update: I uninstalled Baboon, and deleted the eye and character morphs so that when I tried to find the morphs they did not show up. I could not find any file for them also where they had been located on my harddrive. I ran a test conversion again, and the storybook frog still showed up with Baboon iris. I looked again and could not find any files for it. I decided to try restarting DAZ. After doing so, but after I redeleted the newly created morphs, it proceeded to create the base morph but without creating the Baboon Iris morph. Baboon did not create any major distortion that I can tell other than slight head size change. However, I wanted others who might read this that they likely need to restart daz after whacking an offending morph or somehow it still may be stuck in memory for the script, Daz Studio, or something like that.
That was very helpful XiousDs while I have been trying to fix this, I found that out about the adding the x to add the eye dialogue box while perusing the manual again.
I am trying that to see if the eye textures are sized correctly now. The eye dialogue box is great!
Thank you very much for your help, that was very kind.
No problem. I figure while I am trying to resolve my own issues, if in some way, I can help others who have issues in the same thread, than that might slightly reduce the burden on RS and SY, then it ends up as a possible WIN/WIN for everyone. Have a great day. :)
Possible issue...
I'm noticing, at least with the males, that if the character preset does not name the model in the Scene tab (figure is named the default ["Genesis 8 Male" or "Genesis 8.1 Male"] instead of the character name,[such as "Roy for G8M"]), the resulting controller made is named either "Unknown Genesis 8 Male" or "Male 8_1". The model that loads however will have the converted model's name. The issue becomes that if another character is converted that wasn't named in the scene tab, the new controller overwrites the previous controller so that all converted models using that controller load as the last converted character for that model (G8M or G8.1M).
At some point the character is being "re-named" for the Scene tab. Can this name update the default name used for building the controller?
Another little bit of info. I find that mesh grabber seems to work fine on gen 9, but after running a conversion on one character to another character, mesh grabber is all messed up when using it on the newly converted character. Example, selecting G8M Storybook Frog can be selected fine with mesh grabber. Gen 9 figure can have surfaces selected fine as well. After attempting to run a conversion on story book frog, the surface acts super weird so that if you try selecting an edge or vertice on the right leg, it might select a section on the left leg. If you try selecting a spot on the head, it might select a spot on his lower stomache.
Story book frog has a weird bone structure in the feet? Can weird rigging/bone placement potentially negatively affect how the mesh gets pulled about on the feed?
As complexity test on Storybook Frog for the conversion tool, I tried first running decimator to reduce it to 50%. This still resulted in a pretty good shape, but appeared to reduce some of the complexity in the toes shape especially around the nails. I then saved the character as a preset to my custom folder. I then ran the tool against the exported/decimated 50% decimated figure. Most everything was good except still massive spikey pancake feet. So reducing the vertice count of the model does not seem to work for the feet.
I can't get the search to work in the character converter or the clothing converter.
I type in the word "boots" or "viking" and sometimes it takes me to v's I would think it would search the file names and narrow down the options listed with that word in the file name.
I have nearly 10,000 Daz assets. and not being able to search for a keyword and refine the items listed is very difficult.
You're welcome! Thanks for the support.