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The "Save" button saves the configuration of the script. When a conversion occurs, a morph file is created whether you save or not.
Yeah, case sensitivity matters
I assume the directory is in your Content Manager folders?
I assume the Miley skin is a hierarchical map, and you selected the preset and then executed the Material Suit Apply G8-G9 Hierarchical Material from the favorites menu as per the manual? Please post the log.
That does not look like you used the Material Suit Apply G8-G9 Hiearchical Map script. Please use according to the manual.
The G8F Miley head morph affects only the head, as one would expect. Only following G9 conversion does it impact the whole of G9.
I followed the manual to the letter:
1. Loaded the G9 Dev load
2. Selected the G9 Dev load and then ran the script entitled "Material Suit Add G8F Material Suit" from the Scripts/RiversoftArt folder.
3. With Genesis 9 still selected, applied Victoria 8 all maps material (which you probably do have, given it's listed in the manual).
Result: no textures - see attachment.
(Clearly something is very wrong here. Incidentally, I should mentioned that just to be sure, before running the above test, I closed studio, un-installed and reinstalled G8F material suit product using DIM and restarted Studio).
I should also note that this is a new mac running M2 Max chipset.
Ok, figured it out. It WAS MY MISTAKE! My eye had skipped over the bit in the manual which says you have to select the hierarchical material (in this case Victoria 8 all maps) and then then NOT DOUBLE CLICK to load but select the script 'apply materials' which by default is in added in my 'Favourites' menu. It now works: shown in the attached.
Onto the next issue, which is why the character converter is complaining about missing files... when they are present in the folder it specifies.
Apologies for missing this, Riversoft.
Yes, they are. Still getting this issue, just complains it cannot find these files. Given that I now have the material skin working with Victoria 8 correctly (apologies for misunderstanding this initially) it's odd that this doesn't also work with the character converter - clearly the required files are present.
I didn't - mistook the apply for the add script. I now have that working.
The conversions are still behaving very strangely. I've tried this again with Victoria 8 as a more 'standard' product. In this case, however, the Victoria head morph works as expected on G9, only impacting the head, but the body morph and the Victoria 8 HD Details morph appear to interact badly - the HD morph does little at base resolution on Victoria 8, but on the converted character, it impacts the body, interfering with the Victoria 8 morph (second attachment - Victoria 8 alongside Victoria 9, both with HD details and body dialled up). This is different to the MSO Miley case, but similar in that parameter morphs are apparently being linked or replicated in ways that are different to the originating model. Is this me making mistakes again?
Same problem here. I first tried to convert a customized character morph created by me based on Leanne 8.1. but with many other morphs mixed in - catastrophic result (picture attached...). Then I tried the original Leanne and Leanne HD - the result ist "wrinkled", to use the nice word
,too. Unfortunately, the "offending morphs" are the converted Leanne head and Leanne body morphs - if I dial them out I get the G9 base figure.
There are some other problems in the scripts which make it impossible to let them work automatically - there comes a pop-up after the "zero figure" command I have to answer (it askes me whether I want to zero or to restore...), then there a the "duplicate formulas found" warnings I have to quit (anybody out there without any "duplicate formulas"?
) ; and a pop-up after a "zero shape" command. But I guess it will be possible to override the popups and warnings - and it would not be a big issue for me, if the result would be ok.
But that's not the case, at the moment I must say: The product is just not working for me.
Honestly, I would have be very surprised if it would have worked just out of the box - I manually converted already some G8 characters to G9 following the Sickleyield method and know it is tricky. And the results are far away from perfect - loss of HD morphs and details, distorsions in some body parts (armpits) etc.
I will wait some time for improvements - never give up hope
... Or in the worst case, ask for a refund.
Is there an option in the material conversion to remove the painted eyebrows from Genesis 8 skin textures?
I do have the same issues with finding the files (same character). But the moirphs (starting from the Miley 8.1 figure) look fine. I have also tried with MSO Lacey 8.1, Noska 8.1, Krashwerks Lilly, LY Reagan for G8. The file not found error messages remains and no material whatsoever is applied, but the figure shapes look fine.
Using the material scripts from the bundle, the materials can be applied well, although I have not figured out yet how to change the eye colour.
Do you have any "Duplicate morph" message in the log? I have only a very select set of G8 and 8.1 characters in my library. The ones I am not currently working with ar disabled via TurboLoader. If I am enabling all my G8 and 8.1 characters, I do get duplicate formulas errors - and weird results after conversion
New experiences
Second trouble I met : Genesis 9 and Genesis 9 dev load must be in the installation folders (People/Genesis 9/...) or nothing is converted. May be a pop up to specify personal path would be good ?
Character morphs appears in the Parameter tab. Would it be possible to have them also in the Shaping tab ?
I have a systematic DS4 crash after leaving Character converter with a successful converting. No info in the log (here is an extract) and don't know where to look
2023-05-20 17:41:49.874 [INFO] :: Cannot find assets for old preset /- People/Genesis 8 Female/Characters/CHA- Daz/!Black/Celani 8/Celani 8.duf
2023-05-20 17:41:49.875 [DEBUG] :: END Conversion of M:/!Librairie DazStudio4/Content/- People/Genesis 8 Female/Characters/CHA- Daz/!Black/Celani 8/Celani 8.duf
2023-05-20 17:41:49.877 [DEBUG] :: Execution Complete.
2023-05-20 17:42:32.096 +++++++++++++++ DAZ Studio 4.21.0.5 starting +++++++++++++++++
No, there are no dupliucate morph errors in the log file.
I've spent the afternoon running about 6 or 8 character conversions. I've switched off the automatic material suit load, as this doesn't work for some reason, perhaps to do with the missing file errors.
The common factor with all the errors I am seeing is that head and body morphs are getting linked incorrectly to character morphs. So for example, dialling in the character morph should also dial in the body and head morphs, in many cases. But this is getting screwed up somehow, but differently for different characters, so for some, dialling in the character also dials in the head, but the body morph never got created, despite the original character being there - in that case, the character morph dials in the body somehow, but not via a separate body morph. In cases where the script has created all three morphs, apparently correctly, dialling the character morph in dials in the head and body, but as the character morph also seems to impact the whole body as well, you get two body morphs loaded, with extreme distortion. Many (but not all) of the cases like this I have been able to fix by dialling the character morph to zero, and then manually dialling up the body and head morphs seperately to 100%. In one case though, it didn't create a body morph at all. Dialling the character morph to 50% got the character approximately to where it should be with no distortion. This is all redolent of some sort of bug, frankly - there is no issue with the original characters who are from a range of vendors and the problem includes Victoria 8. I do have a large library of 8 and 8.1 characters. Although I have turbo loader, I don't use it much.
Attached for example is a Genesis 9 base figure with just one morph dial turned to 100% - Victoria 8 HD, under Actor/People. This has automatically dialled in a whole load of other morphs which screw things up on G9, but not on G8. (second attachment). But if you manually dial out the HD body and head, it starts to look ok. These do not operate this way on the original G8 figure. (attachment 3). So all in all, apart from the material copy which refuses to find files which are present, this can be made to work with some effort, it's just not very easy or pretty. I believe these 'automatic' linkages are called ERCs? It is some bug in the way the script treats these ERCs which appears to be causing the issue, IMHO (not an expert, but 40 years as a programmer you do get hunches).
Sure, it only reports missing files when doing a material suit setup from the conversion. It appears to do this with all mouth and eye related suit parts. As for the actual morph conversion, as far as I can gather, you are not having the same issues as me, even on the same characters? Are you running Mac or Windows? I'm on macos, latest.
And lo, Riversoft and Sickleyield said unto us "So let it be coded, so let it be purchased."
Insta-purchase! Thanks, Riversoft and Sickleyield!
To be clear, I've not having material setup problems if I do these independently of the character version - it works fine, though I may stick to the Cayman Studios variant, I guess, which seems easier and more flexible.
Christian using Ivar 9's skin (and HD) for now. Not sure I wanna convert Christian's skin, since it looks so "plastic". He looks a bit younger, but oh well. Ivar's will do ;)
With my OCD, it bothers me that nipple placement is different between 8 and 9, and on the males can be very obvious. I know it's not the product's fault, and it happens with the other transfer products, and not all male characters are rendered shirtless/showing chest, but sometimes the nipple placement on 8 to 9 can be too low or off to the side(thanks Daz, your clones are the cause of this!). It puts me on the fence buying the product because of it (and this is an issue with the other transfer products).
With previous products I had tried alter the default clone made in the temp folder, but after seeing no effect and then learning that the Daz clone was used for actual transfer, I gave up.
Not a problem! Glad you figured it out.
HD morphs cannot be converted (limitation of DS). I would not even convert the HD character and just do the regular V8.
Sorry it is not working... yet. There should not be a pop up about zero figure or duplicate formulas.
Recommendation: until you get a hang of it, I would delete the converted morphs in My Library\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 9\Base\Morphs after a conversion and try the next one. Experiment and learn. When morphs start combining there can be weird issues. Don't convert the same character twice without deleting until you understand for sure it will work.
I know this is painful, but this conversion script was the most painful one to write ever. Because of the changes in G9, the conversion process had to be a specific way which unfortunately is unforgiving of errors.
Please do. I only want happy customers
You're welcome! I hope you love it!
I have those. I don't like them as much as you cannot apply hierarchical materials. Too painful to do each section one by one.
Great! Thank you for posting a successful transfer
I can understand that. The conversion will not be perfect.
Question: Why is it that if the only thing that is being morphed on Genesis 8 Female, the body of Genesis 9 ends up with a Genesis 8 Female body? I'm only wanting to transfer the head morph but keep the Genesis 9 body.
Hello. I tried the program, but the first result is pure horror. Zsazsa has become an emaciated freak. It's a shame, because the whole package isn't exactly cheap.
Just in case it helps someone else, I've been having more luck with "Zero" rather than "restore". I tried restore first and didn't get great results, but Zero works better. Not for all morphs though. Some just don't transfer well. Baku looked pretty awful. I'm not wholly upset though...when I want to use him, I'll just use the G8.1 character. I mostly bought this in order to get more morphing capabilities into G9.
Could you not use the coversion tool for of gen3 to gen 8 then convert that result to gen9?
On the product page can you add "Your new software, including instructions, is in the main scripts folder under 'RiverSoft Art'"