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Does this mean that I can't use the converted morphs in a mix-and-match way because right now it seems if I convert a character composed of multiple body and head morphs, the result is that the G8M clone is baked into every converted morph and applied multiple times to G9 which messes up the results. For custom characters, I would need to combine all the morphs into a single character morph by exporting as obj and reimporting for it to work properly? Can't we instead just have a link to the G8M clone that is included in G9 in the output morphs?
Ok, I've been using this for a couple days and I have one criticisim: after conversion, the converted figure has markedly exaggerated and slanted brows. I've been able to minimize this with a morph, but it's something that I DON'T get when transferring a character manually. Just thought I might mention it ;) I must also mention that a manually converted character looks MUCH better, though albeit a LOT more work. LOL
Laurie
I bought the Material Suit for G8M in the hope to be able to use some textures of G8M on G9, but everytime I try to make something with the male genitals, DAZ Studio crashes. I asked Sickle at DeviantArt for a step by step description how to and got following anser:
Set a custom action for your hierarchical mat script. There is a button in the scripts folder that does it for you.
Load your g9.
Load on a material suit preset with genitals on it. These are in People, not Scripts.
Select g9 or the full body suit.Navigate to the hierarchical material preset you want to use.
Select it in Smart Content or Content Library so it is highlighted.Go to the Scripts option above your top bar and click the custom action for hierarchical materials.It should apply the h. Mat to both g9 material suit snd the genitals conformed to the suit.
I did as suggested, I loaded the DEV Load G9, the Material Suit applied, the Material applied, but as soon as I touched G9 to change the shape, DAZ Studio closed, without a warning, it simply shut down, disappeared. Both, the public and the beta version. I am totally confused, why all the scripts, why all the suits as wearables and why there is no clear explanation in the PDFs how to? It works without genitals, but not with.
Are there any experiences or any tips what I did wrong?
My adoption of Genesis 9 has been limited by the inability to bring characters I have developed (many back to V4) into G9. This product has the tools to do just that!
I was, however, disappointed with my first result. Naturally, I chose my favorite character to try first!I Included here a screenshot of the G8 and G9 (G8 left, G9 right). Clearly, the G9 face is distorted - especially the lips. Is there something I am doing wrong, or is this just the best I can expect? Also. the eyelashes are not textured. I tried to apply a material file, but nothing worked.
I feel this script needs a bit more work. I've been using Riversoft and Sickleyield's converters for a good while now and only had minor issues with extreme shapes. But for whatever reason, this script bugs out more often than not and in ways that the other scripts don't. Why I bring this up, is due to the non-script converting method giving better results.
I've attached image examples. Please note I'm NOT returning this product, I know it can grow and evolve. I just want to be frank about things.
In both cases, Oso Bear Hands was the ONLY morph used.
No, I recommend dialing out all current morphs and then dialing them in one by one as there may be more than one problem morph.
Ok, both logs show that the script did not figure out if they were head or body morphs:
2023-05-22 14:47:47.045 [DEBUG] :: Head Morphs:
2023-05-22 14:47:47.045 [DEBUG] :: Body Morphs:
2023-05-22 14:47:47.045 [DEBUG] :: Other Morphs: BABI HEAD,BABI BODY
Neither name of the morph starts with FHM or FBM, they start with BABI. The *name* must start with FHM.
Thanks for sharing!
That is frustrating. It is a simple function. Macs make my life difficult
Is that directory also where the conversion scripts are or did you move them? Should the path have a /Users or Users?
Sorry you had so much trouble. In the options for the CC, there is an option for whether to create the character with mat suit or not. It is checked (use mat suit) by default.
Did you try selecting Ellithia 8 in the dialog and clicking Force Convert Item(s)? Could you post the Daz log for the execution?
You should be able to use some converted morphs in a mix-and-match way, but they do affect the whole body. I am not sure what you mean by a link to the clone. The G8M clone is provided by Daz in /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Daz 3D/Clones/CloneGenesis8Male.dsf
I haven't noticed any exaggerated or slanted brows. I wonder if the script is pulling something else in or your system to mess stuff up?
That is strange. I guess the first thing to figure out is if it is the Apply Hmap script or the mat suits themselves. If you add the mat suit with genitals and just try to change shape, any crashes? If you add the mat suit without genitals, apply Hmap, and THEN add genitals mat suit, any crashes?
Did you convert with mat suit? Is this a conversion of a conversion? Did the script correctly identify it is a head morph (FHM)?
This script was the hardest one I have ever done for DS. G9 changed too much from G8 and caused endless problems. What you are showing though is the transfer part, which is pure DS. I am confused why they should be so different.
BTW, in data/RiverSoft Art/Common/RSG8G9CharacterConstants.dsa, there is a variable:
// "LOAD CHARACTER", "MORPH LIST", "REMOVE EYEMORPHS", "SETUP CLONE", "TRANSFER MORPHS", "CONVERT MORPHS"
// "CONVERT MORPHS AND ERC FREEZE", "CHARACTER PROPERTY", "MORPHS SAVED", "MATERIALS COPIED"
var BREAK_POINT = "";
If you edit the file in a text editor and put one of the strings in BREAK_POINT, the script will stop during conversion, you can see what it did until that point. For example,
var BREAK_POINT = "SETUP CLONE";
The script will stop during conversion after setting up the clone. You could see what the script is doing and it might even help in a manual process.
Thank you for the reply, I assume the Hmat scrip works fine, also the Suit applies fine, but as soon as I touch G9 to change the shape, DAZ Studio crashes. When I apply the Suit without gens, all works fine, the Hmat applies,and I can change the shape of G9. Now only it is without gens - when I then try to add the G8 Anat Element Masc Suit, Studio crashes without warning and without any error message, it simply closes. It is frustrating. All gens versions don't work on my machine, the G8F/M with Masc Gens, the G8.1 F/M with Masc gens and also the single Masc gens suits. Funny that I seem to be th eonly one yet with that problem - odd with all the buyers!
I think he's talking about new G8 converted characters depending on your "Actor/Full Body/People/Feminine/Genesis 8 Female Body" that is a G8F clone, but with the same height as G9 :) We currently can't use directly official G8 clones for G9 because they don't have a correct rigging (even though we can do "Adjust Rigging to Shape..."), but yours is 100% functional.
If new converted characters were both depending on it, we'll be able to mix them because the morph would represent only the differences from G8F, so if we want to mix several G8F characters, we would have to enable "Genesis 8 Female Body" at 100% and all other characters at their respective proportions.
I've moved nothing. Everything remains where it was placed by DIM, using the automated install. Despite being a programmer for 40 years, I've done very little programming for macos, and none recently, but I believe it should be '/Users' - otherwise it would be a relative directory reference, not from the root. I do occasionally run into errors on mac that (apparently) don't exist on Windows. Usually I can get around these by renaming files, for example to capitalise a letter or two, but this appears more fundamental. A missing '/' would explain a lot.
Is the OS set to use case-sensitive names on that volume?
There have been a lot of issues that I and others have raised with this product over the last few days, which is a bit like googling 'Meile washing machine fault' - you are going to find something no matter how great the product. So I wanted to reset the balance a little. Is this product perfect? No, it has some quirks, particularly on macos, where file naming and references appears to be an issue and with ERC connected dials, which interact in odd ways not known on the original. But with a little care and persistance, you can get excellent results. Some suggestions: a) run the material stuff seperately, you'll have more control that way. b) Dial out the character morph, and dial in seperately the head and body morphs. These seem to interfere otherwise. c) avoid HD characters if you have the non-HD equivalent, or dial out the HD morphs following conversion. d) expect to do some manual fine tuning here and there on occasions. I'm enormously grateful to Sickleyield and Riversoft for this product and all there other wonderful products - they save me a fortune and allow me to convert custom characters across Genesis revisions (and indeed from V4). Thank you. Attached - custom characters built from a composite of several commercial products. Genesis 8.1 on left, 9 on right. I'm using Cayman Studio for the materials. I have had some successes with the material suit route, I'm parking that for now.
I don't recall which way around it is, but I know that it works differently in that regard to Windows. So file names that Windows will find correctly, macos will not. Changing the case on file names can fix that on occasions. Forgive my poor memory, this doesn't crop up very often, but I think it is generally due to file names in an app or script not matching the file name on disk in terms of case. In this particular case, however, the case matches exactly. Riversoft has noticed that the initial '/' is missing in the script, i.e. 'Users' instead of '/Users', which may be the cause of the error - obviously this would be specific to macos, as '/Users' doesn't exist on Windows. Not sure where the script picks it up from, or whether it is hard wired into the script.
Here are my mapped directories in Studio, in case that's of use.
So when I use this converter to convert a custom OC, it makes gen 9 explode. Anyone know what I am doing wrong?
First of all, there is no CharacterConstraints, there however IS Constants that has the right code.
CONVERT MORPHS is where the stuff starts looking awful, it first looks just fine, but then when I turn the morph on from the parameters it is messed up. It also randomly affects the whole body, something the manual conversion doesn't do.
Once more, I do not blame you for this, just reporting what I can.
Are the converted figures supposed to be classified as Sets not Actors?
If you have just started yourmac and went through the initial setup, you are running the file system in case INsensitive mode. This is the default out-of-the-box setup. And yes, the leading forward slash in the file path is essential. Like Windows, MacOS has a set of "virtual" file paths, like "Desktop", "Downloads", "Users",... that can be used as a shortcut. /Users will actaully refer to /Volumens/Macintosh HD/Users.
I have my Daz library on a network drive, and the path is also shown correctly, apart from the missing leading slash.
Okay, so. When we work on converters, we have to choose.
We can dial in the clone when we convert the morph, so that it looks just like it looked on G8. This is what we did.
OR we can copy the morph directly without using the import/export on the clone itself. We did not do this, because the result is that you would get the morph's effect versus G9 base, and it wouldn't look masc or fem as it did on G8F or G8M.
The result is that yes, each morph that is copied is being combined with the G8 head or body clone, so that it will look like it looked on G8.
Well, it didn't happen for us, and it didn't happen in testing in QA either (sorry to hear from me again, lol, Riversoft sent me an email because he's also stumped). Can you tell me what character you were converting so maybe I can try it? I'd really like to help if I can. Your great male products are part of what made me want to be a vendor in the first place!
What is your version of Daz Studio, also? We developed it on a very recent 4.21 build, but it was the public one, not a beta or anything like that.
I apologize on the other questions. Riversoft normally handles support threads because he is the one who writes the scripts in our collaborations, and a lot of questions/issues have to do with how the script works and is used.
It still really sounds like several of the non-mac-os questions relate directly to morphs not being named fbm or fhm (named, not labeled) and thus not identified by the script (causing crumpling/explosions). Renaming your OC morphs to have fbm in the name for body morphs or fhm in the name for head morphs in your Parameters tab can fix this.